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Free trade's victims turning against Bush, GOP
The Herald Sun ^ | August 25, 2003 | associated press

Posted on 08/25/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT by snopercod

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- This year's highly publicized job losses in North Carolina manufacturing, including the Pillowtex bankruptcy, could mean trouble next year for President Bush in a region that was a stronghold in 2000.

Bush won more than 56 percent of the vote in both North Carolina and South Carolina in 2000. But his strong support of free trade has turned some against him in the South, where U.S. trade policies are blamed for the loss of jobs in textiles and other manufacturing sectors.

Andy Warlick, chief executive officer of Parkdale Mills in Gaston County, said he doubts he will repeat his 2000 vote for Bush next year.

"He made a lot of promises and he hasn't delivered on any of them," Warlick said. "I've had some firsthand experience of him sending down trade and commerce officials, but they're just photo ops. It's empty rhetoric."

Fred Reese, the president of Western N.C. Industries, an employers' association, said executives are beginning to raise their voices against Bush and are planning education and voter drives.

"We're seeing a new dynamic where the executives and employees are both beginning to see a real threat to their interests. You're going to see people who traditionally voted Republican switch over," Reese predicted.

The hard feelings were on display days after Pillowtex's July 30 bankruptcy filing, when Republican U.S. Rep. Robin Hayes walked into a Kannapolis auditorium to meet with former workers.

"Thanks for sending the jobs overseas, Robin!" shouted Brenda Miller, a longtime worker at the textile giant's Salisbury plant.

In December 2001 Hayes -- who is an heir to the Cannon family textile fortune -- cast the tie-breaking vote to give Bush the authority to negotiate "fast-track" trade agreements, trade treaties that Congress must vote up or down with no amendments.

At the time, Hayes said he won promises from the Bush administration that it would more strictly enforce existing trade agreements and pressure foreign countries to open their markets to U.S. textiles.

"Are we pleased with the way they responded? Absolutely," Hayes said. "Are we satisfied with where we are? Absolutely not."

Jobs in many industries have fled overseas since 1993, when Congress passed the Clinton-backed North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA. About half the textile and apparel jobs that existed in 1994 are gone.

Since Bush took office in January 2001, it is estimated North Carolina and South Carolina have lost more than 180,000 manufacturing jobs.

And even more textile jobs could be out the door once quotas on Chinese imports expire at the end of next year.

Republican U.S. Rep. Cass Ballenger voted for NAFTA and fast-track, and has seen his 10th District lose nearly 40,000 jobs, primarily in the textile and furniture industries.

"Certainly, there's a political cost to any controversial vote no matter which side you take," he said. "People are casting stones, but we're trying to pick them up and build something."

Democratic U.S. Sen. John Edwards voted against fast-track in 2002 after voting for an earlier version. In 2000 he voted for permanent normal trade relations with China.

Recently, though, while campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination, Edwards has attacked Bush's trade policies and called for fairer trade measures.

Robert Neal, vice president of the local chapter of the Pillowtex workers' union, said Hayes has worked to try to ease the impact of job losses in his district.

"Though he (Hayes) voted for fast-track, he is really concerned about the workers and their conditions in the state of North Carolina," Neal said.

Not everyone feels that way.

Reese is organizing 1,500 manufacturing companies across North Carolina in an effort to leverage what he calls a new voting bloc.

In South Carolina, voter drives are planned for the first time at Milliken & Co., which has about 30 plants in the state. Mount Vernon Mills of Greenville, S.C., is forming a political action committee.

The company's president Roger Chastain, a one-time Bush voter, doesn't expect to support the president or Jim DeMint, a Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Democrat Ernest Hollings.

"We're basically liquidating our whole middle class, polarizing people on the two extremes, have and have-nots," Chastain said of the manufacturing job losses. "We'll be a Third World country."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: economy; fasttrack; jobs; manufacturing; nafta; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; pillotex; treetrade
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To: FITZ
In the 60's people had more real money, they paid with cash and often their home loan was the only debt they had.

I would love to see you try to pitch this "Return to the Economy of 1960" platform to people.

301 posted on 08/25/2003 7:27:25 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: FITZ
I didn't vote for Perot ---- but I'm wondering if he wasn't the one to vote for ---- at least he did see the value in having some jobs for Americans. I really don't see how leaders have come to the conclusion that Americans don't have to work ---- it seems almost a "let them eat cake" attitude.

So you would rather have voted for Perot and end up with Clinton?

I'm sorry, with everything this country has been through, that is just beyond my understanding.

