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Kennedy/Kerry:"If the bishops won't do anything about that, don't come to me. It's their problem."
FIRST THINGS ^ | October 2003 | Richard John Neuhaus

Posted on 09/22/2003 11:21:24 AM PDT by Polycarp

From FIRST THINGS, October, 2003, The Public Square, p. 83:

"It's the Bishops' Problem" is the title of Tom Bethell's column in the AMERICAN SPECTATOR. He's not talking about the sex-abuse scandals but what he views as episcopal silence or cowardice with respect to Catholic witness in the public square. When Senator Rick Santorum was ferociously attacked for simply stating the Catholic view -- and the view of most Americans -- on homosexuality, Bethell says "we did not hear from the Catholic bishops." In fact, Anthony Cardinal Bevilacqua of Philadelphia did publicly support Santorum, and he and other bishops offered to do more, but Santorum's office asked them to hold off. It would, some thought, be counterproductive to make it "a Catholic issue."

In 1984, Bethell writes, "the question arose whether John Cardinal O'Connor would dare to excommunicate the pro-abortion vice presidential candidate, Geraldine Ferraro. For a brief moment, we held our breath. But he did no such thing. Little did we know that O'Connor was a pliant figurehead who was not remotely interested in opposing New York's Democratic liberal establishment." That's a cheap shot, and inaccurate to boot. O'Connor challenged the liberal political establishment on many things -- on school aid, the homosexual agenda, the freedom of the Church to run its social programs without government interference, and, again and again and again, on abortion. But it's true, there were no excommunications.

Bethell makes an important point. He tells about a pro-life journalist who recently managed to corner Senators Ted Kennedy and John Kerry. The journalist pressed them on how they square being Catholic, and at the same time, unqualifiedly pro-abortion. Kennedy said, "I take my beliefs, I take my religion, very seriously. Look, I know who I am and what I believe." Then, speaking of the bishops, he said, "It's their problem, not mine." Kerry responded to the reporter's question, "If the bishops can't do and won't say anything about that, don't come to me. You know what I'm saying?" Bethell suggestively sets the two statements side by side --"If the bishops can't or won't do anything about that, don't come to me. It's their problem, not mine" -- and says the Senators are right. It is the bishops' problem, he says.

The way to deal with it, he says, is for the bishops of Kennedy, Kerry, and the many others who take the same position to call them in and say: "Look, we just can't have this. It is causing grave scandal. And your soul is in jeopardy. Either you change your mind, or you will be separated from the Church. Then maybe you will believe that we take our church affairs seriously as you take your affairs of state." In short, church discipline and, if it comes to that, excommunication, which is simply the public statement that a person has by grave, knowing, obdurate, and public sin separated himself from the communion of the Church.

Bethell is by no means alone in being puzzled and disappointed by episcopal leadership, or non-leadership, on this score. I have been asked hundreds of times, "Why don't the bishops do something about ___________?" (With Senator Kennedy, not surprisingly, most frequently mentioned.) The question is asked with a mix of poignancy and anger by the most faithful Catholics, and especially those who have sacrificed much for the pro-life cause. I'm afraid I don't have a very good answer for those who ask, although over the years I've talked with many knowledgeable people about it, including many bishops. Some bishops have taken bold initiatives, as, very recently, in the cases of Governor Gray Davis of California and Senator Tom Daschle, but they stop well short of public excommunication.

The Meaning of "PASTORAL"

Most bishops are, first of all, managers. That's not the way it is supposed to be, but it is the way it is. They are burdened and distracted by many things. Anyone who wants to be a bishop these days is either a saint or manifestly disqualified for the job. The latter may not prevent him from getting it. Most bishops are averse to controversy and terrified of confrontation. They see it as their job to keep everybody on board, not to rock the boat, and so forth. This is called being "pastoral'" a rich word much debased. They know that almost every nationally prominent Democratic politician who is a Catholic is also pro-choice, and the same is true of some Republicans. They recognize that it is a problem, even a public scandal. They, too, have been asked the question. In many cases, they are tired of being asked it, probably because they, too, don't have a very good answer.

