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MUST READ: MORE OF THE SAME IN BALTIMORE (RNC Research)
Republican National Committee from democRAT Debate hosted by Fox News, Sep 2003 ^ | Sep 9, 2003 (11:29 p.m. email) | RNC Research

Posted on 09/10/2003 8:53:47 AM PDT by PhiKapMom

September 9, 2003

MORE OF THE SAME IN BALTIMORE

Angry Attacks, Shrill Protest And Political Hate Speech

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DEM ATTACKS

DEAN: Iraq Is “Battle Created By President.” “This is a battle for terrorism all right. It's a battle created by the President of the United States who ignored the greater danger in Iran and North Korea and al Qaeda at home to do it. This was a mistake, this war, and the President has gotten into it, now we're going to have to get out of it.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

KERRY: President Was Negligent By Rushing To War. “This president rushed to war against the advice of many in this country. He clearly didn't plan for the peace. And it's extraordinary, it's an act of negligence of remarkable proportions.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

GEPHARDT: President “Needs To Get Help.” “This President’s foreign policy is a miserable failure. He has failed the American people and he’s failing the people in Iraq. He needs to get help. We’ve got our young people over there being hurt. We’ve got people over there being injured and killed.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

GRAHAM: President “Intentionally Misled” Americans. Ed Gordon: “[I]n your heart, do you believe that the President intentionally misled the American people?” Graham: “Yes. I was a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee for 10 years, chairman the last two years during the investigation into 9-11. The President knew or should have known, for instance, that the materials that he alleged were going to be used to rebuild Iraq’s nuclear weaponry …” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

DEAN: President Took “18-Month Holiday” From Peace Process. “If we want peace in the Middle East, we need first not to do what this President did, which is to give this whole matter an 18-month holiday and pay no attention at all for the first 18 months of his term.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

KERRY: “Serious Suspicions” On President’s Involvement In Policy Formation. “There are serious suspicions about the level to which this President really was involved in asking the questions that he should have.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

GEPHARDT: Bush’s Performance In Iraq Is “Abomination.” “It is an abomination that he has not gotten our country and our troops the help that we need.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

GEPHARDT: Bush Has One Idea, “Tax Cuts For The Wealthiest Americans.” “[The President] only has one idea in his head -- tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, followed by tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, followed by tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

EDWARDS: President Is Leaving “Kids Behind.” “This ‘No Child Left Behind’? This President is leaving millions of kids behind every single day.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

KERRY: Bush “Walked Away” From African-Americans. “We have a President who’s walked away from them [African-American children], broken his promise and refused to fund ‘No Child Left Behind’.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

LIEBERMAN: Bush Is “Most Fiscally Irresponsible President” Ever. “[L]et me state it straight out. George Bush is the most fiscally irresponsible President in the history of the United States of America.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

LIEBERMAN: African-American Community Suffered Because Of Bush. “No community has suffered more from the fiscal irresponsibility of George W. Bush than the African-American community. Hey, it began before he was President. In the denial his team carried out in Florida for African-American voters who were trying to go to the polls and help elect Al Gore and me.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

EDWARDS: The President Is “Hazardous To Your Health.” “This President … is cutting funding, every single day for programs like prescription drug benefit. This is a President who says we can’t do anything about the healthcare crisis in America. This is a President who blocked the patients’ bill of rights. Here’s what we ought to do. We ought to go over to the White House and hang a big warning sign on the door of the White House that says, ‘this President is hazardous to your health.’ that’s what we ought to do.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

KERRY: Bush’s Economic Development Program Is In Baghdad. “I’m glad the President finally found an economic development program. I’m just sad that it’s only in Baghdad.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

DEAN: Bush “Played Race Card.”

