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Politics of Porn: Justice Department Launches Long-Anticipated War on Obscenity
ABC News ^ | 9-28-03 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 08/28/2003 2:34:00 PM PDT by Houmatt

Rob Zicari and his fiancée, Janet Romano, are facing the first major federal prosecution for obscenity in more than a decade. They face 10 counts relating to the production and distribution by mail of obscene materials, and each could get 50 years in prison and a fine of up to $2.5 million.

"We're facing more time than the guy that they just arrested that was trying to sell the surface-to-air missile," said Zicari.

On April 8, law enforcement seized five movies produced by Zicari's California-based company, Extreme Associates, which bills itself as "The Hardest Hard Core on the Web."

One of the confiscated movies, Forced Entry, features three graphic scenes of women being spat upon, raped and murdered. Extreme Teens #24 has adult women dressed up and acting like little girls in various hard-core pornographic scenes. We can't even tell you the title of one of the films.

‘There’s Nothing Wrong With What We Do’

Most Americans would probably find the content of the films disgusting. Zicari doesn't disagree — but he says to each his own.

"There's nothing wrong with what we do," said Zicari. "[W]e're not drug dealers or murderers, you know. We make movies. That's it."

But for the Bush administration, that's enough.

"Obscenities have always been a priority of the attorney general," said Mary Beth Buchanan, U.S. attorney for western Pennsylvania. "[A]nd he has asked each U.S. attorney to make that our priority as well."

Buchanan is the lead prosecutor on the case against Zacari. So jurors in Pittsburgh will have to decide if Zicari's movies fit the legal definition of obscenity.

"The material depicted in the videotapes produced by Extreme Associates is extremely vile, degrading and extremely offensive to women," Buchanan said.

The nature of Extreme Associates' movies makes it an ideal target for Attorney General John Ashcroft's Justice Department's opening salvo in its long-anticipated war on obscenity.

Ashcroft had planned on launching the anti-obscenity initiative back in 2001, but was sidetracked by the 9/11 terror attacks. Now the issue is once again a priority for the Justice Department.

"I can tell you that as long as I'm chief of the section, the section will work very hard to prosecute obscenity cases along with child pornography, another important focus for us," said Andrew Oosterbaan, chief of the Justice Department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section.

"This is about a priority for the country. This is something the country wants prosecuted and therefore we're prosecuting it."

Hard to Watch = Difficult to Defend

The Justice Department has chosen its target wisely. Zicari's films are difficult to watch — which may make them difficult to defend.

To meet the legal definition of obscenity, a film has to depict sex in an offensive and prurient fashion with no artistic value. It is this subjectivity that worries some in the industry.

Paul Fishbein, president of Adult Video News, a trade journal for the adult entertainment industry, is well aware of the conflict presented by the films of Extreme Associates. "They're horrible, unwatchable, disgusting, aberrant movies that I'd have to vote were not obscenity because the First Amendment is pure and has to remain pure," he said.

"The funny thing about my business is I don't force it on anybody," said Zicari. "The only people that are going to be forced to watch my movies are the 12 people that sit on that jury."

The Bush administration says that overall, adult films today are far more offensive than ever before. It places much of the blame with the Clinton administration for, it claims, not making obscenity prosecutions a priority.

People inside the multibillion-dollar porn industry say community standards have become more accepting in recent years, pointing to the success of Boogie Nights, a drama about 1970s adult filmmakers, several years ago.

Pleasing the Christian Right

Many anti-obscenity activists are members of the Christian right, a group that generally admires Ashcroft and is a key constituency in President Bush's re-election campaign.

Zicari vows that he'll fight this to the end. But it's unlikely that his prosecution will be the last.

"The current prosecution of Extreme Associates should put the pornography industry on notice that the U.S. Department of Justice is vigorously enforcing the federal obscenity laws," said Buchanan.

Zicari and Romano were arraigned Wednesday in Pittsburgh. Both pleaded not guilty.


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I saw this report last night on Nightline. All I can say is its about damned time.

It goes without saying however Fishbein should be b*tch slapped repeatedly until he wakes up and stops blindly defending the indefensible.

I also hope Zicari and Romano are convicted and given the max. It is precisely their kind of filth that creates and feeds violent sex offenders. That is why this is not a First Amendment issue and they should be held accountable no matter what.

1 posted on 08/28/2003 2:34:00 PM PDT by Houmatt
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To: Houmatt
The material depicted in the videotapes produced by Extreme Associates is extremely vile, degrading and extremely offensive to women

So, is The Man Show next?
2 posted on 08/28/2003 2:37:47 PM PDT by frossca
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To: Houmatt
"We're facing more time than the guy that they just arrested that was trying to sell the surface-to-air missile," said Zicari.

Damn right! A SAM might shoot down Air Force One, but dirty pictures tear the very fabric of our nation. We have to focus on the greater threat!

Note to the sarcastically declined: this is sarcasm

3 posted on 08/28/2003 2:40:50 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: frossca
Well I'm SO glad that the whole silly war on terrorism and those wacky Wall Street guys who wiped out hundreds of billions of dollars have all been dealt with. Now on to the important stuff! [/sarcasm]
4 posted on 08/28/2003 2:41:22 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Houmatt
All I can say is its about damned time.

You said a BAD word....Ashcroft may have to wash your mouth out with soap.....

