Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

This is an excerpt.
1 posted on 09/20/2003 6:15:46 PM PDT by vannrox
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: vannrox
But wait...I'm confused...how could a pristine environment have been despoiled more than 800 years before the birth of the Republican party? </sarcasm off>
2 posted on 09/20/2003 6:17:35 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
Very interesting. This just proves once again that there is nothing new under the sun.


3 posted on 09/20/2003 6:17:47 PM PDT by rdb3 (Which is more powerful: The story or the warrior?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
Ancient Amazon Settlements Uncovered
Researchers Find Evidence of Sophisticated, Pre-Columbia Civilization in Amazon River Basin

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON Sept. 18 ?

The Amazon River basin was not all a pristine, untouched wilderness before Columbus came to the Americas, as was once believed. Researchers have uncovered clusters of extensive settlements linked by wide roads with other communities and surrounded by agricultural developments.

The researchers, including some descendants of pre-Columbian tribes that lived along the Amazon, have found evidence of densely settled, well-organized communities with roads, moats and bridges in the Upper Xingu part of the vast tropical region.

Michael J. Heckenberger, first author of the study appearing this week in the journal Science, said that the ancestors of the Kuikuro people in the Amazon basin had a "complex and sophisticated" civilization with a population of many thousands during the period before 1492.

"These people were not the small mobile bands or simple dispersed populations" that some earlier studies had suggested, he said.

Instead, the people demonstrated sophisticated levels of engineering, planning, cooperation and architecture in carving out of the tropical rain forest a system of interconnected villages and towns making up a widespread culture based on farming.

Heckenberger said the society that lived in the Amazon before Columbus were overlooked by experts because they did not build the massive cities and pyramids and other structures common to the Mayans, Aztecs and other pre-Columbian societies in South America.

Instead, they built towns, villages and smaller hamlets all laced together by precisely designed roads, some more than 50 yards across, that went in straight lines from one point to another.

"They were not organized in cities," Heckenberger said. "There was a different pattern of small settlements, but they were all tightly integrated.

He said the population in one village and town complex was 2,500 to 5,000 people, but that could be just one of many complexes in the Amazon region.

"All the roads were positioned according to the same angles and they formed a grid throughout the region," he said. Only a small part of these roads has been uncovered and it is uncertain how far the roads extend, but the area studied by his group is a grid 15 miles by 15 miles, he said.

Heckenberger said the people did not build with stone, as did the Mayas, but made tools and other equipment of wood and bone. Such materials quickly deteriorate in the tropical forest, unlike more durable stone structures. Building stones were not readily available along the Amazon, he said.

He said the Amazon people moved huge amounts of dirt to build roads and plazas. At one place, there is evidence that they even built a bridge spanning a major river. The people also altered the natural forest, planting and maintaining orchards and agricultural fields and the effects of this stewardship can still be seen today, Heckenberger said.

Diseases such as smallpox and measles, brought to the new world by European explorers, are thought to have wiped out most of the population along the Amazon, he said. By the time scientists began studying the indigenous people, the population was sparse and far flung. As a result, some researchers assumed that that was the way it was prior to Columbus.

The new studies, Heckenberger said, show that the Amazon basin once was the center of a stable, well-coordinated and sophisticated society.
4 posted on 09/20/2003 6:18:40 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: drstevej; P-Marlowe
Wonder if the "weathermen" will be all over this?
5 posted on 09/20/2003 6:26:47 PM PDT by xzins (And now I will show you the most excellent way!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Carry_Okie
He said the Amazon people moved huge amounts of dirt to build roads and plazas. At one place, there is evidence that they even built a bridge spanning a major river. The people also altered the natural forest, planting and maintaining orchards and agricultural fields and the effects of this stewardship can still be seen today, Heckenberger said.

How about that...prehistoric amazon engineers!

6 posted on 09/20/2003 6:27:20 PM PDT by forester (Reduce paperwork -- put foresters back in the forest!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
So this proves nature can recover.
8 posted on 09/20/2003 6:41:17 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
SPOTREP
11 posted on 09/20/2003 7:06:03 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
I'm fascinated and concerned all at once. The Seattle Editors must be sleeping at the wheel to let this non-conforming bit of information.
13 posted on 09/20/2003 7:10:53 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig ("I've got a feeling you've got a heart like mine. Let's stomp some rat ba!!$, you can let it shine.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: blam
.
14 posted on 09/20/2003 7:11:25 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (California! See how low WE can go!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
Hmmm, looks familiar: Ancient Amazon Settlements Uncovered.
15 posted on 09/20/2003 7:14:31 PM PDT by aruanan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
bump for later reading
19 posted on 09/20/2003 7:42:10 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (He is no fool who would give what he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose. - Jim Elliot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
Maybe they should read the accounts of the first spainiards who floated down from Peru to the mouth of the amazon looking for El Dorado? They claim the amazon nasin teemed with cities, towns and farms. Why didn't they read them? Sounds like a bunch of ignoramuses.
20 posted on 09/20/2003 7:46:07 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
You mean to tell me they built a bridge and some roads without permits and an environmental impact study?? The sierra club and greenpeace are gonna be mad.
26 posted on 09/20/2003 8:31:32 PM PDT by Shmokey (Always be prepared)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
next thing you know they are going to find an Edsel buried amongst the ruins that Henry Ford supposedly rode to our planet to escape from all the polution where he came from.......ARIANA was right those SUVs are the terror of the universe !!!!
30 posted on 09/20/2003 9:30:03 PM PDT by Searching4Justice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox
Y'all are tryin' to educate me. I'm outta here.

BUMP! Good read.

36 posted on 09/21/2003 3:30:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: vannrox; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
This is an oldie. Thanks Vannrox.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

42 posted on 03/25/2005 7:58:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Friday, March 25, 2005.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Just updating the GGG information, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
Gods, Graves, Glyphs PING list or GGG weekly digest
-- Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

44 posted on 05/14/2006 6:15:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson