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Rush Limbaugh thinks Arnold is conservative
WND ^ | Aug. 21, 2002 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 08/21/2003 12:06:04 AM PDT by FairOpinion

After initially stating Arnold Schwarzenegger is not a conservative, radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh is now professing the actor and governor-wannabe is actually conservative in his heart, with advisers trying to manage him out of his core beliefs.

"We've got a golden opportunity out here in California if Schwarzenegger would simply be who he is," Limbaugh said on his top-rated national program yesterday. "I think Schwarzenegger is a conservative."

The comments come on the heels of previous analysis once Schwarzenegger announced his candidacy. Limbaugh then stated:

"Here me now and believe me later, my friends: all these conservative orgasms over Arnold Schwarzenegger are – like the 'Gorbasms' liberals experienced over Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev – fake. I know that 'R' next to Schwarzenegger's name excites the White House, but his own words prove he's not a conservative. I call this 'The Hollywood Syndrome,' and it happens every time some actor-type says anything even remotely conservative. I'm not trying to cold shower anybody here, but don't look to anyone in Hollywood to validate your political ideas."

But during yesterday's show, Limbaugh said his new suggestion that Schwarzenegger is conservative was not based on anything the Austrian native said.

I think Schwarzenegger's natural inclinations, when he arrived in this country and who he is (I know there's the Kennedy thing there), I think that's who he is. He's afraid to be it, doesn't want to be it anymore, whatever, or has been advised he can't be it if he's going to win. If Schwarzenegger would simply run on a conservative fiscal agenda, he would win. He doesn't need to do all of this stuff to go to "the middle." Limbaugh, who himself penned a Wall Street Journal op-ed commentary on the need for conservatism in California, lamented how he hadn't heard Schwarzenegger discuss lowering taxes or providing business incentives, though later in the day the actor outlined some of his fiscal policies.

Following a meeting with billionaire investor and abortion-rights supporter Warren Buffett, as well as Ronald Reagan's Secretary of State George Shultz, Schwarzenegger said he was against high taxes in principle because state residents had been punished long enough.

Schwarzenegger and wife, Maria Shriver

"From the time they get up in the morning and flush the toilet, they're taxed. Then they go and get a coffee, they're taxed. They get into their car, they're taxed," he said. "They go to the gas station, they're taxed. They go for lunch, they're taxed. This goes on all day long. ... Even when they go to bed, they have the fear that they will be taxed while they sleep. ...

"We must have a constitutional spending cap and must immediately attack operating deficits head on. Does this mean we are going to make cuts? Yes. Does this mean education is on table? No. Does this mean I am willing to raise taxes? No. Additional taxes are the last burden we need to put on the backs of the citizens and businesses of California."

But the candidate also pointed out he couldn't rule out any higher levies.

"It's clear we can't ever say never," he said.

In her latest WorldNetDaily column, commentator Ann Coulter says while Schwarzenegger is certainly an improvement over current Gov. Gray Davis, the actor does not carry the torch for conservative-minded citizens.

"Conservatives were wary of Schwarzenegger even before Tax 'em and Kill 'em Buffett joined the campaign," she writes. "Schwarzenegger claims to be a fiscal conservative and a liberal on social issues. Historically, that means: 'liberal.' All politicians claim to be tax-cutting, fiscal conservatives when they are running for office.'

Still, Limbaugh says one only needs to look at the Republican actor's own lifestyle in recent years to gauge what he believes.

"I can tell you the way Arnold Schwarzenegger invests and lives his life and runs his own businesses, there's nothing liberal about it."


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; california; limbaugh; mcclintock; rush; schwarzenegger; simon
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To: jam137
Rush never said (R)nold is "now a conservative".

Here are his comments from his website and what he said on the radio today:

How Arnold Got His (Conservative) Groove Back

If you saw Arnold's press conference, you know how he rose to my challenge - and you can relive those moments through the magic of the RushLimbaugh.com audio links below. I was struck in particular by Secretary Schultz. He apparently saw a need to validate Schwarzenegger's maturity, competence and all that. It reminded me of his statement after Reagan walked out on Gorbachev at Reykjavik: "I never felt prouder of my president than I was today." Schultz knows they're trying to do the old tar-the-(R)-as-an-idiot trick on (R)nold.

As for Buffett, Arnold told him he'd have to do 500 sit-ups if he ever mentioned Prop. 13 and suggested hiking property taxes again. Arnold's impassioned offensive against punishing the people of California with high taxes represented a 180 towards that famous '64 Reagan stump speech for Goldwater. Schwarzenegger hammered away at the need for fiscal discipline. It's another conservative principle: You can't spend more than you take in. He said, "[O]f course I want to give away anything and everything. But can we afford it?" Great question! Besides, you ruin people's incentive to support themselves and they don't appreciate it if you give them everything.

Arnold told of a woman in tears when Prop. 13 passed because it meant she didn't have to sell her house to pay taxes, and told Buffett his taxes were lower than others because he hadn't sold his house and had it reassessed. A reporter pressed Arnold to name a program he'd cut, and his response brought to mind Reagan's overall philosophy on not spending more than you earn. Arnold nuked the reporter's premise that the very people who've overspent the people's money are the only ones who can reverse the trend. He's auditing the books, and he says he's going to find places to cut. This, and his rejection of tax hikes as an option, contrast starkly to the $8 billion tax gouge of Davis and the $7.9 billion proposed gouge of Cruz Bustamante.
101 posted on 08/21/2003 10:08:17 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats have stunted brain development!)
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To: A2J
You guys need to stop sniffing glue.

