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Cruz’s Plan to Divide and Conquer the GOP
self | September 18, 2003 | DiamondDon1

Posted on 09/18/2003 2:12:56 PM PDT by DiamondDon1

The following is but a portion of Cruz Bustamante's plan:

“McClintock” phone calls to Republicans

The phone calls that have been received by Republicans throughout the State bashing Arnold were not put out by the McClintock campaign. The end message of the pre-recorded phone call says that it was paid for by the California Republican Assembly Independent Expenditure Committee. The attack ad against Arnold Schwarzenegger was a poorly conceived attempt by the CRA to “help” Tom McClintock. Even my own wife thought she would not want to vote for McClintock because of “his” attack on Arnold.

What is important here is some “Republicans” denounced the “attack” ads against Arnold when they occurred. But somehow the issue didn’t die. And even now some suggest that we should not vote for McClintock because of ads someone else put out. This issue is a great one for Cruz Bustamante because both McClintock and Arnold are hurt here, and I believe that it is minions of Cruz keeping the animosity alive.

Indian Tribes “contribute” to McClintock

Why Indian Tribes contribute money to McClintock’s gubernatorial campaign and not to his campaign for controller? The Tribes contributed to McClintock’s campaign for two reasons. The first reason is that McClintock is against regulations and could actually help the Tribes, regulation wise. The second reason is that the Tribes really want Cruz, so they contribute to hurt Arnold. But how are the Tribes theoretically contributing? They are planning on using “independent” expenditures on ads “promoting” McClintock. Note what is happening here. Cruz and his campaign have learned well. They saw ill-conceived attempt by the CRA go awry and its aftermath. And now they are going to “promote” McClintock. Watch the ads when and if they do arrive and see if McClintock is simply put in a good light, or will the ads be in line with the Cruz campaign, and be horrible attack ads on Arnold, thereby hurting both McClintock and Arnold. Expect the latter to occur.

Women Against Arnold

Is it coincidence that suddenly women anywhere near camera crews are denouncing Arnold because he is against women? There were many premieres of his various movies where these same women were absent. Why did they not “protest” previously? One of the leaders of one of these organizations talked to John & Ken on KFI640 in Los Angeles a few days back. She asserted that Arnold has a terrible reputation with women and treated women badly. However, when asked by John & Ken what her actual complaints were she could not come up with even one. The closest she came up with was Arnold’s character in his movies sometimes treat women badly. Note that when women are interviewed they will say how Arnold treats women badly, but they will not be specific about any actual events, how convenient. And of course, these women just happen to be part of the N.O.W. which just happens to be liberal. Go figure. And does the Cruz campaign have a hand in the sudden revelation that Arnold treats women badly? I think they do.

Cruz Attack on Arnold as a Racist

When Cruz attacked Arnold based on his support of Prop 187, this was an attempt to hurt Arnold while concealing the fact that it is Cruz, not Arnold that is the racist. The facts surrounding Cruz as a racist are well known, but will be repeated here for newcomers to the discussion.

Two years ago, when addressing a group of 300 Blacks, Cruz let the “N” word fly when referring to Blacks. Immediately after the event he apologized and said he got “tongue tied” and did not mean it. After two days the matter, though disturbing on how someone in this day and age could let that word slip, was dropped by the media. In a recent debate a young Black asked the question “Since two years ago you mentioned the “N” word, if you become Governor, would you consider appointing a black to fill the Lieutenant Governor position so as to mend fences between Blacks and Hispanics?” Cruz said that first of all he “never” used the “N” word, and that people thought they heard it, so he apologized for it, even though he never said it. Cruz took his entire allotted time for his response denying he ever used the “N” word. When the young Black asked Cruz once again if he would appoint a Black to be Lieutenant Governor, Cruz said “Well I could appoint a Black or I could appoint a Latino, or a Gay or Lesbian, or an Arab. I would just appoint the most qualified individual fill the vacancy”. Note the lack of Whites and Asians is Cruz’s answer. This was not a slip that he “forgot” Whites and Asians.