“[T]he President of the United States essentially played the race card when he described the University of Michigan affirmative action program. And for that reason alone he deserves a one-way bus ticket back to Crawford, Texas.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

LIEBERMAN: Bush “Compromised” American Dream. “I said when I declared my candidacy for President that I was running to keep the American dream alive, the dream that has been compromised by George W. Bush so badly …” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

LIEBERMAN: African-Americans Not Allowed To Vote In Florida. “It pains me to look back to 2000 and realize that though we eliminated the laws that stopped African-Americans from voting, [but] they still were not allowed to vote in the state of Florida.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

GEPHARDT: “Like Father, Like Son, Four Years And He’s Done.” “We need to beat George Bush. You know, I have a saying these days, ‘Like father, like son, four years and he’s done.’ We’re going to get rid of George Bush.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

KERRY: Bush “Behaves Like Jefferson Davis.” “This is the biggest say-one-thing-do-another Administration in all time. The President says one thing about children, does another, one thing about taxes, does another, about housing, about the war, about--goes to Goree Island, spends a few minutes, behaves like Abraham Lincoln, goes to South Carolina, behaves like Jefferson Davis on the Confederate flag. We deserve a president of the United States who will write laws for all Americans, not for campaign contributors.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

LIEBERMAN: Bush Is “Worse Nightmare.” “The Presidency of Bush has been a worse nightmare than even Al and I warned America about.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)


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This MUST READ article needs widespread distribution. These statements are examples of the hate-filled rhetoric from the DemocRAT candidates who Bush-Cheney are up against in the 2004 election.

Some Freepers are griping and very negative about President Bush on here, but stop and think -- all you are doing is giving these DemocRAT Presidential candidates more ammunition to use against him. If that is your goal, keep it up!

To everyone else, think before you post anything negative -- do not be a party to helping the RATs. This is going to be one nasty campaign. I am not trying to stifle anyone's complaints before you flame me for that. I am asking all of you to think and be reasonable when criticizing the President from now until November 2004! Do not give aid and comfort to the enemy which at this point in time is THE CLINTON democRAT PARTY CANDIDATES!

We cannot afford to have any of these people elected as President -- please do your part to make sure their eventual nominee goes down to defeat in November 2004!

1 posted on 09/10/2003 8:53:48 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
One million dead iraqis thank you, Dean, for your support.
2 posted on 09/10/2003 8:57:26 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: MeeknMing; onyx; JohnHuang2; Dog Gone; Dog; isthisnickcool; OKSooner; VOA; mhking; ...
Did not watch this debate because I wanted to make sure I slept last night. This email from RNC Research gives the highlights of the attacks on the President. These democRAT candidates do not for the most part attack each other, they attack the President to see who can get their liberal base riled up the most! An Elephant Never Forgets so we are all going to be reminding the DemocRATs of their rhetoric they are using today in the campaign for President!

Please disseminate this to everyone you know! We need to spread the word of just how mean and nasty these democRAT candidates are and how bad they would be for America.

If you would like on or off this Bush-Cheney ping list, please let me know. It will be used for Countdown to Victory 2004 (returning shortly after having my computer hit with a virus) and for the RNC Research articles!

Thanks for all your help in helping reelect Bush-Cheney in '04! Click on the Elephant below to go to the new website of Bush-Cheney '04!

BUSH + CHENEY = VICTORY '04

3 posted on 09/10/2003 9:03:16 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too! Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: MeeknMing; onyx; JohnHuang2; Dog Gone; Dog; isthisnickcool; OKSooner; VOA; mhking; ...
Did not watch this debate because I wanted to make sure I slept last night. This email from RNC Research gives the highlights of the attacks on the President. These democRAT candidates do not for the most part attack each other, they attack the President to see who can get their liberal base riled up the most! An Elephant Never Forgets so we are all going to be reminding the DemocRATs of their rhetoric they are using today in the campaign for President!

Please disseminate this to everyone you know! We need to spread the word of just how mean and nasty these democRAT candidates are and how bad they would be for America.

