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Cruz’s Plan to Divide and Conquer the GOP
self | September 18, 2003 | DiamondDon1

Posted on 09/18/2003 2:12:56 PM PDT by DiamondDon1

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To: FairOpinion
It's telling how all the losers are ganging-up on Arnold...The WINNER!
41 posted on 09/18/2003 4:20:11 PM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: DiamondDon1
I think that the only "plan" Cruz has is to SuperSize his order at Wendy's.

The man is a human pig.

An Azatlan Proto-terrorist.

And a hog at the public tax trough.
42 posted on 09/18/2003 4:20:42 PM PDT by Jonathan
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
Ummmm....Oh forget it!

Screw California!

Sometimes I feel that way too...

DD

43 posted on 09/18/2003 4:20:58 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1
Where did I blast Tom?

I am merely pointing out the facts of this election.

Are you saying that 25% of the votes are irrelevant?

With Tom in the race, the win margin may be a few percentage points.
44 posted on 09/18/2003 4:21:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: rdb3
Dividing and conquering the Right is not a difficult task.

I can't even get the bullets not to fly in a "coming together" type post...

DD

45 posted on 09/18/2003 4:22:36 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: CheneyChick
You give Cruz too much credit.

Probably...but I know the DNC and DU are at work here (and I really mean right here...)

DD

46 posted on 09/18/2003 4:24:24 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1
DD, this whole thread is a tribute to your even-handedness. It makes sense to me to wait until the last week, encourage conservatives/'Pubs to hold onto their ballots, and see who's ahead.



May the best man win.
47 posted on 09/18/2003 4:30:17 PM PDT by gogeo (A man can be judged by the quality of his supporters...and of his enemies.)
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To: DiamondDon1
"I can't even get the bullets not to fly in a "coming together" type post..."


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Is THAT what it was supposed to be? ;)

If that's the intent, if you have the time and inclination,(you certainly have the capability), you might try a summary about some of the main things Davis screwed up and his corruption and Bustamante's miscellaneous shinanigans.

THAT we should all agree on. :)
48 posted on 09/18/2003 4:32:16 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
I was not aware of this. I lost whatever respect I still had left for Tom. THIS is really over the top.

I respect the man for his conservative views. But he's making a fool of himself, not to mention handing the election to a racist Mexican by splitting the GOP vote.

I'll lose all respect for the man if and when he becomes ultimately responsible for the election of cruz.

Until then he's just another conservative fighting the good fight. HOWEVER...knowing when to drop out is his responsibility. If he drops out now I think a victory for Arnold (and California conservatives) is a given. If he stays in long enough to hand the election to the racist Mexican, he's lower than pond scum.

49 posted on 09/18/2003 4:35:31 PM PDT by South40 (Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
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To: South40
But if he allies himself even now with Bustamante, just to attack Schwarzenegger, what does that make McClintock?
50 posted on 09/18/2003 4:37:18 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Fair...here we are again...

So how do YOU propose defeating Cruz?

Both candidates stay in the race. We decide (either collectively or individually) based on the incredibly obvious fact that one candidate is way ahead and vote. Not to hard.

Please stick to facts and figures, not dreams, like the toothfairy is suddenly going to make Democrats vote for Tom.

Just maybe you're not being very respectful here. One could point to your dreams...

However, if Arnold gets whacked by a BAD scandel, we still have a chance in Tom to take us to victory. I see you're asking me to tell you WHAT the scandel will be. Sorry, I can't tell you...ask the Cruz campaign...

Don't give up so easy, the toothfairy can be responsible for many dreams...

DD

51 posted on 09/18/2003 4:37:36 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Hi Saundra Duffy!

I hope I didn't make you believe that I thought you were stupid. In fact, I believe our side is the rational side here. No one from our side jumped onto a bandwagon without a steering wheel. So I am sorry if I offended you and I meant no disrespect...

DD

52 posted on 09/18/2003 4:41:43 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: FairOpinion
Hi Fair!

This is good, we are getting close to where we agree to disagree...

1. Due to California demographics, Tom has ZERO chance at beating Bustamante, even if he ran alone against Bustamante, hence this scenario would certainly give us Bustamante or Davis (people voting against the recall, because they are afraid of Cruz).