In college at Fresco State, Cruz belonged to MEChA a known racist group that believes “for the race everything, for outside of the race nothing”. No matter how many times Cruz has tried to explain how the group helps student achieve, one cannot get past the fact that the group believes that “they” have the right to “Aztlan” which comprises major portion of the southwest United States. The key here is not what Cruz did in college in the 1970’s that is irrelevant. But the fact that he refuses 25 years later to denounce MEChA as racist begs one to wonder if he in he still believes in the rights of the “race” to have “Aztlan”. This was also not a slip, in that he has been asked repeatedly to denounce MEChA and what they stand for and he has refused to not only denounce them but to say anything bad about them at all.

As for Arnold, two Black body builders accused Arnold of using the “N” word, more than 25 years ago. This is not only irrelevant if he did it at all, but is almost comical in timing. Why now after so many years did these two suddenly figure that Arnold alleged use of the “N” word was offensive? To understand this better, one has to know that the use of the “N” word among Blacks is common and that in the locker room or on the competition circuit slang is thrown around like the sweat that athletes generate. If Arnold did say something in the competition setting in the 1970’s, it cannot be compared to a non-Black saying the same thing today. Note that between Blacks the term is somehow still considered acceptable “jargon”. Was Cruz somehow associated with these Blacks suddenly feeling “wronged”? He probably was, and how ironic that Cruz would bring up the racial issue.

The McClintock Can’t Win Mantra

While McClintock’s numbers are in the low to high teens depending on the poll, it is clear that the numbers have risen in the campaign. Commentators like Hugh Hewitt, John & Ken on KFI, have pushed that McClintock is a great man but he cannot win so we would be silly to vote for him. This mantra began early and continues with the election almost three weeks away. Hugh has taken the stand the McClintock absentee voters are “bleeding” votes from Arnold. This is all good “three weeks before the game quarterbacking”, but all the plans of war instantly change once the first shot is fired. If Arnold does not get enough votes on Election Day he loses. “What if” scenarios of an Election that is close, with the only if we had these votes or those votes are irrelevant. A guaranteed method for Arnold to win is that he should go out campaigning and convince enough voters to vote for him.

The Cruz campaign wants to keep the fight going for as long as possible to bring down both McClintock and Arnold. But if as some have wished, McClintock drops out watch what happens next. I will not speculate as to what charge or charges will be leveled at Arnold, but expect the worst from Cruz as you will certainly get that or worse.

Since I drifted into the “what if” in describing the “requirement” for McClintock to give up, what happens if Arnold has to drop out? If Arnold has to drop out to take care of a loved one, has a medical problem (i.e. Rudy Giuliani), he gets fed up with the process, has some charge thrown at him (you can count on that and it will happen a few days before the Election), what do we do then assuming McClintock has dropped out? The answer is we lose.

Second “what if” scenario. What if the full 9th Circuit does not overturn the three judge panel and the U.S. Supreme Court does not hear the case? Then Election Day is in March and a lot can happen between now and March. In March, would it have been a good idea for McClintock to drop out in September? I think not.

The Arnold the RINO Mantra

Certainly the RINO mantra is leveled at conservatives not wanting to give in on social issues. I am one of those conservatives. However, I know what is better and what is worse, and Arnold would be better than Cruz period. However, McClintock is better than Arnold, so I would prefer McClintock assuming he is in the race. Since I am not voting absentee, I can wait until Election Day to punch either McClintock or Arnold.

The Cruz minions have inflamed the RINO arguments with their constant attacks regarding the incredibly obvious. We already know where Arnold stands on the social issues, but the Cruz lobby is making everything worse, count on it.

Cruz and his minions have been and are continuing to add fuel to the fire between McClintock and Arnold supporters. And right now, the fire burns so brightly that we cannot see what Cruz is doing to the GOP.

DD


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; bustamante; california; cruz; mcclintock; recall; schwarzenegger
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To: FairOpinion
It's telling how all the losers are ganging-up on Arnold...The WINNER!
41 posted on 09/18/2003 4:20:11 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: DiamondDon1
I think that the only "plan" Cruz has is to SuperSize his order at Wendy's.

