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| 9-11-03
| Jon Dougherty
Posted on 09/10/2003 11:30:00 PM PDT by JustPiper
Caller to radio talk show: Pay Mexico for Southwest or else
A caller to a West Coast talk show who claimed membership in a militant Latino group says the U.S. must acknowledge much of the Southwest belongs to Mexico and pay the proper amount for it or else.
The caller, who identified himself only as "Louis," made his remarks on KSFO's Barbara Simpson show, which is broadcast in San Francisco, Aug. 31. According to Simpson, the man claimed he was from Los Angeles.
Simpson, who writes a weekly column for WorldNetDaily, said Louis called into the program directly after she had been discussing the "influence of militant Hispanics on California public policy and public attitudes," as well as the state's gubernatorial recall election and what effect a victory by Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante might have on that attitude.
To make her case, Simpson said she referenced a column written by Hector Carreon, of the website La Voz de Aztlan. In it, Carreon was describing the "arrest" of "anti-Mexican vigilante Glenn Spencer."
Spencer is founder of American Border Patrol, an immigration reform group that uses high-tech surveillance to monitor illegal aliens crossing the Arizona-Mexico border. As WorldNetDaily reported, he was arrested Aug. 2 at his home in Sierra Vista, Ariz., on gun-related charges.
Spencer told WorldNetDaily this week it is his "understanding" he has been cleared of most of those charges, though a charge of disturbing the peace is pending. He said he could not provide further details, on instruction of counsel.
On her program, Simpson went on to say the Carreon column was written "with verbiage clearly chosen to incite anger and racism." She said it describes Spencer as a "vehement racist
leader of the xenophobic organization called American Border Patrol
whose primary mission is to carry out clandestine 'hunting operations' of undocumented Mexican workers crossing the border.
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Simpson said shortly after she began discussing the column, she received a call on the air from Spencer, who said he had been listening to her program via the Internet. Spencer relayed the information regarding his charges.
He also said last week five illegal aliens showed up on his property wanting to use his telephone. Shortly after their visit, sheriff's deputies pulled up to his home and told him someone had reported that he had pulled a gun on the illegals.
Spencer said an associate had videotaped the incident, which showed the report to be untrue. No charges were filed, he said, and the illegals were taken into custody. He said he believes the incident was staged by a third party in an attempt to frame him.
After Spencer told Simpson of his group's latest technology and plans to deploy along the border to observe illegal crossings, he hung up the phone. But within moments, Simpson said, Louis called.
He told her his name and said he belongs to an organization closely related to MEChA, an organization critics say has distinct anti-American viewpoints. Bustamante, the leading Democrat in the Oct. 7 recall election, has ties to MEChA.
Louis "said he was glad to learn of Spencer's plans" because his group planned to disrupt them, Simpson said.
She also explained Louis told her on the air "the purpose of his group" was to publicize the viewpoint "that Anglos have the land of the southwest illegally, that they never had a contract for it even though, he said, some money changed hands. [He said] it was simply not enough."
Simpson said Louis claimed his group did not recognize the U.S./Mexico border and that "they want the U.S. to acknowledge that the land belongs to Mexico and pay the proper amount for it and if [done] soon, they will do us no harm."
As for Spencer, he told WorldNetDaily in the past he believes he has been targeted by groups opposed to his border-protection activities.
"There have been instances that were suspicious, but it is dangerous to make claims that turn out to be false," he said.
"As far as the (recent) burglary and subsequent trespass and I am convinced there was one are concerned, I am convinced we were targeted specifically," said Spencer. "If there was ever a set up, that was one."
Spencer said the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil-rights legal group, is keeping an eye on his activities.
"They have said so," he said. "They are ready to pounce at the first opportunity," but he added the group's founder, Morris Dees, "probably wouldn't take the chance of staging a set up."
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: demands; immigrantlist; immigration; latinos; mexico; radio; threats
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To: JustPiper
Caller to radio talk show: Pay Mexico for Southwest or else Ok ANYONE ELSE want some cash just suck on the great giant government teat...
See what all this silly reparations talk brings about.
81
posted on
09/11/2003 3:29:40 PM PDT
by
Terriergal
("multipass!")
To: TLI
They will bounce their lowriders till they beat a pothole in the road?
