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.."No Recall" Judge FOGEL = Friend of CLINTON "No Under God Pledge" Judge REINHARDT..
The Los Angeles Times ^ | 08/16/2003 | Monte Morin

Posted on 08/16/2003 10:13:44 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE

NEVER FORGET

...At the end of the Day yesterday, Friday August 15, 2003 San Jose U.S. District Court JEREMY D. FOGEL ruled that in 2 weeks he may push California's October 7, 2003 Election to Recall and Replace Friend of CLINTON California Gov. GRAY DAVIS back to the March 2004 Presidential Primary Election, thus increasing DAVIS' Chances for Survival.

...Shades, perhaps, of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Judge and Friend of the CLINTONS ..STEPHEN REINHARDT's getting a retired 9th Circuit Judge other than himself to ban our "UNDER GOD" Pledge of Allegiance in our California Schools over a year ago..? Hmmm, could be.

...Turns out ...Friend of the CLINTONS Judge STEPHEN REINHARDT was also close friends with Judge JEREMY D. FOGEL's father long ago and has known San Jose U.S. District Judge JEREMY D. FOGEL since he was a boy...!!!

...Judge JEREMY D. FOGEL has also stopped the mailing out of Military Members' Racall Ballots overseas until he makes his final Recall ruling in 2 weeks, the 1st Killing of Military Ballots since the Year 2000 Florida Election that prompted our nationwide 'SORE-LOSERMAN' Freep Demonstrations that saved this Country.

Hey, San Jose, Time to Freep..???

NEVER FORGET


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: clintonlegacy; clintons; fogel; jeremydfogel; jeremyfogel; judiciary; liberals; norecall; purge; reinhardt; stephenreinhardt
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NEVER FORGET

REINHARDT Part I = 2 years ago Chapman University Graduate School/Law School Commencement Speaker Judge STEPHEN REINHARDT was such a Friend of the CLINTONS that he boasted about it over and over again to an audience that ended up BOO'ing him off the Commencement Stage. REINHARDT had to cut his Commencement Speech short because of all the BOO's he was getting every time he mentioned his love for HILLARY & BILL CLINTON. No Kidding..!!! I was there.

REINHARDT Part II = The REINHARDT Ruling to ban our "UNDER GOD" Pledge of Allegiance for our Schools, now on its way the the U.S. Supreme Court.

REINHARDT Part III = The REINHARDT Ruling to probably postpone the GRAY DAVIS Recall back to oblivion.

The Enemy is now Within, the War has Come Home.

Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Vet-"WE WERE SOLDIERS".. Battle of IA DRANG-1965

NEVER FORGET

1 posted on 08/16/2003 10:13:45 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: All; Carl/NewsMax; Diver Dave; Saundra Duffy; kristinn; Angelwood; Judicial Watch; Joy Angela; ...
'Judge is No Stranger to Controversy'

'He has been involved in cases involving medical marijuana and Nazi memorabillia'

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-me-fedjudge16aug16,1,5324826.story?coll=la-news-a_section
2 posted on 08/16/2003 10:22:22 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; All
The Enemy is now Within,
The War has Come Home.


Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer / Vet-U.S. Opening Days of the Vietnam War-1965

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm
(Photos)

3 posted on 08/16/2003 10:25:25 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I was so afraid that some stupid egomanic judge would do this after Clinton shopped a few for Davis! The people of California will be angry, but helpless as usual to stop this outrage!
We have no rights anymore.
4 posted on 08/16/2003 10:27:54 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
FOGEL has also stopped the mailing out of Military Members' Racall Ballots overseas until he makes his final Recall ruling in 2 weeks, the 1st Killing of Military Ballots since the Year 2000 Florida Election that prompted our nationwide 'SORE-LOSERMAN' Freep Demonstrations that saved this Country.

Very Democrat of him.

5 posted on 08/16/2003 10:28:17 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: All; flamefront; SMEDLEYBUTLER; generalissimoduane
NEVER FORGET


DAVIS stays =
President HILLARY in 2004

ARNOLD Wins =
President BUSH in 2004

And Judge STEPHEN REINHARDT...
with all his Friends of CLINTONS...
...know it.