The man is a human pig.

An Azatlan Proto-terrorist.

And a hog at the public tax trough.
42 posted on 09/18/2003 4:20:42 PM PDT by Jonathan
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
Ummmm....Oh forget it!

Screw California!

Sometimes I feel that way too...

DD

43 posted on 09/18/2003 4:20:58 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1
Where did I blast Tom?

I am merely pointing out the facts of this election.

Are you saying that 25% of the votes are irrelevant?

With Tom in the race, the win margin may be a few percentage points.
44 posted on 09/18/2003 4:21:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: rdb3
Dividing and conquering the Right is not a difficult task.

I can't even get the bullets not to fly in a "coming together" type post...

DD

45 posted on 09/18/2003 4:22:36 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: CheneyChick
You give Cruz too much credit.

Probably...but I know the DNC and DU are at work here (and I really mean right here...)

DD

46 posted on 09/18/2003 4:24:24 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1
DD, this whole thread is a tribute to your even-handedness. It makes sense to me to wait until the last week, encourage conservatives/'Pubs to hold onto their ballots, and see who's ahead.



May the best man win.
47 posted on 09/18/2003 4:30:17 PM PDT by gogeo (A man can be judged by the quality of his supporters...and of his enemies.)
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To: DiamondDon1
"I can't even get the bullets not to fly in a "coming together" type post..."


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Is THAT what it was supposed to be? ;)

If that's the intent, if you have the time and inclination,(you certainly have the capability), you might try a summary about some of the main things Davis screwed up and his corruption and Bustamante's miscellaneous shinanigans.

THAT we should all agree on. :)
48 posted on 09/18/2003 4:32:16 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
I was not aware of this. I lost whatever respect I still had left for Tom. THIS is really over the top.

I respect the man for his conservative views. But he's making a fool of himself, not to mention handing the election to a racist Mexican by splitting the GOP vote.

I'll lose all respect for the man if and when he becomes ultimately responsible for the election of cruz.

Until then he's just another conservative fighting the good fight. HOWEVER...knowing when to drop out is his responsibility. If he drops out now I think a victory for Arnold (and California conservatives) is a given. If he stays in long enough to hand the election to the racist Mexican, he's lower than pond scum.

49 posted on 09/18/2003 4:35:31 PM PDT by South40 (Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
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To: South40
But if he allies himself even now with Bustamante, just to attack Schwarzenegger, what does that make McClintock?
50 posted on 09/18/2003 4:37:18 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Fair...here we are again...

So how do YOU propose defeating Cruz?

Both candidates stay in the race. We decide (either collectively or individually) based on the incredibly obvious fact that one candidate is way ahead and vote. Not to hard.

Please stick to facts and figures, not dreams, like the toothfairy is suddenly going to make Democrats vote for Tom.

Just maybe you're not being very respectful here. One could point to your dreams...

However, if Arnold gets whacked by a BAD scandel, we still have a chance in Tom to take us to victory. I see you're asking me to tell you WHAT the scandel will be. Sorry, I can't tell you...ask the Cruz campaign...

Don't give up so easy, the toothfairy can be responsible for many dreams...

DD

51 posted on 09/18/2003 4:37:36 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Hi Saundra Duffy!

I hope I didn't make you believe that I thought you were stupid. In fact, I believe our side is the rational side here. No one from our side jumped onto a bandwagon without a steering wheel. So I am sorry if I offended you and I meant no disrespect...

DD

52 posted on 09/18/2003 4:41:43 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: FairOpinion
Hi Fair!

This is good, we are getting close to where we agree to disagree...

1. Due to California demographics, Tom has ZERO chance at beating Bustamante, even if he ran alone against Bustamante, hence this scenario would certainly give us Bustamante or Davis (people voting against the recall, because they are afraid of Cruz).

Since we have argued this before...several times...alot even...I understand how you feel about Tom's chances...and I know you understand where I am...

BTW: You're not a Brown's fan are you???

