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Astrologers fail to predict Proof they are wrong
News Telegraph ^ | 8/17/2003 | Robert Matthews

Posted on 08/18/2003 6:25:02 PM PDT by RockDoc

Good news for rational, level-headed Virgoans everywhere: just as you might have predicted, scientists have found astrology to be rubbish, writes Science Correspondent Robert Matthews.

Good news for rational, level-headed Virgoans everywhere: just as you might have predicted, scientists have found astrology to be rubbish.

Its central claim - that our human characteristics are moulded by the influence of the Sun, Moon and planets at the time of our birth - appears to have been debunked once and for all and beyond doubt by the most thorough scientific study ever made into it.

For several decades, researchers tracked more than 2,000 people - most of them born within minutes of each other. According to astrology, the subject should have had very similar traits.

The babies were originally recruited as part of a medical study begun in London in 1958 into how the circumstances of birth can affect future health. More than 2,000 babies born in early March that year were registered and their development monitored at regular intervals.

Researchers looked at more than 100 different characteristics, including occupation, anxiety levels, marital status, aggressiveness, sociability, IQ levels and ability in art, sport, mathematics and reading - all of which astrologers claim can be gauged from birth charts.

The scientists failed to find any evidence of similarities between the "time twins", however. They reported in the current issue of the Journal of Consciousness Studies: "The test conditions could hardly have been more conducive to success . . . but the results are uniformly negative."

Analysis of the research was carried out by Geoffrey Dean, a scientist and former astrologer based in Perth, Australia, and Ivan Kelly, a psychologist at the University of Saskatchewan, Canada.

Dr Dean said the results undermined the claims of astrologers, who typically work with birth data far less precise than that used in the study. "They sometimes argue that times of birth just a minute apart can make all the difference by altering what they call the 'house cusps'," he said. "But in their work, they are happy to take whatever time they can get from a client."

The findings caused alarm and anger in astrological circles yesterday. Roy Gillett, the president of the Astrological Association of Great Britain, said the study's findings should be treated "with extreme caution" and accused Dr Dean of seeking to "discredit astrology".

Frank McGillion, a consultant to the Southampton-based Research Group for the Critical Study of Astrology, said of the newly published work: "It is simplistic and highly selective and does not cover all of the research." He added that he would lodge a complaint with the editors of the journal.

Astrologers have for centuries claimed to be able to extract deep insights into the personality and destiny of people using nothing more than the details of the time and place of birth.

Astrology has been growing in popularity. Surveys suggest that a majority of people in Britain believe in it, compared with only 13 per cent 50 years ago. The Association of Professional Astrologers claims that 80 per cent of Britons read star columns, and psychological studies have found that 60 per cent regularly read their horoscopes.

Despite the scepticism of scientists, astrology has grown to be a huge worldwide business, spawning thousands of telephone lines, internet sites and horoscope columns in newspapers and magazines.

It seems that no sector of society is immune to its attraction. A recent survey found that a third of science students subscribed to some aspects of astrology, while some supposedly hard-headed businessmen now support a thriving market in "financial astrology" - paying for predictions of trends such as the rise and fall of the stock market. Astrology supplements have been known to increase newspaper circulation figures and papers are prepared to pay huge sums to the most popular stargazers.

Some of the most popular figures in the field, such as Russell Grant, Mystic Meg and Shelley von Strunckel, can earn £600,000 or more a year.

A single profitable astrology website can be worth as much as £50 million.

When the Daily Mail discovered that its expert on the zodiac, Jonathan Cainer, was about to leave the newspaper in 1999, it reportedly offered him a £1 million salary and a £1 million bonus to stay. He still preferred the offer at the Daily Express: no salary but all the money from his telephone lines.

The time-twins study is only the start of the bad news for astrologers, however. Dr Dean and Prof Kelly also sought to determine whether stargazers could match a birth chart to the personality profile of a person among a random selection.

They reviewed the evidence from more than 40 studies involving over 700 astrologers, but found the results turned out no better than guesswork.

The success rate did not improve even when astrologers were given all the information they asked for and were confident they had made the right choice.

Dr Dean said the consistency of the findings weighed heavily against astrology.

"It has no acceptable mechanism, its principles are invalid and it has failed hundreds of tests," he said. "But no hint of these problems will be found in astrology books which, in effect, are exercises in deception."

Dr Dean is ready for a torrent of criticism. He said: "I'm probably the most hated person in astrology because I'm regarded as a turncoat."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: astology; kookfest; loons; research; stars
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"Astrology has been growing in popularity. Surveys suggest that a majority of people in Britain believe in it, compared with only 13 per cent 50 years ago."