NEVER FORGET
6 posted on 08/16/2003 10:30:19 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
"...Judge JEREMY D. FOGEL has also stopped the mailing out of Military Members' Racall Ballots overseas until he makes his final Recall ruling in 2 weeks..."

This REALLY makes me angry.
Our military fight and sometimes die protecting our right to vote
and now have that very right taken away from them.
7 posted on 08/16/2003 10:31:43 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget those who have given their all)
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To: Ann Archy
The REPUBLICAN Party =

The FREEDOM Party

The DEMOCRAT Party =

The Anti-FREEDOM Party
8 posted on 08/16/2003 10:31:55 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Activist judges are living, breathing fossils.
9 posted on 08/16/2003 10:33:08 PM PDT by floriduh voter (President Backbone's Got My Vote)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for the revolting info.

The "under God" ruling exposed this hack for what he is.
He reminds me of corrupt/bought lawmen that speckle the history of the old west............

10 posted on 08/16/2003 10:33:33 PM PDT by TeleStraightShooter
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; All
NEVER FORGET


.."We must always affirm and support our Military Members' Right to Vote...

...for after all...

...they are the ones out there...

...risking their LIVES...

...for that Right" =


"ALOHA RONNIE Guyer, KNBC-TV Channel 4 Los Angeles, 'Sore-Loserman/Count the Military Votes' Freep Demonstration, Westwood Federal Building, November 2000


NEVER FORGET
11 posted on 08/16/2003 10:37:12 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: Ann Archy; All
They don't want to disenfranchise the illegals who won't understand the ballot process. No joke.

The DNC has to train the people who are going to participate in massive voter fraud. Two months isn't enough time to learn the intricacies of voter fraud.

Please email your candidate links to my tag line web site. California has top billing for now, even if this stuff drags out. I used to live in Canoga Park and also Long Beach. I have an Arnold link but would welcome McClintock or Simon but, please no Gary Coleman or Gallagher. lol

12 posted on 08/16/2003 10:39:38 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: floriduh voter
Friends of CLINTON Judges =

Friends of HO CHI MINH,

1960's HILLARY RODHAM &

1960's BILL CLINTON
13 posted on 08/16/2003 10:40:18 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
This is a reverse Florida tactic. They declared disenfranchisement after our election. In California, they are anticipating disenfranchisement so denying the will of the people who signed the Petitions.

The dems know that if a pubbie wins California, they will really get trounced in 04. I think they'll get trounced anyway. There's no way the dems are going to win Florida in 04.

This is really about Hillary. She has delusions about getting back in the White House. Davis is just a pitiful pawn.

14 posted on 08/16/2003 10:44:25 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
It seems to me this is grounds for judicial impeachment. I live in MA, so it is pointless, but I would suggest that voters who live in areas where they have congressional representation contact their senators and reps about this...
15 posted on 08/16/2003 10:46:12 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
The Senator from New York doesn't seem to be in NY very often. Wish she'd go back to Europe where she fits in with the socialists.
16 posted on 08/16/2003 10:49:24 PM PDT by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: floriduh voter; All
In a new -Time of War-..

In a new Century...

With an Enemy that is now...

Just around the corner and...

Up your Street:


.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Senate Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629
17 posted on 08/16/2003 10:54:18 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
INTSUM
18 posted on 08/16/2003 10:58:37 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: floriduh voter; BKO; Carl/NewsMax; Judicial Watch; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Ragtime Cowgirl; ...
...After last night's stunning Preliminary Ruling by Judge FOGEL, killing our Military Votes once more, and getting ready to push our Recall DAVIS Election back to oblivion...

...I woke up this morning exclaiming that this sounds a lot like another Friend of CLINTON ..Judge STEPHEN REINHART's Dirty Judicial Trick.

...Seems the Los Angeles Times is getting a similiar itch about this as well..?

...It all now makes me wonder about the San Diego Judge who ruled at the end of the day Friday two weeks ago ...allowing Recall Voters who don't vote on the Recall itself to vote for a DAVIS Replacement anyway = Easier to Vote Democratic, perhaps..?

...Another Judge REINHARDT Clone, perhaps..?
19 posted on 08/16/2003 11:07:06 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
BTTT ...........Wow !

