Why Liberals Hate Religion

Hour Eleven ^ | August 21, 2003 | Doug Hagin

[republicandiva]

Agree with you completely. To expand on that theme... religion mandates that the individual bears responsibility for his actions...when was the last time you remember a liberal accepting responsibility for the results of their behavior rather than blaming it on someone or something?

[MissAmericanPie]

Liberals think they are god, God has a name for them, the seed of Satan. Some few liberals think they are Christian, but they have a warped idea of Christianity and what is expected of them and what they expect of others.

Considering themselves God's agents, they instead spawn totalitarianism. Something God abhors to the point of leaving that awful state of condemnation to Satan himself who as the anti-Christ rules not only the world, but every action of the individual down to what and how much he can buy or sell and how often and when he worships.

The problem with Islam is it's totalitarian rule over every aspect of the lives of it's adherents. Islam supposes it worships the God of Abraham, when in actual fact they worship Satan. Being totally deceived, they twist and usurp God's word attempting to wrest the blessings bestowed on Israel and bestow them upon themselves instead. They call Allah, "the greatest deceiver of them all". We Christians call Satan the greatest deceiver of them all and the father of lies.

In Islam the truth takes a back seat to agenda with an ease that staggers and disgusts the western mind that was raised in Christian principles of honesty and truth.

Liberals are exactly the same as Islamists, the truth is relative to their agenda, their are sure their ideas are better, and they seek to control every aspect of the individuals life. So in the end Liberals are as much terrorists in their own way as Islamic terrorists are in their own way. Both demand strict adherence to their warp world view.

[nathanbedford]

No the author is wide of the mark. Ann Coulter, incidently, has got it right on the very last page of her book, Liberals hate religion because they would be God.

[Barnacle]

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[DLfromthedesert]

Quick!! Send this article to the "Christian Conservative" governor of Alabama.

[mwfsu84]

Liberals will tell you that the Declaration of Independence is not a legally binding document, and so the explicity stated belief in that document - that rights are derived from God - is meaningless. It's not God liberals dishonor, it's the founding fathers themselves, and what they stood for.

By creating a nation with rights guided by a higher power than man, we created a nation like no other in mankind. Even today, America is unique in the civil liberties it grants its citizens, because our laws are better than the best among us can offer.

Let's consider how serious Jefferson and his co-signees were when they affixed their names to our nation's birth certificate.

On the day the Declaration of Independence was signed in Philadelphia, British troops were less than one hundred miles away and advancing on the city. By affixing their names to the Declaration, each of the men who signed it realized in all likelihood they were probably signing their death warrant. To say that God, not King George gave men their rights was an act of treason, punishable by death. Indeed, the British did seek revenge on the signers, and many of the founding fathers saw their homes go up in flames, their loved ones murdered.

If you're going to give all that up, shouldn't it be for something you care about even more?

America is great because the men who led its destiny believed in a guiding hand greater than themselves. Men like Jefferson, Lincoln, Martin Luther King, and Ronald Reagan each faced tyrannies, each overcame them. These were all men of faith. Without that faith to sustain them, it's doubtful they would have even dared to take up the challenge.

This is what liberals are trivializing. They can take away God's names from currency, off courtroom buildings, out of the schools. Those are just words. But if we allow them to disregard what our founding fathers risked their lives for, then I'm afraid these men may have died in vain, and the experiment in Democracy will come to an end.

[First Amendment]

Just look at Hitler, Saddam, and Arafat, and their total lack of even an ounce of feeling for other people's suffering, because their demonic ego in playing God will not allow it.

Someone (my tired old brain won't remember anything tonight) very recently posted a link to a great article called "Hitler's Library" (if you're interested to read it, ping me and I'll copy and paste it). The conclusion was that Hitler believed he was a "god" with a divine mission.

Add to that Ann Coulter's last words in "Treason" - Why They Hate Us - conservatives believe man was created in the image of God, and liberals believe they are God.

There is a very widespread twisted philosophy (as explicitly described in the "Conversations with God" books) that directly says that each individual IS God. I am God, you are God. This is a very twisted version of Buddhism and Vedic monism which has crept into mainstream beliefs. It is evil, and the fruits of such crazy ideas are visible everywhere. Many, many people are either subtly or not-subtly influenced by this wholly false philosophy.

[Avoiding_Sulla]

Thanks C_O.
Now if I can only find my version of these sentiments,

So Liberals must first push God out of the way before they can establish their god, government, as the Supreme Being.

Hence the steady campaign by the Left to remove God as far as possible from as many places as possible.

maybe I can sign on Lando Lincoln to the cause.