Some of them say that efforts are being made behind the scenes. Speaking of one prominent politician, an archbishop tells me, "I can't tell you how often I've wrestled him to the mat on this." Apparently the politician won every time. He continues to be in the front lines of the pro-abortion cause, and to regularly receive the Eucharist. After more than thirty years, talk about what is being done behind the scenes is not very convincing. In another case, a bishop tells me that the politician claims his spiritual director assures him that his pro-abortion position is perfectly compatible with Catholic teaching. His spiritual director is a Jesuit. The bishop says nobody can expect him to take on the entire Society of Jesus. One might expect that, but, unfortunately, one doesn't. Yet another bishop says that he is not sure whether an egregiously offending politician is in his diocese or registered in the parish of a different diocese, and is therefore the responsibility of another bishop. I respectfully suggested the question might be clarified by a simple phone call. Yet another bishop friend is very candid in saying that we all know the answer to the question: all hell would break loose. The papers and networks would be down on the heads of the bishops, and we would witness an explosion of anti-Catholicism that would make the sex-abuse scandals of the past year look like a minor rough spot.

It is also pointed out that Rome has not demanded, or given any indication of favoring, more public action by the bishops. Politically prominent pro-abortion Catholics in Italy, France, and Germany, for instance, are not subject to public discipline. Why should America be different? So the bishops have thought about the problem -- although I do not know who was thinking what when Mr. Leon Panetta, a proponent even of partial-birth abortion, was appointed to the National Review Board. The bishops have an official policy against putting prominent pro-abortion proponents in situations of trust or honor in Catholic programs and institutions, lest it cause pubic [sic] scandal. One may be forgiven for wondering how serious they are about that policy.

"The Catechism of the Catholic Church" is clear enough: "Certain particularly grave sins incur excommunication, the most severe penalty, which impedes the reception of the sacraments and the exercise of certain ecclesiastical acts, and for which absolution consequently cannot be granted except by the pope, the bishop of the place, or priests authorized by them. In danger of death, any priest, even if deprived of faculties for hearing confessions, can absolve from every sin and excommunication." Assuming, of course, that the sinner is penitent.

We may not need a string of highly publicized excommunications, but the Catholic people certainly deserve a more adequate explanation of what appears to be episcopal indifference to prominent Catholics who, in explicit and persistent defiance of the Church's teaching, promote and abet the "abominable crime" (Vatican II) of abortion. Canon law states, "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae [automatically] by the very commission of the offense." Why is a frightened young woman who procures an abortion excommunicate while a politician who encourages her by telling her it is her right to do so, and works to secure her liberty to do so, welcomed at the altar? Why are prominent Catholics who persistently and publicly promote what the Church calls the culture of death apparently immune from public discipline? The Catholic people have waited a very long time for convincing answers to these questions.

Until such answers are forthcoming, it would seem that Senators Kennedy and Kerry are right. "If the bishops can't or won't do anything about that, don't come to me. It's their problem, not mine." Call it taunting, or call it throwing down the gauntlet, but Kennedy and Kerry have rendered an important service by clarifying that it is up to the bishops to make their problem the problem also of Kennedy, Kerry, and a host of others who count on bishops not having the nerve to be bishops. That, at least, is how many faithful Catholics see the matter. If they're wrong, maybe the bishops, or at least some bishops, will explain why they're wrong. Publicly.


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1 posted on 09/22/2003 11:21:25 AM PDT by Polycarp
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To: .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; aposiopetic; ...
We may not need a string of highly publicized excommunications, but the Catholic people certainly deserve a more adequate explanation of what appears to be episcopal indifference to prominent Catholics who, in explicit and persistent defiance of the Church's teaching, promote and abet the "abominable crime" (Vatican II) of abortion. Canon law states, "A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae [automatically] by the very commission of the offense." Why is a frightened young woman who procures an abortion excommunicated while a politician who encourages her by telling her it is her right to do so, and works to secure her liberty to do so, welcomed at the altar? Why are prominent Catholics who persistently and publicly promote what the Church calls the culture of death apparently immune from public discipline? The Catholic people have waited a very long time for convincing answers to these questions.

Until such answers are forthcoming, it would seem that Senators Kennedy and Kerry are right. "If the bishops can't or won't do anything about that, don't come to me. It's their problem, not mine." Call it taunting, or call it throwing down the gauntlet, but Kennedy and Kerry have rendered an important service by clarifying that it is up to the bishops to make their problem the problem also of Kennedy, Kerry, and a host of others who count on bishops not having the nerve to be bishops. That, at least, is how many faithful Catholics see the matter. If they're wrong, maybe the bishops, or at least some bishops, will explain why they're wrong. Publicly.

Excellent essay!

Ping. (As usual, if you would like to be added to or removed from my "conservative Catholics" ping list, just send me a FReepmail. Please realize that some of my "ping" posts are long.)

2 posted on 09/22/2003 11:24:34 AM PDT by Polycarp ("The only thing worse than being patronized is being piously patronized." --FReeper Polycarp)
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To: Polycarp
Dear Polycarp,

You are a gentleman. I was too lazy to type this one in. I was going to wait until next month when it came out on the First Things website.