Any Free Republic believers?

1 posted on 08/18/2003 6:25:02 PM PDT by RockDoc
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To: RockDoc
Well, damn. I check the horoscope once a year on my birthday, and it just assured me that I'd get a financial windfall in October.

Maybe I should cancel that round the world cruise I booked for Thanksgiving.

2 posted on 08/18/2003 6:28:52 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: RockDoc
I'll read your palm for $20. Just hold it up to the monitor....
3 posted on 08/18/2003 6:29:54 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: RockDoc
Astrology works. This is irrefutable.
4 posted on 08/18/2003 6:32:08 PM PDT by montag813
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To: RockDoc
Astrology works. This is irrefutable.
5 posted on 08/18/2003 6:32:27 PM PDT by montag813
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To: RockDoc
My mother was an astrologer. She used her astrology to chart the growth of stocks based upon the astrological chart of the company and its executives. She was accurate approx. 80% of the time. My father never let her play with anything more than the "cheap" stocks.
6 posted on 08/18/2003 6:33:42 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: RockDoc
Well, maybe not a true believer, but I can suspend disbelief.

"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, then are dreamed of in your philosophies." - William S.

One case to support astrology, at least as a lead for clues - try a little reading on Hillary's horoscope. The results are pretty good, albeit chilling...

7 posted on 08/18/2003 6:34:27 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Serving You... on Operation Noble Eagle!)
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To: montag813
How about fortune cookies?
8 posted on 08/18/2003 6:36:49 PM PDT by RockDoc
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To: RockDoc
Peopel who believe in it won't want to hear this. It's like trying to document that Arnold is nothing more than a big liberal. You'll just get flamed.
9 posted on 08/18/2003 6:36:50 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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To: RockDoc
If astrology is correct then every person dying as a result of the A-Bomb dropped on Hiroshima was born under the same sign.
10 posted on 08/18/2003 6:41:01 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: Nachum
My mother was an astrologer. She used her astrology to chart the growth of stocks based upon the astrological chart of the company and its executives. She was accurate approx. 80% of the time. My father never let her play with anything more than the "cheap" stocks.

Then either you're an heir to bazillions, or your father was a total dope.

11 posted on 08/18/2003 6:41:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: RockDoc
My astronmy professor once pointed out that even if it worked, everyone would is wrong about what sign they are because for various reasons there has been a shift and what was once Aries is now Taurus, etc...
12 posted on 08/18/2003 6:42:41 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: RockDoc
Yes, I know that detailed Astrology can work, but for different reasons. What you read in your Newspaper, is total rubbish, but an honest horoscope can be amazing sometimes.

I consider an honest horoscope as one that required the exact minute, Latitude and Longitude and other details of the moment when you were born.

The human mind is rather amazing and may sometimes be able to see things in the future. Most often these predictions prove to be false, but there is enough historical documentation available to keep the question open.

Astrology is only one of many methods to help the human mind open up to it's own abilities. The key is to use the method that works best for you as an individual.

No, the stars do not rule your future and Astrology is only one of many methods to help the human mind focus upon the abilities already there.

The secret of Astrology is locked inside the human mind, and not in the stars.

13 posted on 08/18/2003 6:42:48 PM PDT by Hunble
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To: Nachum
She was accurate approx. 80% of the time

What exactly does that mean? We want audited financials!!!

14 posted on 08/18/2003 6:43:47 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Dog Gone
No, I'm not an heir to bazillians, and I am not going to comment on my father. -But he did pay for college.
15 posted on 08/18/2003 6:43:58 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Rodney King
LOL! She died some time ago. The records are shredded.

As Bart Simpson said:

I wasn't there, I didn't do it, and you can't prove anything...

16 posted on 08/18/2003 6:46:38 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Scully; Piltdown_Woman; LogicWings; ...
Analogous situation ping.
17 posted on 08/18/2003 6:49:58 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: Hunble
Actually, the secret is locked in the soul; the stars can give some clues, but it is up to each of us to maximize what is given to us.
18 posted on 08/18/2003 6:51:48 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: Rodney King
"My astronmy professor once pointed out that even if it worked, everyone would is wrong about what sign they are because for various reasons there has been a shift and what was once Aries is now Taurus, etc..."

Recalling:

Astrology wizards you floor us,
Your odd superstition does bore us.
You still haven't guessed
That the poles have precessed,
Now your Gemini's really a Taurus!
19 posted on 08/18/2003 6:52:51 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: RockDoc
Heck, I'm a Virgo and know all there is to know about Scorpio women:) The one born on halloween was the worst!
20 posted on 08/18/2003 6:59:41 PM PDT by BobS
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