In the meantime, please pass this on to Mr. Hagin, LL:

Even more simply put, God is seen, correctly, as incompetition for people's allegiance to secular authority.

That's why the secular power seekers are making war upon His appearance in public. They cannot tolerate people saying to them, or even thinking of them: "Who died and made you God?"

In my humble opinion, those words should rise as a chant -- "who died and made you God?" -- in every venue that a politician of any stripe shows his face.

Keep doing this until they all get the message, "Do not dare go overboard in your intolerance to God or to those of us who revere Him. And do not dare let secular humanists go any further in re-establishing our government as founded on the belief that presumes that any human intelligence is capable of perfection in this world."

[Avoiding_Sulla]

Here it is LL, with added emphasis.

My comments of 8/15 is the post where I first used the word competition to describe what is transpiring in the courts to effectively restrict the influence of religion. I pray these sentiments are repeated by many people here, and with those we can influence, as necessary, as I hope my previous post above made clear.

"Who died and made you God" oh dear politicians?

Posted by Avoiding_Sulla to BlackElk On News/Activism ^ 08/15/2003 10:35 AM PDT #238 of 261 ^ Blackelk, IIRC, Chief Justice Moore was reported to say at the outset of this confrontation: "I am not Congress, and I've passed no law." Which would be referring to the exact wording of the 1st Ammendment prohibitions against establishment of religion. In light of the O'Connor's invoking her landmark phrase "compelling state interest" in overruling the 15th amendment, it would seem that there are few compelling state interests to leave the 10 Commandments where they are. Unless, of course, it is now in the compelling state interest to eradicate any connection of our government to God and his Word. Establishing in His stead the will of whomever is ruling at any particular time in history. In other words, the SCOTUS is establishing the full faith and credit of the United States as the, er, Faith. There is clearly a competition here that SCOTUS is favoring the contemporay State over its JudeoChristian foundation. Is there now an openly "compelling state interest" to establish Faith in the government? Hmmm? Goodbye the first amendment, clause by clause? Hmmm? FWIW, it appears to me that the secular State is now OPENLY in competition for the faith of the people. If that is okay with the majority, we are in a lot more trouble than just this issue. Ah, well, maybe I'm the only one who is foolish enough to be so concerned. I pray I've provoked some thoughts for you my friend. Post Reply | Private Reply | To 134 | View Replies

[ThomasMore]

There is only What I Like and What I Don't Like.

Ah Yes! Good ole subjectivism. Relativism underlies the liberal hate for religion. Religion proclaims the truth that there are absolutes. And like you said, they don't like to be told the truth. They want it there way.

[Desdemona]

Living in a fairly liberal neighborhood, maybe we should put a light-up Nativity on the lawn at Christmas. Kind of by unspoken agreement we all just do lights (and because those things are rather tacky).

Hmmmm.....

[smith288]

Maybe you should leave them up all year. Being tacky can be fun!

[Gritty]

This is a most excellent article you posted. This guy really understands what's going on!

[TradicalRC]

This article should be considered common sense. Too bad it's not.

I found in my own struggle to identify the roots and nature of liberalism that it often resembles the monsters of mythology: the Chimera and the Hydra come to mind.

One notices in the beginnings of humanism in the West, we had a Renaissance. They were still coasting on the inertia of a more Transcendant view of Christianity: compare the spiritual power of the medeival icons to the more titillating melodramas of Michelangelo. It was about this time that modern ideas about politics was born: the power no longer rested with God, but with man. Enter Macchiavelli and his more genteel progeny: Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau, Hume, Kant, etc. Bottom line: all power rests with us.
The modern liberal era was formally kicked off by Rene DesCartes. His dictum Cogito ergo sum-I think, therefore I am is nothing less than elightenment man committing original sin. God is no longer the source of who we are, our own minds create us.
One of the primary differences between liberals and traditionalists is that they base their truth in ideology while we base ours in theology. Man's wisdom or God's wisdom.
Many liberals who call themselves Christian are only nominally Christian. In any confrontation between Church and State, state always wins. That is the fruit of the liberal tree.

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

[Avoiding_Sulla]

As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

Luke 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. ["all in a moment of time" suggests this is a lesson for all time.]

4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. [Statism offers power and great endowment...]

4:7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. [...in exchange for allegiance. Of course, the higher the station one attains, the more with which one will be bought off.]

4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (KJV) [The faith of the Man remains uncorrupted. He lives to serve, not the state first, but to serve God. His faith, serving as my example for all time, is another gift for which I ought be grateful.]

God bless you and yours.