If you would like on or off this Bush-Cheney ping list, please let me know. It will be used for Countdown to Victory 2004 (returning shortly after having my computer hit with a virus) and for the RNC Research articles!

Thanks for all your help in helping reelect Bush-Cheney in '04! Click on the Elephant below to go to the new website of Bush-Cheney '04!

BUSH + CHENEY = VICTORY '04

4 posted on 09/10/2003 9:03:28 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too! Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: PhiKapMom
BUMP!
5 posted on 09/10/2003 9:04:02 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: PhiKapMom
Imagine this: what they're really trying to do here is win a hate America contest.
6 posted on 09/10/2003 9:04:06 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: All
Sorry for the double ping -- I hit post the first time and nothing happened at all so I hit it again. Guess you could say getting two pings is better than none!

Have a good one!
7 posted on 09/10/2003 9:04:54 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too! Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: richardtavor
It boggles my mind to see the comments of Dean and realize that he is their frontrunner! Scarey man if you ask me! Your comment is right on target!
8 posted on 09/10/2003 9:05:43 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too! Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Watching the debate last night, I realized just how dangerous Howard Dean can be if he becomes the Dem candidate. Kerry's too boring for the general election, Lieberman is too moderate for the primaries. Dean can go to the left in the primaries and then run down the center. He's a good, witty, aggressive public speaker with the ability to toss out one-liners (the Trent Lott comment last night was pretty funny).

We shouldn't underestimate Dean- his debate performances are good. He's Clintonian, without the skirtchasing. The man is dangerous.

Funniest comments of the night came from Al Sharpton, though, when he threatened to sic some of his homeboys on the LaRouche disruptors.

9 posted on 09/10/2003 9:06:16 AM PDT by Modernman
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To: PhiKapMom
Good solid thread. Thanks for starting it.
10 posted on 09/10/2003 9:07:37 AM PDT by Judith Anne (For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: jmaroneps37
Can you believe their HATE AMERICA rhetoric? It is beyond anything I have ever read about a debate!

If you follow the link where this is posted at RNC, you will get to hear Gephardt launching a truly hate-filled speech at the President.

These candidates except for Al Sharpton send chills up my spine! I cannot help it -- he is so far out he makes me laugh with his comments! There is only one Rev Al!
11 posted on 09/10/2003 9:07:48 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too! Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Ok, Dean, do you want to go to war with Korea and Iran? Huh? What's your plan? Send over Jimmy Carter?
12 posted on 09/10/2003 9:11:56 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle (uo)
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To: PhiKapMom
The follow up question after these clowns make these remarks is, "So what is your detailed plan to protect America?", and to remind them that the Algore solution to 911 was to have all Americans prostrate themselves on a mat during "Call to Prayers". They don't have an answer because the only reason a politician makes a verbal assault on another candidate is because the politician doesn't want the public to know that they don't have a solution to the problem.
13 posted on 09/10/2003 9:12:15 AM PDT by OrioleFan
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To: PhiKapMom
It is absolutely disgusting the way the Dems voted to authorize this war and now are doing everything they can to undermine it.
14 posted on 09/10/2003 9:15:43 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle (uo)
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To: PhiKapMom
No offense meant, but pardon me while I puke. These are honourable men, the cream of the crop?????

BWAHAHAHAHahahahahahahahaaa!

15 posted on 09/10/2003 9:15:46 AM PDT by 4CJ (Come along chihuahua, I want to hear you say yo quiero taco bell. - Nolu Chan, 28 Jul 2003)
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To: Modernman; All
I think Dean is dangerous too! Just received this email from AOL Update Mail that shows Edwards going after Dean:

Edwards Critical of Dean Over Race Remark

By NEDRA PICKLER
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrat Howard Dean's claim that he is the only white politician who talks about race to white audiences drew criticism Wednesday from his presidential rivals. Sen. John Edwards said the entire field discusses racial issues on the campaign trail.