Since we have argued this before...several times...alot even...I understand how you feel about Tom's chances...and I know you understand where I am...

BTW: You're not a Brown's fan are you???

2. With 2 R candidate, Arnold may have a problem with beating Bustamante, again we'll end up with Davis or Bustamante.

Agreed, we will pick only one on Election Day...

DD

53 posted on 09/18/2003 4:47:33 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: FairOpinion
But if he allies himself even now with Bustamante, just to attack Schwarzenegger, what does that make McClintock?

It makes him a turd; a conservative turd.

Attacking Arnold can only serve to assist the bustamante campaign. I'd like to think McMilqueToast is smarter than that. But, then, that would likely be wishful thinking on my part. And that trait's better suited for the TomBots.

54 posted on 09/18/2003 4:52:40 PM PDT by South40 (Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
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To: South40
Right now we have the luxury of running two horses in the same race. Assuming we don't kill each other (big if) we can pick whichever horse is ahead one week out (allowing for all the dust to clear with the debate).

The luxury?! You're kidding, right? How is having the vote split between two GOP candidates (400,000 absentee ballots have already been recieved) while the dims unite behind one candidate a "luxury"?

The absentee votes are a done deal (with the exception of those delivered on Election Day). How is having only one candidate with a checkered past a good thing if the Election is in March?

Tom has a right to stay in until the end. But what if bustamante is elected by a smaller margin than Arnold defeats Tom? Suppose the absentee ballots do make the difference. Would not the obvious conclusion be that Tom was directly responsible for the election of cruz?

Then Arnold did not earn those votes. This is the "what if" scenario that is getting repeated to the point of "deja vu all over again".

Considering he has no chance in this race, I think so.

Well I don't think you're right about Tom...but we will see.

DD

55 posted on 09/18/2003 4:57:43 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: FairOpinion
Did I get this right -- McClintock is going to side with Cruz on Cruz's idea for the debate to boycott Arnold.

McClintock is now siding with a RAT! That does not make my day but maybe some people will wake up on FR but somehow I doubt it. McC can do no wrong including taking contributions from gambling interest!

I don't understand why "so-called" conservatives cannot see what Cruz is up to with Huffington and the moron from the Green Party! McClintock should tell them he is debating Arnold and then he and Arnold should spend the evening going after Cruz! Know that is dreaming!
56 posted on 09/18/2003 5:05:56 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: FairOpinion
But if he allies himself even now with Bustamante, just to attack Schwarzenegger, what does that make McClintock?

If McC aligns himself with Cruz on this, I don't want to ever be told again what a "principled" conservative McC really is because he would have sold out to a RAT!

57 posted on 09/18/2003 5:08:00 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: FairOpinion
Fair:

I was not aware of this. I lost whatever respect I still had left for Tom. THIS is really over the top.

Do you believe it is NORMAL to have pre-submitted questions to the candidates?

Just wondering...

DD

58 posted on 09/18/2003 5:14:30 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: PhiKapMom
"McClintock should tell them he is debating Arnold and then he and Arnold should spend the evening going after Cruz! Know that is dreaming! "

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Even McClintock's close friends who have supported him before said several times that he is not a "team player". McC himself said had he spent the last 20 years fighting the "Republican Establishment" -- note, not the Democrats, apparently he is so obsessed at fighting other Republicans, that he is even willing to ally himself with Bustamante.

I'll bet he will spend his time on the debate attacking Arnold and not Cruz.

I have more and more visions of Perot, who came with the good talk, but then it came out that the whole thing was about a personal revenge against Bush, and he even colluded with Clinton, that's why he went back into the race.
59 posted on 09/18/2003 5:15:21 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: DiamondDon1; ambrose
As one of McC's most ardent supporters "ambrose" pointed out:

The "questions in advance" line is a canard. In truth, this may be the toughest debate format I've seen in recent memory. According to Weintraub, there is going to be a lot of Lincoln-Douglas back and forth under this format. In other words, the candidate cannot give a canned speech and then pass over to the next candidate.


9 posted on 09/18/2003 4:23 PM PDT by ambrose

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985194/posts?page=9#9
60 posted on 09/18/2003 5:17:26 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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