[longtermmemmory]

This is a short and thought out article. She is 100% right about what happens when anyone encounters a "Mz". It always sends up the yellow flags for a problem person. A pleasant "Mz" is the rare exception not the rule. (then again, it may just be lawyers.)

[Pan_Yans Wife]

I always thought Ms. was supposed to be used, when the speaker was uncertain of the woman's marital status.

Also... don't divorced women use Ms.? Would they use Mrs.?

[ItsOurTimeNow]

My Dad told me to never trust a woman with a hyphenated last name, or who uses "Ms." as a prefix.

So far, he's been right.

[LiteKeeper]

read later

[joesnuffy]

Mrs. respectfully denotes an "unavailable" woman & Miss conotes a certain distance and respect
once the generic equivalent is inserted...all women are treated as "available"
it closes the distance...

[inquest]

Not to mention that it's just plain awkward to pronounce. You have to emphasize it in order to make it not sound like "missus". Pain in the butt, if you ask me.

[GunnyHartman]

Official Symbol of the Feminazi movement.

[najida]

Hmmm,
I was raised hearing Mzz all the time, or Ma'am. Ya know,
"I am goin' to see Mzz. Smith about a mess o' peas"

Granted, I know it was the NOW Ms., but more a show of respect.

[KellyAdmirer]

I always thought that taking the trouble to know and remember if a woman was a Miss or a Mrs. simply showed a small sign of respect for a woman. It is an acknowledgement that a woman is special and should be granted a bit of individuality when addressing her. It's funny that the feminists felt that was so horrible and took it away, making women seem that tiny little bit less special in the process.

[sneakers]

Well I am definitely a MRS! And if I were single I would prefer to be referred to as Miss. (after all, why ruin my chances with some good-lookin' guy - I'd want him to know I was available!) (giggle!)

[blackdog]

OTOH, My wife used only her first two initials in her published work when she was first employed as a research chemist. After ten or so years and enough patents, she now uses her "Mrs" status proudly along with her first name indicating her female status. It's one thing for a company to hire a female in a heavy industry line of work. It's another for that female to be productive and get cooperation from industry peers. In order to get the respect and trust, you've got a long uphill climb in some professions. My wife will tell you it's well worth it though.

I'm not stepping into the deep sinister ideas of social engineering like the author, I'm sometimes saying that there is an easy explanation of our own making for some of the length's women need to go to in order to make a contribution in male dominated arena's. It just gives the crazy feminists a means to act poorly, expecting the public to accept it.

[Guenevere]

I won't use THEIR term for Mrs.,Miss.....

..I never have...never will....because I know where it originated and it's been a button pusher for me for years!

When my husband was in grad school, and we were married, the feminists were infiltrating the campuses & targeting the wives (mostly with babies) of students and promoting their propaganda.
...they hammered us---at first with velvet tones---how bored, unappreciated we must feel....

...and if we disagreed, it got ugly!!!

I know of what I speak.....I innocently went to their meeting....

..as naive as I was, I knew this didn't sound right.

I'm sick of the feminist agenda!

Even after all this time, I truly hate to get mail addressed to Ms.

If they can't take the time to find out my status, then I don't feel guilty in tossing their mail!

[showme_the_Glory]

Ms.” doesn’t help a woman make her way in the work world, but using the title does put a big warning sign up to men:

I WILL BUST YOUR b@lls

[PoisedWoman]

Using “Ms.” doesn’t help a woman make her way in the work world, but using the title does put a big warning sign up to men: “I am unavailable and not interested.”

Yes. Right. But Orwellian? Snorewellian. Writer digging into vacant corners for material. This is a non-issue.

Ms. was a useful term when I was out working in the world when women's lib came along. "Miss" might make one vulnerable to unwanted advances then, thus Ms sent a message that needed to be sent. Things are so different now, Ms might not be necessary or useful.

However, I do agree that feminists are nasty ugly defeminizing control freaks. Story: I attended a performance by a very funny woman comedian in Santa Rosa, CA (No, she didn't hate men, quite the contrary.) I went back to the lobby seeking the ladies room. I asked an usher-looking person. She frowned. "You mean the women's room!" "No, I mean the ladies' room." She actually argued and wasn't going to tell me until I changed my phrasing....Found the ladies on my own.

[bc2]

interesting article

[The Green Goblin]

I use "Ms." all the time in business correspondence when I am uncertain of the woman's maritial status and have no easy way to ascertain it.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Some want to know why a woman changes her name upon marriage, and not men. I propose it is because a woman does enter a job when she gets married. There is very little reason to get married other than to start a family. It is the sole purpose of marriage. Hence, as a woman gets married, she is entering a role, of which she is expected to perform certain duties.

Men, of course, are not taking on any new, important role when they marry < /s >

[Ohioan]

Yes, the essay is right on the mark. Feminism is an attack on femininity. The feminist may hate the male, but she hates the female woman even more. (See The Feminist Delusion.)

When I first started practicing Law, the term Ms. was reserved for the unwed mother, and those rare cases where you didn't know a woman's marital status. It is indeed an insult to the normal woman.

William Flax

[glory]

I love this part
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When we used to use Miss and Mrs., it emphasized the fact that a woman was a woman. When single women were called “Miss,” it highlighted their femininity. They were feminine, single, and available. When married women were called “Mrs.,” it highlighted their mature womanhood. It denoted a very respectable and strong matronly figure.

______________________

Reason being is that this is the way I felt as a woman when I was called one or the other depending. I felt feminine and young when called Miss(and I think it is why many women get flattered when they are referred to this and they are hauling two children around--the term makes you feel young, pretty, and feminine--a feeling that's hard to come by after changing a stinky diaper and redirecting an all day whiner.

When you first here Mrs at a wedding ceremony and you are first introduced as husband and wife, you do automatically start feeling an air of respectability and importance.
I know I "felt" different when I was married to my husband. There was a pride to being taken and married and being a Mrs.

I know it sounds kind of corny, but there it is.

[snowstorm12]

This article is a joke, ridiculous and is insulting to women. The writer goes on and on saying people need to be able to assume things about women based on her title.

Is Mr. a "sexless" term that threatens their "masculine sexuality"? Should we assume they aren't interested in women? Maybe men should get a term for bachelors to use to highlight their "masculine sexuality". There needs to be a new word devised for bachelors to signal women that they're attractive, masculine and looking. Likewise a title specifically for married men to tell ladies to back off. It would alert women that he was taken, and to respect the institution of marriage (ROFL). Maybe we should assign Mister to bachelors and divorcess/widows and married guys get Mr.

I found this part below particularly patronizing and ridiculous.

Some want to know why a woman changes her name upon marriage, and not men. I propose it is because a woman does enter a job when she gets married. There is very little reason to get married other than to start a family. It is the sole purpose of marriage. Hence, as a woman gets married, she is entering a role, of which she is expected to perform certain duties. Like a doctor becomes a “Dr.,” she becomes a “Mrs.”

[Porterville]

Orwell wrote about a society that sought to break men’s souls