``I think what Howard Dean said last night does a disservice to everyone he stood next to and all the people before us who have raised this issue over and over again in front of all audiences,'' the North Carolina lawmaker said one day after the nine candidates debated in Baltimore.

Dean, defending himself against criticism that his supporters are mostly white, told the predominantly black debate crowd, ``I'm the only white politician that ever talks about race in front of white audiences.''

Dean was wrong.

Edwards urges racial tolerance in nearly ever speech he gives on the campaign trail, including addresses to white crowds. Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut talks about his efforts as a student during the 1960s civil rights movement. Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts has discussed race and its role in his Vietnam service.

``What he said last night was divisive and divisive is exactly what we're trying to overcome. He's right about one thing, politicians should talk about civil rights wherever they go. And in the future, I hope he leads by example instead of by attack,'' Edwards said in a telephone interview.

``Sen. Lieberman marched with Martin Luther King. Sen. Kerry talks about his experience in Vietnam. I grew up in the segregated South. Fighting for civil rights is part of who I am which is why I talked about it in front of every audience and whoever I'm with,'' he said.

The North Carolina lawmaker had avoided attacking his rivals until Wednesday, but his criticism is another sign that Dean's eight rivals are throwing elbows at the front-runner in an effort to force their way to the front.

``Governor Dean's statement was as false as it was inflammatory,'' said Jim Jordan, campaign manager for Kerry. ``John Kerry has been speaking out bluntly, in front of all audiences, on the issues of race relations and discrimination since he became a pubic figure more than 30 years ago.''

In previous appearances together, the candidates have looked more like a ragtag team of underdogs hankering to make the big leagues and take on President Bush. The sharpest barbs have been aimed at the president, while the candidates largely have avoided challenging each other by name.

Not so Tuesday night at a debate sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus. Some of the sharpest exchanges were between front-runner Dean and Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential nominee in 2000.

Lieberman said comments Dean made last week about the Middle East ``break a 50-year record in which presidents, Republicans and Democrats, members of Congress of both parties have supported our relationship with Israel.''

The former Vermont governor responded that his position was the same as former President Clinton's, and Lieberman, who is Jewish, interrupted by saying, ``Not right ... not right.''

``It doesn't help, Joe, to demagogue this issue,'' Dean replied.

And so the gloves were off.

Several other Democrats said Lieberman's performance illustrated why his rivals shied away from attacking Dean, even at the risk of allowing Dean to build on the momentum he developed over the summer.

``It basically sounded shrill to me,'' said Joe Shanahan, veteran Democratic activist in Iowa. ``Lieberman didn't make his point well, and Dean responded strongly.''

One candidate who didn't take on Dean was the one who may be most threatened by him, Kerry. Dean has taken over Kerry's early lead in the early primary state of New Hampshire. Kerry has decided not to go negative now, although some of his supporters and even some advisers have been pressing him to do so.

The debate was at Morgan State University, a historically black college, and the Democrats took pains to stress their support for civil rights and other concerns to blacks - although Al Sharpton said black voters shouldn't allow themselves to be taken for granted.

``We need to correct the party so we can beat Bush with one expanded pie,'' he said in remarks critical of what he sees as Democratic inattentiveness to black concerns.

But international affairs dominated the debate. It opened with questions on Iraq, and some of the candidates tried to maintain their focus on Bush by criticizing his handling of the postwar reconstruction.

But those who opposed Bush's attack on Iraq put some of the blame on their fellow Democratic candidates who voted for the war resolution - Kerry, Lieberman, Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and Missouri Rep. Dick Gephardt.

Without mentioning any names, Sen. Bob Graham of Florida said they handed Bush ``a blank check.'' Former Illinois Sen. Carol Moseley Braun said they gave the president ``the right to go on a free-for-all.''

Sharpton threw one of Gephardt's favorite lines - that Bush's foreign policy is a ``miserable failure'' - back at him and the other war supporters.