Cost: $600 per Pothole
They will play the polka from Pluto till 3 am?
Cost: Trillions
They will try to vote for a dem?
Cost Free
They will send their money out of the country?
Cost Trillions
They will "decorate" their streets and store to look like Larado, southwest of the bridge?
Cost $1
They will speak spanglish in public and act like they dont understand english?
Cost Zero
Deporting Them:
Priceless
82
posted on
09/11/2003 3:31:29 PM PDT
by
JustPiper
( FREEREPUBLIC.COM is the ONLY Fair and Balanced News!!!)
To: Missouri
Congrads!!! I wanna do it with Blago in Ill.! Know I know WHY our abbreviation is ILL!
83
posted on
09/11/2003 3:32:28 PM PDT
by
JustPiper
( FREEREPUBLIC.COM is the ONLY Fair and Balanced News!!!)
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To: eloy
Excellent point! I would love to hear that addressed by Bush and or the Office of Homeland Security.
To: JustPiper
re your post no. 69...
Here is an article snippet from the original article posted: "To make her case, Simpson said she referenced a column written by Hector Carreon, of the website La Voz de Aztlan. In it, Carreon was describing the "arrest" of "anti-Mexican vigilante Glenn Spencer.""
Now, the link I posted was a reference link.
For further reference, when a Taliban article comes on and I post Taliban links, when an Al-Qaeda article comes out and I post Al-Qaeda links; they are all REFERENCE LINKS for people who are interested in looking at these groups and reading THEIR PROPAGANDA IN THEIR OWN WORDS.
Hope this clarifies it.
86
posted on
09/11/2003 3:59:33 PM PDT
by
Cindy
To: JustPiper
Art Torres represents Mexico, not California, and definately not the constitution.
87
posted on
09/11/2003 4:00:55 PM PDT
by
Pro-Bush
(Awareness is what you know before you know anything else.)
To: JustPiper
Interesting discussion.
Thanks for the ping.
88
posted on
09/11/2003 6:13:48 PM PDT
by
sistergoldenhair
(Don't be a sheep. People hate sheep. They eat sheep.)
To: JustPiper
"Southern Poverty Law Center."
Seems their definition of southern, is so extremely southern that it makes what we call southern, seem northern by comparison. Southern hemisphere and the extreme southern part of the northern hemisphere, in other words.
89
posted on
09/11/2003 6:29:05 PM PDT
by
F.J. Mitchell
(Picture all nine Dimmercrat Clowndidates exiting a Yugo clown car at each of their gigs..cmpg. stops)
To: mdmathis6
That's the way I figure it and this cluck wants to EXTORT more!
I Don't Think So!
90
posted on
09/11/2003 6:38:51 PM PDT
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: Pro-Bush
Art Torres represents Mexico, not California, and definately not the constitution.Torres is passionately racist, and he is not shy about letting this be known.
91
posted on
09/11/2003 6:51:07 PM PDT
by
usadave
92
posted on
09/11/2003 7:07:36 PM PDT
by
So Cal Rocket
(Free Miguel, Priscilla and Bill!)
To: abigail2
George Bush and his open borders buddies continue to allow the importation of poverty, ignorance and disease for the sake of slave labor and votes, AGAINST the wishes and demands of the American taxpayers. Southern California is full of these MECHA type savages, and yes, they think they own the place. It's disgusting, especially when we know we're paying their bills.
To: The Westerner
Geeve eet back with all the Anglos who currently live there. Let the Mexicans figure out how to deal with a bunch of people who are armed, pissed and tired of this kind of bullshit. Or if they are not, then let them learn pijjun spanish and learn to drink the water.