Stay safe !

20 posted on 08/16/2003 11:10:12 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
What a tragedy that would be: no Schwarzenegger movies on TV until next spring!
21 posted on 08/16/2003 11:10:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: floriduh voter; All
Wednesday = HILLARY in Cleveland

Thursday Morning = HILLARY Mouthpiece ARIANNA HUFFINGTON attacks ARNOLD on TV for having a Link to Power Company ENRON

Thursday Afternoon = Massive Power Blackout starts in Cleveland

Thursday Night = HILLARY calls into 'Larry King-Live' to blast BUSH for the Power Blackout and compliment Guest and Recall Target Gov. GRAY DAVIS

Later Thursday Night = Friend of HILLARY Liberal Canadian Government states on TV that the Power Blackout was due to a Lightning Strike on a Buffalo, New York Nuclear Power Plant

Even later Thursday Night = U.S. Government Lightning Map is published showing that U.S. Lighting Strikes on Thursday went no further north than the Carolina's.

Hmmmm..!!!!!

GOD Bless the CLINTONS...
They just LOVE those 2-Fer's,
don't they..?

22 posted on 08/16/2003 11:17:32 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: LiteKeeper
...Say again, all before INSTUM..?

...Definition, Please.
25 posted on 08/16/2003 11:49:16 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Wolfstar; FairOpinion; PhiKapMom; Howlin; All
Good work, Ronnie!

Which USSC Justice is assigned to act on behalf of CA during recess?
26 posted on 08/16/2003 11:57:00 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Join Us for a Complete Listing of All The Recall Threads.


27 posted on 08/17/2003 12:03:35 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: onyx; miss print; Republic; kristinn
Me not know which U.S. Supreme Court Justice is covering California right now, but someone's definately going to have to bring some real Justice to the Left Coast and fast..?

CALIFORNIA =

The Real "OPEN RANGE"
28 posted on 08/17/2003 12:06:19 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: genghis; Diver Dave
Let's leave the MICHAEL BALDWIN Dirty Tricks to the Dirty Trickster

Media Events = Most Mileage
29 posted on 08/17/2003 12:09:41 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: goldstategop; DPB101; DrMartinVonNostrand
Which USSC Justice is covering CA during recess?
30 posted on 08/17/2003 12:16:16 AM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
BTTT.
31 posted on 08/17/2003 12:28:13 AM PDT by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: floriduh voter
I have an Arnold link but would welcome McClintock or Simon

Here they are:

Tom McClintock for Governor

Senator Tom McClintock - Home Page (state senate page)

Simon for California

32 posted on 08/17/2003 1:48:42 AM PDT by heleny
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Judge JEREMY D. FOGEL has also stopped the mailing out of Military Members' Racall Ballots overseas until he makes his final Recall ruling in 2 weeks

It's amazing how insolent a judge can be. Why not just let the ballots be mailed, and then simply destroy the ballots if the election were postponed.

While I generally wouldn't like electronic ballots because of the ease with which they can be tampered, they could help overseas military votes be counted.

33 posted on 08/17/2003 1:54:45 AM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
I wonder how many more millions of dollars the election will cost if this judge stops it after the process has already begun. I know our County Clerk has already sent out a mailing to many voters telling them that they would now be mail in only voters (no actual polling place.)
34 posted on 08/17/2003 1:57:55 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
NEVER FORGET, IGNORE PEOPLE WHO POST STUPID THINGS LIKE:

DAVIS stays = President HILLARY in 2004
35 posted on 08/17/2003 2:31:42 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

36 posted on 08/17/2003 3:41:42 AM PDT by KQQL (^@__*^)
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To: AmericaUnited
Ok, so we'll ignore you for posting something stupid - your personal attack on ALOHA RONNIE.
37 posted on 08/17/2003 3:53:22 AM PDT by Abundy
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Good catch Ronnie!

I would watch for the judge to push the date out so far that the election exceeds state law requirements. When the judge does this, the election results are almost guaranteed to be overturned by a higher court if they are contested by lawsuit. This is a favorite tactic of "Tammany hall" politicians and their lackeys.