Rush doesn't "take orders" from the likes of Rove or the GOP establishment.

Anyone that listens to him would know that.
102 posted on 08/21/2003 10:10:03 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats have stunted brain development!)
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To: Russell Scott
Ease up on the ritalin buddy.
103 posted on 08/21/2003 10:12:10 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats have stunted brain development!)
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To: fightu4it
None of you Rush quoters actually listen do you?

You know, he has a website where he actually POSTS the things he says on the radio. And on the "free side" of his sight.

Geez, I've heard so many misquotes and out right lies that I thought I was on DU for a while.

104 posted on 08/21/2003 10:15:22 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats have stunted brain development!)
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To: FairOpinion
marking
105 posted on 08/21/2003 10:18:49 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: FairOpinion
I was encouraged by a radio interview with our former state Sec. of State from California, Bill Jones on a local talk show today. He made me feel lots better about Arnold, and convince me more or less that he will be good for the state. He is advising Arnold, and has had many conversations with him about his policy plans.
106 posted on 08/21/2003 10:21:58 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: ladyinred
Newt Gingrich also enthusiastically endorsed Arnold on Hannity & Colmes the other day.
107 posted on 08/21/2003 10:25:13 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: DiamondDon1
Another interesting article which also confirms what I have been saying: Vegas oddsmaker: Schwarzenegger slim favorite in recall race

Republican Schwarzenegger as a 7-5 pick to be the state's next governor.

Peter Ueberroth (12-1) and businessman Bill Simon (20-1), are followed by two candidates at 40-1 odds, independent commentator Arianna Huffington and Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock. Green Party candidate Peter Camejo is a 50-1 pick.

108 posted on 08/21/2003 10:32:15 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Rush is where many conservatives are. In the end, we pull for Arnold because he's the most conservative candidate who has the most realistic chance of winning. I think Limbaugh coming around is a MAJOR positive development for Arnold. Rush can make or break candidates with his 20M listeners. And I think Arnold's selection of advisors going forward will be important because they will help shape policy in an Arnold administration. In a way, Limbaugh is putting him on notice about that.
109 posted on 08/21/2003 10:32:21 PM PDT by jagrmeister (http://www.ArnoldGovernor.net - the most comprehensive site on Arnold's candidacy)
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To: Fledermaus
Rush never said (R)nold is "now a conservative"

I agree.
110 posted on 08/21/2003 10:33:00 PM PDT by jam137
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To: ladyinred
"I was encouraged by a radio interview with our former state Sec. of State from California, Bill Jones on a local talk show today. He made me feel lots better about Arnold, and convince me more or less that he will be good for the state. He is advising Arnold, and has had many conversations with him about his policy plans. "

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I didn't realize Bill Jones is actually advising Arnold.

A lot of FReepers supported him. Now that he is advising Arnold, does that make him a RINO? Or perhaps a number of conservatives are supporting Arnold for a reason.
111 posted on 08/21/2003 10:48:32 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Good Morning Fair...

Dream on, there will be a rude awakening.

Some of my best evidence, is YOUR evidence, to wit...

Everyone hated Davis and enough Dems still voted for him, that he won. FACT.

Exhibit A: And in that race of races, exactly how many Republicans were running...tick, tock, tick, tock...did you say one? And it was Simon?...I knew you were smart...

Exhibit B: Who has more people registered in California, Republicans or Democrats?...tick, tock, tick, tock...did you say Democrats?...thank God, I knew we could agree on something...

Exhibit C: Davis was hated, and given a choice of change or voting for their party, what did Democrats do? Did they vote for Simon (who ran an admittedly horrible campaign)? ...that answer was too easy...

Arnold is a voice for change, and Democrats can feel they got less than a fully conservative Republican in Arnold. If we take away the more conservative McClintock, Democrats will have a field day portraying Arnold as too conservative for California, and then its that US versus THEM thing all over again.

I just don't get why you are so worried on DAY 13 of the race...Arnold is up in the polls (even before the media blitz begins), everytime Cruz opens his mouth he sticks an 8 billion dollar foot in it...

On a side note...you doing okay??? Trouble at home perhaps? Stay positive, Arnold will win and we will see what we will see on how he governs...(besides the bookmakers in London have Arnold at 1:10 and Cruz at 2:1)...

DD

P.S. I hope you start feeling better soon...

P.S.S. McClintock for governor...the right and best choice!

112 posted on 08/22/2003 11:11:26 AM PDT by DiamondDon1
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To: doodlelady
We all want the same thing, ultimately, don't you think?

No. Some McClintock supporters (just a fringe few, mind you, but it demonstrates that not "all" want the same thing) have flat out stated if their candidate can't win they would prefer a Bustamante win.

113 posted on 08/22/2003 2:24:54 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
>>> If their candidate can't win they would prefer a Bustamante win <<<

Well then, 'their candidate ' is not the McClintock
I've been listening to.
From what I know of Tom McClintock, NO WAY would he want that. He of all people knows Bustamante better than anyone.



114 posted on 08/22/2003 3:07:55 PM PDT by b9
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