I am not saying that I would never vote for a third party canidate .. that is if they ever came up with a canidate that I thought could run the WHOLE country ..

But .. There is not a chance in hell I would ever take a chance of having a another Dem in the WH.

302 posted on 08/25/2003 7:28:10 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: jern
Does that make me a "free trader?"

No it makes you a highly confused individual that cannot distinguish the difference between technological progress, which is a good and necessary thing with unfair trade practices and corporate greed, which is a bad thing. IOWs: How do you implicitly equate many thousands of American Workers being laid off so they can be replaced by cheap foreign labor with the advancement of science?

303 posted on 08/25/2003 7:28:33 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: null and void
*sigh* As long as he has a job, he can.

That's a common flaw in logic. You can look and see you still have a job, and that most of your friends are doing okay or at least finding some part time job at Walmart or they managed to get in at McDonalds and think everything is fine. It's not what happens to a handful of people --- who might be lucky or smarter or whatever ---- it's what happens to the majority or even a sizeable number of people.

304 posted on 08/25/2003 7:28:54 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: JNB
Are standards of living declining in America? Let’s compare 1970 to the mid 1990's – a time during which real wages (i.e. wages adjusted for inflation) dropped by 15%. But that is only half of the story, because the real cost of goods and services has also dropped, and today’s average American has more of just about everything! In 1970 the average new home size was 1500 square feet versus 2,150 in the mid 1990's Only 34% of homes had central air conditioning in 1970, but by the mid 1990's it was 81%. 34% of homes had a color TV and 6.3% had cable in 1970, but by the mid 1990s, over 97.9% homes had color TV's and 72.8% had more than two! In 1970 it took 49 minutes of work time to buy gas for a 100 mile trip, while in the mid 1990's it was only 26 minutes. On top of this, all types of new technologies are now available to everyone, ranging from $90 microwave ovens to VCR's for less than $100. In the last 26 years vehicle ownership by people 16 years of age and older has risen from 53 per hundred people to 94 per hundred people. Finally, after adjusting for inflation, the average amount spent on jewelry and watches has more than doubled from 1970 to 1996.

LINK

Granted these statistics come from the mid-90's, but also America suffered heavy recessions in the 70's, and the standard of living went up.

Oh, that's right, things got better under free trader, Ronald Reagan.

All I have to say is thank God, Ronald Reagan didn't have Pat Buchanan as an economic advisor.

305 posted on 08/25/2003 7:28:56 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Texas_Dawg
You are honestly telling me there is not a restaurant, store, home owner, golf course, convenience store, etc., etc., in your area that will not give you a job?? Am I supposed to believe THAT?

T-Dawg, you're missing the bigger point. We are transitioning from a society where most men could get jobs that paid reasonably well to one where they have to settle for convenience store jobs and all those other jobs you suggested. Oh, and their wives have to work now too.

306 posted on 08/25/2003 7:29:13 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Texas_Dawg
I seriously can't wait till Bush and the GOP crushes you people again next November. It is really going to be great.

Ya know what? Most people vote with their wallets. Most elections are swung by less that 5% of the vote. More than 5% of the voters will go into the booth knowing that Dubya was in charge when the lost their job, lost their house and had to file bankrupcy.

Never mind it's not his fault (well, *most* of it isn't his fault, anyway)...

All they will know is they have lost *everything* they worked for and SOMEONE has to PAY.

307 posted on 08/25/2003 7:29:27 PM PDT by null and void
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To: ArneFufkin
He cannot enact laws, but he can lead congress into limiting H1B-visas. He can put this as one of the top things that he is going to do something about.
308 posted on 08/25/2003 7:30:05 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: lelio
Also again do not forget higher levels of proerty taxation as well and again, 1 income familes in the 60s compared to 2 income familes now.
309 posted on 08/25/2003 7:30:08 PM PDT by JNB
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To: Junior_G
T-Dawg, you're missing the bigger point. We are transitioning from a society where most men could get jobs that paid reasonably well to one where they have to settle for convenience store jobs and all those other jobs you suggested. Oh, and their wives have to work now too.

We're all doomed.

310 posted on 08/25/2003 7:30:16 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: null and void
I wasn't talking about most people. I was talking about YOU.
311 posted on 08/25/2003 7:30:52 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: Texas_Dawg; Junior_G
You don't even realize that there are just as many conservatives and people on FR that are making no more than a lot of these people whining about being unemployed (on the freaking internet!) yet they actually believe in conservatism unlike these people whining and blaming George Bush and capitalism for their problems.