Thanks for saving me the effort.

And bttt.


sitetest


PS: Everyone should subscribe to First Things. It's cheap, it's easy, and they just increased the font size of the type, so I can delay getting reading glasses for at least another year or two.
3 posted on 09/22/2003 11:32:16 AM PDT by sitetest ("Fidelity, fidelity, fidelity.")
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To: Polycarp
Note also the "paleo-con" Bethell gets a little slap from the "neo-con" Fr. Neuhaus along the way.

I think I'll cc this to Dolan here in Milwaukee. This is a VERY target-rich environment.
4 posted on 09/22/2003 11:32:40 AM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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To: Polycarp
Kennedy and Kerry have already excommunicated themselves by admitting that they publicly difer with Church teaching on abortion. The fact that they try to hide behind the cowardice of their Bishops means nothing except that it is a scandal added to scandal added to scandal. They know that what they are doing is politically expedient,.They have made their bargain with the prince of this world.
5 posted on 09/22/2003 11:32:56 AM PDT by RichardMoore
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To: Polycarp
I live in Mass., so I know Kennedy and Kerry. Their bishop knows them too. I do not want to engage in any Catholic bashing, but I think it is obvious that the Church tolerates them for a simple reason: power (and money) is the primary focus of the church. Attention to doctrine and the plight of mens' souls is secondary (at best).

If you disagree, please explain why Kennedy's can be so pro-abortion without repercussion, and how they can get divorced (excuse me, annulled) so easily.

6 posted on 09/22/2003 11:35:12 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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To: Polycarp
Excellent article. Moral authority needs to happen on the part of some U.S. Bishops. Many Catholics have been waiting for this for generations!!!!! You can't exercise that moral authority by hiding under rocks!
7 posted on 09/22/2003 11:36:42 AM PDT by Gerish
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To: sitetest
You are a gentleman. I was too lazy to type this one in.

I wish I could take credit for that, but I can't. A very good faithful Catholic women on the west coast did it and forwarded it to a couple friends on an email loop, including myself.

8 posted on 09/22/2003 11:44:08 AM PDT by Polycarp ("The only thing worse than being patronized is being piously patronized." --FReeper Polycarp)
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To: Polycarp
The way to deal with it, he says, is for the bishops of Kennedy, Kerry, and the many others who take the same position to call them in and say: "Look, we just can't have this. It is causing grave scandal. And your soul is in jeopardy.

Bishop William Weigand of the Sacramento Diocese did just that to Gray Davis. I pray that with time more will, and that they will follow up on their admonishments. Unfortunately, in California we have a Cardinal complicit in all the shenanigans of the far left who I'm certain must have his foot on Weigand's head preventing any further action.

Gray Davis, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Cruz Bustamante: three apostate Catholics in the most prominent political election in the country (two of them from the very same parish). What a great message it would send to the world if someone with courage stepped in set the record straight.

9 posted on 09/22/2003 11:47:59 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (It's time for Arnold to stop splitting the Republican vote and step aside for the good of the party)
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To: Polycarp
Dear Polycarp,

"I wish I could take credit for that, but I can't. A very good faithful Catholic women on the west coast did it and forwarded it to a couple friends on an email loop, including myself."

That explains the paucity of typos.



;-)


sitetest
10 posted on 09/22/2003 11:48:12 AM PDT by sitetest (If you want something done right... find some sucker who will feel too guilty to refuse.)
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To: Polycarp
>>"Why is a frightened young woman who procures an abortion excommunicated? "

Um... name one.

Last I knew, only one person related to the abortion trade, a clinic owner from Corpus Cristi, has ever been *personally* excommunicated. Personal excommunication (sorry, forget the latin term) is exceptionally rare in the Church.

11 posted on 09/22/2003 11:49:05 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
Dear dangus,

Any woman who procures an abortion to kill her unborn child is excommunicated latae sententiae, that is, automatically.

No bishop or otherwise need announce it, in fact, none need know the abortion was procurred for the excommunication to be incurred.


sitetest
12 posted on 09/22/2003 11:54:13 AM PDT by sitetest (Excommunicating Chappaquidick Ted would be an act of mercy.)
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To: dangus
Um... name one.

Every Catholic one. An excommunication can be latae sententiae; latae sententiae excommunication = automatic sentence of excommunication.