To: JustPiper
Touch of sorrow in Los Angeles By David Leon Moore, USA TODAY By Nick Ut, AP Valentino Gasca sells Mexico and U.S. flags Sunday in East Los Angeles. LOS ANGELES The U.S. goals came like daggers to a community heart, body blows to a shared national ego, a downpour dousing a collective futbol spirit. And when the second half wore down, and a U.S. World Cup victory against Mexico came into focus, resignation and depression sank in. In Mexico City, Guadalajara and Acapulco. And, yes, in Los Angeles. The second-largest city in the U.S. stayed up late Sunday night and gathered in bars and restaurants to pull for its favorite soccer team Mexico. And, eventually, to commiserate with one another. "It's just a game, of course, but we feel like losers," said Gregorio Medina, 50, a Mexican-American who lives in Inglewood, Calif. "It's hard to take, too, because the U.S. fans don't care about soccer nearly as much as we do, and yet it is they who win." Medina was part of a large gathering of Mexicans and Mexican-Americans who watched the game late Sunday (11:30 p.m. start local time) at Leonardo's, a popular restaurant and nightclub in Los Angeles that caters to the huge Hispanic population in L.A. About 45% of L.A. County's nearly 10 million residents are of Hispanic or Latino origin. Many of them have been reared on soccer. It is just as common for someone show up in some L.A. nightspots wearing the No.10 jersey of Mexican soccer star Cuauhtemoc Blanco as it is to see someone wearing a Lakers jersey of Shaquille O'Neal or Kobe Bryant. Mexican fans historically show up en masse when the Mexican national team plays a game in the L.A. Coliseum or in the Rose Bowl in nearby Pasadena. And during this World Cup, L.A. TV ratings have been much higher for Mexico's games than for U.S. games. The Mexico-U.S. matchup brought a lot of national pride to the surface. L.A. is a city of cars, and on their car windows people like to hang flags. Since Sept. 11, a lot of U.S. flags have flown. During the now-routine NBA Finals, tons of Lakers flags emerge. But last weekend, with the U.S.-Mexico game looming, Mexican flags were all over the place. And hopes soared for a Mexican victory over its superpower neighbor that swallowed up much of Mexico's territory in the 19th century and dominates the region politically, economically and militarily. "Soccer is the only thing Mexicans think they're better at," said Eddie Lopez, 21, a manager at Leonardo's. "And they want to take full advantage of that now, because the feeling is that the U.S. will eventually dominate soccer, too." It took only eight minutes for the U.S. to score Monday and for the crowd at Leonardo's, gathered around tables encircling an empty dance floor and watching several giant-screen TVs, to become quiet and sullen. Occasionally, there was an angry shout at a referee or a plea for Blanco or anybody to get the ball past U.S. goalkeeper Brad Friedel. At halftime, down 1-0, they turned the soccer sound down and danced. When the players returned to the big screen, everyone returned to their tables and resumed their stony watch. And then it was over, a 2-0 U.S. victory. Some of them said they would root for the U.S. in their next match. But it won't be easy. "We're living here now and, of course, we support the United States," Medina said. "But you know how blood is. You have to go with your blood."
The only BLOOD worth mentioning is that which will be shed in the next CIVIL WAR
To: HadEnough
Bump! And there will be a civil war...anything worth winning is necessary to fight for!
To: JustPiper
Retards obviously never heard of the Gadsden Purchase. We spent as much for a few miserable scraps of desert than Jefferson did for the entire Louisiana Territory.
To: JustPiper
"A caller to a West Coast talk show who claimed membership in a militant Latino group says the U.S. must acknowledge much of the Southwest belongs to Mexico and pay the proper amount for it or else."Or else what? I'm sick of this crap.
To: FITZ
30 Billion a year flows from the US to Mexico for illegal drugs. That means we can make Mexico explode into a revolution if we so choose...
99
posted on
09/11/2003 9:12:41 PM PDT
by
185JHP
( Move well. Communicate well. Post well.)
To: JustPiper
Well JP, you're point is what exactly? That the seditionists are using a failed plot by the U.S. to overthrow Castro as an example of U.S. sneakiness? Fairly lame if so. Maybe you need to connect the dots for me.
In any case, the only threat we face from the mecha crowd is a dilution of American values. A critical one being that one emigrates to America to become......an American. If an immigrant's desire is to retain their previous heritage at the expense of assimilating American values, why do they come here in the first place?
They are certainly being encouraged by our border policy, no? I suspect they are pawns in a larger game that seeks to weaken our country from within. Is there a better explanation? Who would do such a thing? And why? Or is it something less sinister; simply cheap labor for U.S. business and votes for Dims?
FGS
100
posted on
09/11/2003 9:15:03 PM PDT
by
ForGod'sSake
(ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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