I dont know California law, and its recall election statutes, however. Be vigilant.
38 posted on 08/17/2003 4:32:33 AM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Actually, this action represents the SECOND killing of military overseas absentee ballots by Democratic Party affliated judges since the 2000 election. Let's not forget that the Supremes of New Jersey put a hold on sending out such ballots for their state until they could put the recessitated corpse Lautenberg on the ballot in place of Bob (the Torch) Torrecelli. Some New Jersey residents stationed overseas complained that they didn't receive the revised ballots in time for their votes to count, but since they were only military voters, who cares?
39 posted on 08/17/2003 5:35:43 AM PDT by jpthomas
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To: Abundy
Sometimes it gets very old and tiring to read irrational gibberish.
40 posted on 08/17/2003 6:26:02 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
What the Dims don't win through votes they win by activist judges.

What the Dims don't win through legislation they win through liberal courts.

What the Dims don't win by force of rational debate they win through lies and media propaganda.

What the Dims don't win through the democratic process they win through fascism.

Thus spake Zarathustra.

Leni

41 posted on 08/17/2003 6:40:14 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Here's a link to a story today in the Mercury News that deals with Fogel and his decision. Gives a bit more info on his backround. And notice that the author of this article neglects to mention anything about who many of the recipients of the overseas ballots might be...
42 posted on 08/17/2003 6:53:05 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; All
Another interesting link with a mention of Fogel. Do you speak legalese? If so, what does this mean:

Then, at a preliminary hearing which Relator attended as a gallery witness, on October 31, 2000 A.D., Judge Fogel dismissed said CROSS-COMPLAINT sua sponte, but without a proper motion to dismiss having been filed. Then, Judge Fogel openly admitted ‑‑ on the record, in open court, and in a verbal admission witnessed by Relator ‑‑ that he, Jeremy Fogel, was practicing law. It is a high misdemeanor and impeachable offense for a federal judge to practice law from the bench. See 28 U.S.C. 454 and 18 U.S.C. 242.

43 posted on 08/17/2003 7:13:08 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: AmericaUnited
"Sometimes it gets very old and tiring to read irrational gibberish."

Maybe you should look at your attachment to being tired. :)

Be Well ~ Be Armed ~ Be Safe ~ Molon Labe!

44 posted on 08/17/2003 7:15:43 AM PDT by blackie
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To: Alamo-Girl
Do you speak legalese? If so, can you 'splain my post # 43 to me :)
45 posted on 08/17/2003 7:23:19 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla; Carl/NewsMax
...I see where the San Jose Mercury-News, a paper San Jose Judge FOGEL would be reading, fails to mention his lifelong link to Friend of CLINTON...

...Judge STEPHEN 'No Under God Pledge' REINHARDT..?
46 posted on 08/17/2003 7:37:35 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
It is time for Kalifornia to defy the court.We simply cannot allow one person to tell the masses what to do.Besides,it would be impossible to arrest that many people.
47 posted on 08/17/2003 7:44:11 AM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; All
Anyone got a link to this news that is not on the LA Times site?
48 posted on 08/17/2003 8:15:02 AM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: need_a_screen_name
...I haven't seen any other news source exposing Judge FOGEL's lifelong link to close Friend of HILLARY & BILL CLINTON...

Judge STEPHAN 'No Under God in our Pledge of Allegiance' REINHARDT.

...That's WHY I posted this Thread on Freerepublic.com, part of America's new alternative News Network.
49 posted on 08/17/2003 8:41:38 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: All; INSENSITIVE GUY; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Alamo-Girl
This was THE WEEK THAT WAS =

Wednesday - HILLARY loudly blasts BUSH at her Booksigning in... CLEVELAND, OHIO

Thursday - HILLARY loudly blasts BUSH on CNN-TV after a massive POWER Blackout that started in... CLEVELAND, OHIO

Friday - HILLARY's Friend U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Judge STEPHAN 'No Under God Pledge' REINHARDT has a Judge FOGEL, who REINHARDT has be-friended since FOGEL was a boy, put the Brakes on the California Recall Election that could also put the Brakes on HILLARY's 2004 Presidential Run

Yes, this was THE WEEK THAT WAS
50 posted on 08/17/2003 8:58:20 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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