Title VI OFFENSES AGAINST HUMAN LIFE AND FREEDOM Can. 1397 -- One who commits homicide or who fraudulently or forcibly kidnaps, detains, mutilates or seriously wounds a person is to be punished with the deprivations and prohibitions mentioned in can. 1336 in accord with the seriousness of the offense; however, homicide against the persons mentioned in can. 1370 is punished by the penalties specified there. Can. 1398 -- A person who procures a successful abortion incurs an automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication. [The Latin original reads: Can. 1398 -- Qui abortum procurat, effectu secuto, in excommunicationem latae sententiae incurrit.] An excommunication is the heaviest spiritual sanction the Church can render. So long as it is in force, it bars the excommunicated person from the church community and from receiving most of the sacraments, as well as from all public associations affiliated with the Church. An automatic (or "latae sententiae") excommunication is an especially severe penalty. The nine or so latae sententiae excommunications in the Code are reserved for use against certain things the Church particularly wants to deter, like assaulting the pope (can.1370) and priests divulging matters heard in the confessional (can.1388). Most excommunications can only follow a tribunal trial (can. 1425, §1, 2°). But latae sententiae penalties operate like a bill of attainder in that there is no "process" for their imposition--the fact that the person voluntarily performed the proscribed act, in the absence of some exception provided in the law, means the penalty is incurred. An excommunication can usually be lifted by the local bishop (the "local ordinary") and sometimes by a priest during confession (can. 1354-1357).

13 posted on 09/22/2003 12:00:47 PM PDT by Polycarp ("The only thing worse than being patronized is being piously patronized." --FReeper Polycarp)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I'm not so convinced that it's simply about power. The Catholic Church dreads schism more than anything else in the world. (The reason they've been so tough on SSPX is precisely because they know that SSPX doesn't *want* to go schismatic!) The US Catholic Church was dangerously close to informal schism during Bernadin's reign. Although that situation has improved, the sex-abuse scandals keep the overall picture very difficult. The tough thing is that so many church-going American Catholics are so deeply heretical, that informal schism is easy.

Whether or not I agree with the choices Rome is making, I believe that they are preferring heresy to schism. Heresy can be corrected; history has proven that once a schism forms, the schismatics go further and further into anti-Catholic doctrine. (case in point: Luther was *much* more Catholic than 99.9993% of Lutherans.)

Americans think in terms of election cycles; Rome thinks in terms of millennia.

Your frustration is understandable, and your dissent from the choice Rome appears to be making is reasonable, even possibly correct. I encurage you to get active in righting the situation you perceive to be wrong. Correct evil actions, but please refrain from ascribing evil motives to Church officials.
14 posted on 09/22/2003 12:04:13 PM PDT by dangus
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To: ClearCase_guy
If you disagree, please explain why Kennedy's can be so pro-abortion without repercussion, and how they can get divorced (excuse me, annulled) so easily.

(1) Because many bishops are weak and afraid of controversy.

(2) They are afraid that if many nominal Catholics are forced to choose between the Democrats and the Church they'll choose the Democrats because so many Catholics in the pew have been so poorly catechized.

This means an open schism in the Church, and no bishop wants to be accused of mishandling a situation and giving occasion for a schism.

Trust me, if the bishops were motivated purely by money, every scandal-ridden priest would have been immediately defrocked and excommunicated, if only to avoid multi-million dollar lawsuits.

In reality, bishops want to smooth things over - even things that simply cannot be smoothed over.

15 posted on 09/22/2003 12:06:50 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Polycarp
Yet another bishop friend is very candid in saying that we all know the answer to the question: all hell would break loose.

"I didn't come to bring peace, but division." -Jesus

16 posted on 09/22/2003 12:19:01 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: wideawake
God is going to clean His house...thoroughly. Those people who flaunt wrong choices and lifestyles will have it thrown back in their faces.
17 posted on 09/22/2003 12:19:49 PM PDT by lizbet (I wish someone would lock the Clintons in prison!)
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...all hell would break loose.

And 33 million dead babies is... what?

18 posted on 09/22/2003 12:19:53 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: lizbet
God is going to clean His house...thoroughly. Those people who flaunt wrong choices and lifestyles will have it thrown back in their faces.

In time He will. Until then, there will be tares among the wheat.

19 posted on 09/22/2003 12:21:55 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: ClearCase_guy
If you disagree, please explain why Kennedy's can be so pro-abortion without repercussion,

I can't. But I'd bet on plain cowardice and rationalization.

...and how they can get divorced (excuse me, annulled) so easily.

That's an easier one. If at the time of the wedding Ted didn't consider marriage to be a lifetime commitment, then grounds for an annulment exists.

20 posted on 09/22/2003 12:23:38 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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