2. With 2 R candidate, Arnold may have a problem with beating Bustamante, again we'll end up with Davis or Bustamante.

Agreed, we will pick only one on Election Day...

DD

53 posted on 09/18/2003 4:47:33 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: FairOpinion
But if he allies himself even now with Bustamante, just to attack Schwarzenegger, what does that make McClintock?

It makes him a turd; a conservative turd.

Attacking Arnold can only serve to assist the bustamante campaign. I'd like to think McMilqueToast is smarter than that. But, then, that would likely be wishful thinking on my part. And that trait's better suited for the TomBots.

54 posted on 09/18/2003 4:52:40 PM PDT by South40 (Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
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To: South40
Right now we have the luxury of running two horses in the same race. Assuming we don't kill each other (big if) we can pick whichever horse is ahead one week out (allowing for all the dust to clear with the debate).

The luxury?! You're kidding, right? How is having the vote split between two GOP candidates (400,000 absentee ballots have already been recieved) while the dims unite behind one candidate a "luxury"?

The absentee votes are a done deal (with the exception of those delivered on Election Day). How is having only one candidate with a checkered past a good thing if the Election is in March?

Tom has a right to stay in until the end. But what if bustamante is elected by a smaller margin than Arnold defeats Tom? Suppose the absentee ballots do make the difference. Would not the obvious conclusion be that Tom was directly responsible for the election of cruz?

Then Arnold did not earn those votes. This is the "what if" scenario that is getting repeated to the point of "deja vu all over again".

Considering he has no chance in this race, I think so.

Well I don't think you're right about Tom...but we will see.

DD

55 posted on 09/18/2003 4:57:43 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: FairOpinion
Did I get this right -- McClintock is going to side with Cruz on Cruz's idea for the debate to boycott Arnold.

McClintock is now siding with a RAT! That does not make my day but maybe some people will wake up on FR but somehow I doubt it. McC can do no wrong including taking contributions from gambling interest!

I don't understand why "so-called" conservatives cannot see what Cruz is up to with Huffington and the moron from the Green Party! McClintock should tell them he is debating Arnold and then he and Arnold should spend the evening going after Cruz! Know that is dreaming!
56 posted on 09/18/2003 5:05:56 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: FairOpinion
But if he allies himself even now with Bustamante, just to attack Schwarzenegger, what does that make McClintock?

If McC aligns himself with Cruz on this, I don't want to ever be told again what a "principled" conservative McC really is because he would have sold out to a RAT!

57 posted on 09/18/2003 5:08:00 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: FairOpinion
Fair:

I was not aware of this. I lost whatever respect I still had left for Tom. THIS is really over the top.

Do you believe it is NORMAL to have pre-submitted questions to the candidates?

Just wondering...

DD

58 posted on 09/18/2003 5:14:30 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: PhiKapMom
"McClintock should tell them he is debating Arnold and then he and Arnold should spend the evening going after Cruz! Know that is dreaming! "

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Even McClintock's close friends who have supported him before said several times that he is not a "team player". McC himself said had he spent the last 20 years fighting the "Republican Establishment" -- note, not the Democrats, apparently he is so obsessed at fighting other Republicans, that he is even willing to ally himself with Bustamante.

I'll bet he will spend his time on the debate attacking Arnold and not Cruz.

I have more and more visions of Perot, who came with the good talk, but then it came out that the whole thing was about a personal revenge against Bush, and he even colluded with Clinton, that's why he went back into the race.
59 posted on 09/18/2003 5:15:21 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: DiamondDon1; ambrose
As one of McC's most ardent supporters "ambrose" pointed out:

The "questions in advance" line is a canard. In truth, this may be the toughest debate format I've seen in recent memory. According to Weintraub, there is going to be a lot of Lincoln-Douglas back and forth under this format. In other words, the candidate cannot give a canned speech and then pass over to the next candidate.


9 posted on 09/18/2003 4:23 PM PDT by ambrose

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985194/posts?page=9#9
60 posted on 09/18/2003 5:17:26 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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