Dig Site Bringing To Light Artifacts As Old As 7,000 Years (SW Pennsylvania)

Tribune Review ^ | 8-10-2003 | Mark Berton

[blam]

Beneath what is now Leetsdale Industrial Park, early industrialists made bricks in a sprawling complex begun in the 1850s. About 7,000 years earlier, on the same site, American Indians had a settlement on what was then the high area of an island in the Ohio River.

[blam]

I'm not 100% convinced that the Adena are Indians.

[blam]

Leetsdale Archaeology Dig

[farmfriend]

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[Little Bill]

However, the archaeological dig is not being preserved, sounds like Washington State. I think that if they dug a little deeper they might have found a bit more, habitation sites have a tendancy to be used over and over, natural pathways.

[BenLurkin]

I'd like on please.

[BenLurkin]

I'm not 100% convinced that the Adena are Indians.

If not, then what were they?

[blam]

"If not, then what were they?"

Not sure. There are no American Indian/Native American skeletons older than 6,000 years old ever found anywhere in the Americas? Maybe they were relatives of Kennewick Man?

There are many reports in the early settlement days of farmers finding tall robust skeletons...and skulls containing two rows of teeth, etc.

[yankeedame]

However, the archaeological dig is not being preserved, sounds like Washington State

I was thinking along the same line. Are the remains "American Aborgine", whose physique can be traced back to the Oriental stock? Or are the remains those of "Kennawa Man" type, whose ancestry can be traced back to (northern) European stock?

Or, (sigh)in the name of PC, are all remains now simpily lumped together a "native American"?

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

"A lot of stuff has been obliterated by construction of the city," she said. "But there still is the possibility of finding intact a site like Leetsdale."

When the Indians set up a society next to the river and bury the stuff their anxestors dropped it's just an historical discovery waiting to be found.

When a white man builds a civilization along the river it's an obliteration of everything that came before it.

I went round and round about this stuff with my college biology professor (who like the Chinese form of population control but that's another story). Basically anything a human before the USA was founded and anything an animal does is natural. But if a human today does anything it's unnatural.

I asked him why if a monkey uses a stick to catch ants inside a log it's a form of intelligence and learning for the monkey but if a human invents a bulldozer to move earth faster than he used to be able to move it with his hands it's an unnatural act? His answer was basically because he says it's unnatural.

Most of the other students actually woke up and thought about that question before returning to their slumber so I guess the B.S. C I was given worth all the time I spent arguing with him.

Who says you can't get an education at a Community College that is comparable to a University.

[Prof Engineer]

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[Little Bill]

...a human invents a bulldozer to move earth faster than he used to be able to move it with his hands it's an unnatural act?

People don't lke dirt cluttering up their view. I like flat ground gives me a clear field of fire and a pleasing look at the lake. I think that our ancestors has a simiar view, which led to the invention of the D9 and the M 60.

[blam]

"If not, then what were they?"

A Tradition Of Giants

[blam]

Ping.

[First Amendment]

(I know of your interest in archeology and ancient civilizations; and I have posted about this before, so forgive me if you know about it already, but others may not know...)
A researcher (with scientific background) named Michael Cremo wrote a book entitled "Forbidden Archeology - the Hidden History of the Human Race" proving (to my satisfaction) that human civilization - at least as far as anatomically "modern" humans eixisting - is much, much more ancient than the current scientific elite state as fact. He describes how many or most of the archeological finds that supposedly support recent human development, have flaws in the conclusions, with much evidence that has been hidden or unpublicized.
His website is www.mcremo.com, I think, or do a Google search.
He also cites evidence that places humans in the Americas much earlier than is currently accepted.
He claims there is a "knowledge filter" which prevents archeologists who don't toe the accepted line from going public with differing conclusions, with evidence and careers destroyed, and reputations smeared.

[ZOTnot]

I share your interest in archaelogy. I was part of a 'dig' in Brownsville PA in 1971 as a function of the National Science Foundation. The modern historical site was a cabin from the 1700's. The ancient historical site was pottery shards, postholes, arrowheads, and jewelry fashioned from animal bones from, perhaps, an Adena site on a nearby hilltop.

I wonder if the writer knows that Moundsville is in West Virginia and not in Ohio. Probably 1.5 hours southwest of Pittsburgh along the Ohio River?

[First_Salute]

blam,

I am glad that you provided the link.

There is apparently a great secret about the Serpent Mound in Adams County, Ohio, which shouldn't be such a secret, anymore. I had always thought that the word would become public, but then again, we've had some things under wraps...

Since the late 1980's, by way of such particulars, we have known what is in the Serpent Mound. The entire Serpent Mound is earth built up upon giant stone blocks.

The surrounding earth has been overlayed by the ages' cycles of debris, such that the current superficial mound, appears to be relatively but a few feet high; when in ancient times, it may have been as much as 30 to 40 feet high.

As far as I've heard, nobody yet knows what peoples set the stones; and thereafter, what peoples covered up the stones. Were they the same, or different? What was the span between the events? Etc.

Of course, I'm just reporting something I overheard in a restaurant somewhere.

[Libertina]

Who says you can't get an education at a Community College that is comparable to a University?
LOL Only college professors are caught up in the unnatural act of attacking their own species. Good for standing up to him Big Ern. An excellent, throught provoking question as well. Because of you, the other CCers got their $'s worth!

[blam]

Yes, there's something unusual going on with these mound builders and the ancient people in that region. I'm convinced we don't have the whole story yet. Some words to do a search on: Alligewi,Lenni Lenape,Talligeu,Talligewi,Allegans,Alleghans,Talega and Wallum Olum.

You should also find and read the book Earlier Than You Think by George Carter.

[WKB]

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[blam]

Click here to find a used copy of George Carter's book, Earlier Than You Think.