``I've never heard of people acting like they didn't know we needed an exit when we gave him an entrance,'' Sharpton said. ``That is a miserable failure for us to allow this president to play these kinds of games.''

09/10/03 11:08 EDT

(My bold and underline)

16 posted on 09/10/2003 9:16:07 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too! Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: PhiKapMom
What a pathetic bunch of pandering weasels.
17 posted on 09/10/2003 9:17:23 AM PDT by slimer (i'm mad as hell and i'm not going to take it anymore!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Did not watch this debate because I wanted to make sure I slept last night.

You didn't miss much .. The 9 clowns offered nothing to the table of who would be a better dem candidate .. all they did was bash Bush

I heard on the news this morning that the other 8 clowns were very upset with the lies that Dean was spewing .. wonder if they will doing anything about it or just continue to try and be like Dean?

18 posted on 09/10/2003 9:21:57 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: PhiKapMom
I'm glad I didn't waych that debate since all they seem to be doing is bashing President Bush instead of letting the people know what they indend to do to "fix" things IF they REALLY NEED fixing. There's no difference in my opinion between those dems.

how can it be possoble for ANYONE to have such MALICE and HATRED for this good man id beyond me!

19 posted on 09/10/2003 9:23:16 AM PDT by Pippin (Bush/Cheney in '04)
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To: PhiKapMom
That free=for=all grouping of the nasty nine, anti-American democrats running for *gasp* president, was entirely too painful and too digusting to watch from its pitiful beginning (that horrendous intro by radical, subversive congressman Cummings) to its tedious, hate-filled end.

I had to mute several of them, but their nasty attacks on a man whom none of them can match, nonetheless scrolled across the screen.

I am thankful that Americans who suffered through the looooong debate hosted by Brit Hume, were at least able to see for themselves that the Black Caucus is NOT ready for Prime Time. What a laugher. These folks are so far outside mainstream America. The audience and the candidates were a perfect match made in Hell.

To even try to imagine any of the candidates in the roll of Commander-in-Chief, should give every American voter all the motivation necessary to go to the polls to re-elect President Bush.

These are dangerous times, too dangerous to even consider replacing POTUS with any of the cretins who embarrassed themselves on that stage last night.

God save us from democrats.

20 posted on 09/10/2003 9:26:03 AM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx
To even try to imagine any of the candidates in the roll of Commander-in-Chief, should give every American voter all the motivation necessary to go to the polls to re-elect President Bush.

Dean was scary-good last night. I fear what he'll be like if he gets the nomination and can run down the middle. I think he's the only Dem who can beat Bush.

21 posted on 09/10/2003 9:29:49 AM PDT by Modernman
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To: Modernman
"scary good" must be like "beauty" (in the eye of the beholder).

Dean can try to run down the middle, but unless POTUS and the RNC permit it, Dean hasn't a viable chance of doing that, given his record as governor of Vermont.

He's too mean, too vituperative and far too left of center for the vast majority of voters. People always elect the most "likeable" person, and Dean is the opposite of "likeable."
22 posted on 09/10/2003 9:38:26 AM PDT by onyx
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To: PhiKapMom
The debate was pathetic. Strangely enough, if I had to spend a weekend with a couple of these guys, without any political talk and just fishing maybe, it would be Lieberman and Sharpton.
23 posted on 09/10/2003 9:41:37 AM PDT by spiffy
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To: onyx
Dean can try to run down the middle, but unless POTUS and the RNC permit it, Dean hasn't a viable chance of doing that, given his record as governor of Vermont.

I'm just having nightmare flashbacks to another small-state liberal who ran against an incumbent Bush-President.

This time, though, our side has learned its lessons. We got beat twice by Clinton. We're not going to be beaten by Clinton-lite (I hope).