5 posted on 08/28/2003 2:41:47 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: coloradan
One of the confiscated movies, Forced Entry, features three graphic scenes of women being spat upon, raped and murdered.

Something you may have overlooked (ignored) in crafting your response.

6 posted on 08/28/2003 2:43:23 PM PDT by Houmatt (Hey NY Freepers! Houmatt is here! Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!)
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To: Houmatt
The media is again parroting the "Chrisian Right" thing again, as if people with sensibilities belong to some secret society. You can't get away from the lies and distortions. It's all John Ashcroft's fault and all them damn Bible thumpers that you can't go down and purchase a film depicting vile filth.
7 posted on 08/28/2003 2:43:54 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Houmatt
That's some dangerous thinking. A lot of things could be said to feed sexual violence. What adults choose to do with their own bodies is their own business, and the government has no place meddling with it. (Emphasis on 'adult' and 'their own', so no obfuscatory child porn or abortion arguments, please).
8 posted on 08/28/2003 2:44:06 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Welcome to the Iraq Roach Motel - Islamofascists check in, but they don't check out!)
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To: Orangedog
see post #6
9 posted on 08/28/2003 2:44:12 PM PDT by Houmatt (Hey NY Freepers! Houmatt is here! Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!)
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To: Houmatt
It is precisely their kind of filth that creates and feeds violent sex offenders.

Do you have any scientific proof that exposure to porn turns normal people into sex offenders? Or could it be that those individuals with psychopathology commit acts with or without pornographic material.

10 posted on 08/28/2003 2:46:29 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (If Rudy Bakhtiar had no teeth, could she still lie through her gums?)
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To: Houmatt
If they raped and murdered women, then charge them with rape and murder. If they made a MOVIE with scenes like that in them, then the feds are wasting time and money. Decentcy laws are supposed to judged on community standards...that's state and local, not federal.
11 posted on 08/28/2003 2:46:35 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Houmatt
This is pathetic.

With all the things going on in the world today our DOJ is wasting their time with this crap(no pun)?

These morons need to get their priorities straight.

On September 11th, 2001 more than 60 FBI agents were camped outside the Rainbow Farm in southern Michigan investing their shooting of two Marijuana activists.

Two months ago the Feds revealed that they had been spents 1000's of man hours busting glass blowers and pipe widdlers in Operation Pipe Dream.

Boy do I feel safer.

Do we ever learn?
12 posted on 08/28/2003 2:47:01 PM PDT by opusprime
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To: Houmatt
"To meet the legal definition of obscenity, a film has to depict sex in an offensive and prurient fashion"


"Offensive" = extremely unappealing
"Prurient" = appealing to a base desire

Think about it. "Obscenity" is simply about stopping others from enjoying what you don't.
13 posted on 08/28/2003 2:47:56 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Houmatt
A lot of Hollywood movies also show spittings-upon, rapes, and murders. Hollywood might hide the naughty parts, and there might be a left-wing "plot," but if you wish to see such acts banned outright on film, your net will catch a lot more fish than you intend. And that is a First Amendment issue.
14 posted on 08/28/2003 2:48:25 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: Houmatt
see post #6

Yeah, I saw it.

16 posted on 08/28/2003 2:48:39 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: CholeraJoe
Do you have any scientific proof that exposure to porn turns normal people into sex offenders? Or could it be that those individuals with psychopathology commit acts with or without pornographic material.

Just look at history. The first rape and the first murder didn't occur until the camera was invented. (Or do I have my facts wrong?...:^)...)

17 posted on 08/28/2003 2:50:30 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Houmatt
Yes, we must stop porno films from carrying out suicide bombings and flying airliners into buildings.
I'm glad the Justice Department is spending its effort and my tax money on stopping the threat large breasted women pose to national security.
And meanwhile, the financial wheeler-dealers who have destroyed millions of lives are living well on their country estates. At least they won't be able to watch porno anymore.
18 posted on 08/28/2003 2:52:47 PM PDT by WackyKat
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To: thoughtomator
It is well established that child pornography feeds the habits of pederasts. They watch it to persuade themselves that their sickness is normal, and they use it to persuade their victims to accept such behavior.

The evidence is there, though not as strong (less research) that watching rape movies feeds the habits of rapists, and snuff movies feed the habits of killers. If 10,000 people watch one of these movies, and 5 of those viewers are "inspired" to go out and rape and murder a woman, is that a "fair price to pay" for defending the First Amendment?

I practice First Amendment law. The Supreme Court has tap danced around the issue of pornography for five decades. They have said that pornography is not protected by the First Amendment. And from the description of these three films, wherever the boundary might be between pornography and free speech, these turkeys are beyond it.

I would be concerned if the City Council of Elephant Breath, Nebraska, outlawed Playboy as obscene, I would be concerned. However, that case is NOT this case.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "In the Justices We Trust?" posted on FR, other publication to come.

19 posted on 08/28/2003 2:53:11 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob ("Don't just stand there. Run for Congress." www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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To: #3Fan
Just look at history. The first rape and the first murder didn't occur until the camera was invented.

Oh silly me! You're right. And rapes skyrocketed when VCRs became widely available and got even worse when the Internet boomed.

20 posted on 08/28/2003 2:53:30 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (If Rudy Bakhtiar had no teeth, could she still lie through her gums?)
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