I've personally never made more than 20k a year from a job ever! (I currently make a lot less!) I did not inherit any money or win the lottery, but I can retire and live a life of leisure and travel and long before I am 60, if I wish!

I learned along time ago the difference between poor people and rich people. It isn't how much money you make, it is what you do with the money once you get it!

The American Dream is not a job and a home with a two-car garage. "That" is some Socialist Union thugs bait to suck in the masses to pay union dues.

The American Dream is to take the opportunities given to you and run with it, innovate, dream and dare to achieve and make a life for you and your family!

312 posted on 08/25/2003 7:31:42 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Hey, bro... hate to break this to you, but most people like it when the value of their home goes up.

Yes! It means they can pay higher property taxes! People love that!!!

313 posted on 08/25/2003 7:31:59 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Texas_Dawg
You are honestly telling me there is not a restaurant, store, home owner, golf course, convenience store, etc., etc., in your area that will not give you a job??

Do you honestly believe that an engineer or computer programmer should be washing balls at the golf course or working as a dishwasher in a restaurant? I know of some tool-and-die makers who are now cleaning carpets for a living ----- they've worked all their lives with never a layoff---- but the shops are shutting down at a very high rate. I can't see it as a very good thing.

314 posted on 08/25/2003 7:32:12 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Mad Dawgg
The American Dream is to take the opportunities given to you and run with it, innovate, dream and dare to achieve and make a life for you and your family!

You must just hate the Little Man, you Bushbot! You don't know what it's like being from the streets, homey! You ain't never worked a farm, hoss! And so on...

315 posted on 08/25/2003 7:33:06 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: harpseal
I guess that government interference in foreign trade being bad only applies to the US government.

Guess again (I realize you're being facetious). Quoth Reagan, "If one partner shoots a hole in the bottom of the boat, does it make sense for the other partner to shoot another hole in the boat?" Their machinations do impact us all negatively, I just want to avoid compounding the problem.

Now I challenged you before to rpovide some quantitative evidence that a tariff does not provide a net benefit to teh USA

And I tried to explain to you that net benefits cannot be weighed. How do you tell how much wealth I could generate with the money were it not taken in tariffs? How do you tell what businesses I would have funded? How do you count what I couldn't afford, after paying your tariff? It's easy to point at the steel plant and say, "We saved those 4,000 jobs!" It's impossible to see how many jobs are lost in all other industries that consider steel a resource and a cost in the production cycle because the steel they require is more expensive. It's impossible to measure that which doesn't get purchased because the resources to purchase it are taxed away to feed bureaucrats. Anyone puporting to 'show' you otherwise is capitalizing on your naivete and belief that others are possessed of an omniscience you lack.

My faith is in the natural tendency of man to settle his wants by trading effort with other men, and I realize he's better able to do that without bureaucrats riding on his back and being paid to produce nothing. I have seen firsthand the ruin that government management of trade has wrought.

316 posted on 08/25/2003 7:33:53 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Mad Dawgg
The American Dream is to take the opportunities given to you and run with it, innovate, dream and dare to achieve and make a life for you and your family!

I agree.

317 posted on 08/25/2003 7:34:16 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: snopercod
This is the most powerful political dynamic of the next four to six years. Either one of the existing political parties will harness it, or a new one will arise and consign one of the parties (probably the Dems) to the dustbin of history. This force also could very well be a highly destructive one if our current leaders refuse to acknowledge it in its early stages. I truly fear for the Republic in this day and age.
318 posted on 08/25/2003 7:34:24 PM PDT by dirtboy (Press Alt-Ctrl-Del to reset this tagline)
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To: Dane

Find a less biased site please. Also, many Neo-Cons hate to admit this, but one massive reason why the US economy had a boom in the 80s was because of the massive amounts of(although it was indeed needed) defense spending. This alone kept the economy out of a recession in 86. Also another things Neo-Cons hate to admit is the Reagan admin under Sec of Tresury Baker in 85 made agreements with Europe and Japan to devalue the dollar, and the dollar was devalued between 25-35% against European currencies and it was devalued by 50% against the Yen. This was a de facto tariff.
319 posted on 08/25/2003 7:34:27 PM PDT by JNB
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To: null and void
All they will know is they have lost *everything* they worked for and SOMEONE has to PAY.

I understand your point Nully .. but do you really think a Dem will make things better?

If I recall much of the bust of jobs happened due to the Clinton Administration and their policies

320 posted on 08/25/2003 7:34:40 PM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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