24 posted on 09/10/2003 9:46:08 AM PDT by Modernman
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To: PhiKapMom
After seeing these breathing cliche's last night, I'm convinced they are just paving the way for the witch to fly in on her broom and announce she's gonna run against Bush.
25 posted on 09/10/2003 9:47:18 AM PDT by hope (So many Hollywood has beens trying to make a comeback in Gay Paris!)
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To: PhiKapMom


"A presidential executive order issued during the Clinton
administration hamstrung the FBI so badly that bureau
lawyers decided it would be illegal to infiltrate Osama bin
Laden's terrorist training camps in Afghanistan, a senior
FBI official during the Clinton administration said Saturday."
(June 1, 2002)


____________________
"I don't believe 9-11 happened because of an intelligence breach," Quayle told Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."
"I think it was really a policy breach. It was the inaction of the previous administration, by and large, that al Qaeda -- and bin Laden in particular -- thought that they could hit the United States, and there would be a retaliation maybe of a cruise missile but nothing more than that," he explained.

The comments make the former vice president, who served under President Bush's father from 1989 to 1993, the highest ranking former U.S. official to suggest that the Clinton administration should get the lion's share of the blame for not preventing the 9-11 attacks.

26 posted on 09/10/2003 9:47:32 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: spiffy
Strangely enough, if I had to spend a weekend with a couple of these guys, without any political talk and just fishing maybe, it would be Lieberman and Sharpton.

I know what you mean. I have this weird feeling that Sharpton's a good cook and knows some really funny dirty jokes. Lieberman seems like a decent-enough guy who you can kick back and have a beer with.

But, geez, imagine being stuck on a boat with Kerry and Dean. One's boring, the other's a raging jackass.

27 posted on 09/10/2003 9:49:11 AM PDT by Modernman
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To: Modernman; PhiKapMom; yall
Funniest comments of the night came from Al Sharpton, though, when he
threatened to sic some of his homeboys on the LaRouche disruptors.

Hey, I'm votin' for ole Al, I tell ya !! ...


"If I can slap this donkey I can make it kick George Bush
out of the White House."--Al Sharpton

... not !!! :O)


28 posted on 09/10/2003 9:51:11 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: Modernman
Hey, I'm not stalking you, really! You're just hitting
on some of my favorite subjects today on this thread ...


Above is the REAL Frankenstein!
Click HERE to see the DNC's Bushenstein
(Barf Alert!)

http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2002/07/20020703_a_main.asp

Listen

Howard Dean

Howard Dean


Howard Dean says he's running for President, and on paper he's quite a candidate.

He's the longest-serving Democratic governor. He signed the first law in the country to allow gay unions. And, he's got the endorsement of America's favorite president-that-isn't: Martin Sheen.

In real life, most Americans would pass Howard Dean on the street without a second glance. Can a candidate with just about zero national name-recognition actually make a viable run for the nation's highest office? Tonight, Howard Dean, the invisible candidate.

29 posted on 09/10/2003 9:54:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: PhiKapMom
Did not watch this debate because I wanted to make sure I slept last night.

You missed a group of lying, pandering blithering idiots! This debate was a Bush bash set up by the black caucus, using Britt Hume in a cheap attempt to add some semblance of credibility. You missed nothing.

IMHO The dims shot themselves in the foot, by putting on display, their anti-american blathering!!

30 posted on 09/10/2003 10:00:50 AM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: Modernman
Agree, completely! Dean is dangerous and the Repubs should not dismiss him or underestimate him. He is good at saying what people want to hear and he can be "charming". The only hope is that he will show his true colors and explode when (IF)he is pushed by some reporter. But doubt this will happen since he is the darling of most of the liberal media. Also waiting for some reporter with guts to ask Sharpton why he is not a liar or gang leader considering his role in the Tawana Brawley incident.
31 posted on 09/10/2003 10:04:45 AM PDT by 4integrity (AJ)
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To: MeeknMing
Oh my GOD! The likeliness is incredible. This finally answers a LOT of questions. Thanks!
32 posted on 09/10/2003 10:20:28 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Where is the outrage?!)
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To: PhiKapMom
About all that's missing is "Bush's momma is ugly". But I expect they will attack George H. and Barbara soon enough.
33 posted on 09/10/2003 10:23:03 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: spiffy
I agree with you LIEberman and Sharpton as the only two that I could spend any time with at all. Our paper even had before seven of the candidates came to a forum in OK that Rev Al was going to make people laugh. Unfortunately, he didn't show up!
34 posted on 09/10/2003 10:25:30 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too! Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: Modernman
Remember Dukakis and how the media played him up as middle of the road in the general election -- didn't work -- Flyover Country where I live sent him packing!

Think America is smarter after eight, long miserable years of the Clintons. The Clintons donate to a candidate here if Flyover Country and the Republican rakes in big money! That speaks volumes!
35 posted on 09/10/2003 10:27:01 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too! Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: woodyinscc
Wonder why Brit Hume and Fox News decided to throw in with this debate? Sure didn't do much for their credibility the way they hyped the debate, and covered it afterward. Getting tired of seeing clips of Dean and the rest go on endlessly!
36 posted on 09/10/2003 10:28:43 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too! Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: Senator_Blutarski
I bet you are absolutely correct -- The senior Bush's will be next!
37 posted on 09/10/2003 10:29:24 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too! Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: PhiKapMom
KERRY: Bush “Walked Away” From African-Americans. “We have a President who’s walked away from them [African-American children], broken his promise and refused to fund ‘No Child Left Behind’.” (Democrat Candidates Debate, Baltimore, MD, 9/9/03)

It is remarkable, just stunning really, that the Dim candidates, and many other Dim Congress critters, just have no compunction or hesitation at all about telling flat-out, unequivocal lies. They even lie about the President lying by lying about what the President said, i.e. a triple lie.

In this example (but one of many) it is, first of all, CONGRESS (of which Kerry is a member!) that does the funding, not the President. Secondly, though I don't have the exact figures to hand, "leave no child behind" HAS been funded, to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars. To say it hasn't been funded, or that anyone "has refused" to fund it, is a lie. I'm not saying that it might be a lie, or there are interpretations under which it might be considered a lie; it is IN FACT a lie. There is no ambiguity at all that it is a lie. Kerry surely knows what funding has been approved (by CONGRESS!) on the matter, and he has consciously chosen to lie about it.

What Kerry apparently means (if I have this clear) is that the money appropriated in the budget did not reach the maximum amount that the bill, now law, allowed. Again, I don't remember the exact figures, but it was something along the line of the bill allowing, say, 16 billion dollars, and only 12 billion being appropriated.

All Kerry had to do was say "fully fund," which still would have been deeply misleading, but would not have been a bald, outright lie. Kerry chose to lie, and the press will never call him on it. The press repeatedly treats these unequivocal lies as if they were just matters of interpretation, or point to counterpoint. IT'S MADDENING!!!

38 posted on 09/10/2003 10:38:39 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Modernman
"Lieberman seems like a decent-enough guy who you can kick back and have a beer with."

Probably not a beer, but maybe a bagel.
39 posted on 09/10/2003 10:44:10 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle (uo)
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To: 4integrity
Dean is dangerous and the Repubs should not dismiss him or underestimate him.

You got it. I still remember how Gore was going to be "trounced" in the first hour of election day, and how Hillary would "never stand a chance" at the Senate. We cannot afford to underestimate Dean and the Dems, nor the sheer stupidity, gullibility, and gimme-ness of too many voters. Whenever I see predictions of a Reaganesque landslide in '04, I get very uncomfortable.

40 posted on 09/10/2003 10:49:07 AM PDT by workerbee
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To: PhiKapMom
Did not watch this debate because I wanted to make sure I slept last night. This email from RNC Research gives the highlights of the attacks on the President. These democRAT candidates do not for the most part attack each other, they attack the President to see who can get their liberal base riled up the most! An Elephant Never Forgets so we are all going to be reminding the DemocRATs of their rhetoric they are using today in the campaign for President!


I watched about 30 minutes and only because it was on FNC and Brit Hume was the moderator. I came to the conclusion that the 9 clowns are planning to share the presidency, should the president lose his re-election, which of course he will not, as they did not debate each other, but just bashed the president
41 posted on 09/10/2003 10:53:26 AM PDT by Kaslin (Advice to Hillary. Please engage brain before opening mouth)
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To: Modernman
It's important to remember that Dean has only gained traction by appealing to the lowly base of the democrat party; i.e. the Bush haters.

While the left-wing media (aka "the self-described mainstream media") finds itself intrigued and bouyed by Dean's popularity, they know he is the GOP's favored candidate to oppose POTUS.

In other words, they like him, but they also realize he's another Mondale vs Reagan. Dean is destined to be a big time reject by voters across the board.

I say to democrats, "bring him on, please nominate Dean!"
42 posted on 09/10/2003 10:55:37 AM PDT by onyx
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To: PhiKapMom
Sure didn't do much for their credibility the way they hyped the debate, and covered it afterward

The ratings game, You are right, Fox probably sacrificed long term gains. This debate deserved to be associated with CNN, right in the gutter!

43 posted on 09/10/2003 11:00:53 AM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: PhiKapMom
Thank you for posting the RNC updates. I receive the e-mail, but seeing your personal post and the reading the responses adds a richness and sense of fellowship.

The Dems. have gone too far. I will not listen to them anymore, but simply respond with facts, numbers, thank you letters from Iraq and Goebbels propaganda archives - that match so closely the divisive rhetoric used by this anti-American party today.

44 posted on 09/10/2003 11:06:08 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("We rebuilt the Pentagon ~ better than it was before. That's the American way." * P. Wolfowitz * 9/9)
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To: woodyinscc
The ratings game, You are right, Fox probably sacrificed long term gains.

A worthy sacrifice if so, IMHO. Many new eyes and ears were exposed to the odious dwarves as a result of this being on FOX, whose audience is more conservative, middle-of-the-road or fly-over-country-traditionalist. The lefties who tuned in would tend to already be committed activists. Thus more Republicans than Dims will be energized. A miscalculation by the CBC here, as others have argued.

45 posted on 09/10/2003 11:08:13 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: PhiKapMom
Thanks PKMom, I had to turn those howling jackels off last night and watch and old Rita (Gilda) Hayworth movie ~ to hard on the BP. :):)
46 posted on 09/10/2003 11:12:47 AM PDT by blackie
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To: Made In The USA
It really is an incredibly striking resemblance, isn't it ?? LOL ! ...

On a different topic, here's another one. Cruz Bustamante and Mr. Spacely ...

i had another pic (a BETTER one) of mr. spacely that i borrowed,
but now that website is under construction, dog gone it ...


47 posted on 09/10/2003 11:29:28 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: PhiKapMom
What is this crap about not letting people vote in FL? What a bunch of liars these people are. Just reading this pisses me off considerably. Argghhhhhhhh! I can't read this junk.
48 posted on 09/10/2003 11:40:57 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: PhiKapMom
Aaaahhhhh!!! Now my blood is really boiling! They are such cowardly liars who put their ambition ahead of the security of this nation.

I did not watch the debate. Throwing dishes at the television would have resulted.

Thanks for the ping, anyway.
49 posted on 09/10/2003 11:49:59 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Do not wring or twist.)
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To: OrioleFan
the only reason a politician makes a verbal assault on another candidate is because the politician doesn't want the public to know that they don't have a solution to the problem.

BUMP!

50 posted on 09/10/2003 12:24:28 PM PDT by StriperSniper (The slippery slope is getting steeper.)
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