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Protest sale offered cookies at different prices, depending on race
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Posted on 09/26/2003 3:27:38 PM PDT by chance33_98

Protest sale offered cookies at different prices, depending on race

By The Associated Press

(9/26/03 - DALLAS) — Southern Methodist University officials have shut down a bake sale in which cookies were offered for sale at different prices, depending on the race and gender of the buyer.

The sale Tuesday was organized by the Young Conservatives of Texas, who said it was intended as a protest of affirmative action.

A sign said white males had to pay $1 for a cookie. The price was 75 cents for white women, 50 cents for Hispanics and 25 cents for blacks.

Members of the conservative group said they meant no offense and were only trying to exercise their freedom of speech to protest the use of race or gender as a factor in college admissions.

Similar sales have been held at U.S. colleges since February.

A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive. SMU officials said they halted the event after 45 minutes because it created a potentially unsafe situation for students.

"This was not an issue about free speech," Tim Moore, director of the Hughes-Trigg Student Center, said in a story for Thursday's edition of The Dallas Morning News. "It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created that was potentially volatile."

The sale drew a crowd of students outside the student center and several engaged in a shouting match, Moore said.

David C. Rushing, 23, a second-year law student and chairman of Young Conservatives of Texas at SMU and for the state, said the event didn't get out of hand. At most, a dozen students gathered around the table of cookies and Rice Krispie treats, he said.

"We copied what's been done at multiple campuses around the country to illustrate our opinion of affirmative action and how we think it's unfair," he said.

Chapters of the group held similar bake sales at the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University earlier this month. In both cases, the schools allowed the events, citing university free speech policies.

Matt Houston, a 19-year-old sophomore, called the group's price list offensive.

"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

The group sold three cookies during its protest, raising $1.50.

Minority enrollment among SMU's 10,000-member student body is 19 percent.

In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled universities could use race as a factor in admissions under limited conditions. The ruling changes the landscape in Texas, where universities have been banned from using race as a factor since a 1996 decision by a lower court.

The bake sales date back to early February when one was held by the Bruin Republicans group at the University of California, Los Angeles.

College Republican chapters at the University of California-Berkeley, the University of New Mexico, the University of Richmond in Virginia, the University of Michigan, Northwestern University and Illinois State University followed suit.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bakesale; cookie; smu

1 posted on 09/26/2003 3:27:38 PM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
They raised $1.50. LOL. That's awesome.
2 posted on 09/26/2003 3:30:01 PM PDT by sbw123
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To: chance33_98
"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization."

Yeah, uh huh...sure.

3 posted on 09/26/2003 3:30:15 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: chance33_98
They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization -Matt Houston, who is black.

This contrast is mind-bending. I would like to understand it.

4 posted on 09/26/2003 3:33:25 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: chance33_98
**"My reaction was disgust because of the ignorance of some SMU students," said Houston, who is black. "They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization." **

Um. Then it's based on race.

5 posted on 09/26/2003 3:34:30 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: chance33_98
Brilliant!

Asians should pay $1.25 at least if you want to be fair.

6 posted on 09/26/2003 3:34:57 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: diotima
Here's a nice activist idea for the campus people.
7 posted on 09/26/2003 3:59:10 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: Hobsonphile
Ping for the campus?
8 posted on 09/26/2003 4:01:20 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: chance33_98
These guys are wrong because only liberals are allowed to engage in racism and call it something else

I thought everybody knew that rule. It's been in place since the early '60's

9 posted on 09/26/2003 4:27:34 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: chance33_98
"A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive."

It's only offensive because it illustrates what is wrong with affirmative action.

10 posted on 09/26/2003 4:36:41 PM PDT by davisfh
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To: chance33_98
How were the cookies?

Sounds like the blacks were getting a bargain.

11 posted on 09/26/2003 4:42:37 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: chance33_98
Very clever way to expose the truth..
A few years ago my husband was approached by Michigan State University to apply as a professor of music in the jazz department...
they were all enthusiastic etc...wonderful musician, training etc...
His family had to go through hoops with out-of-the-country bureacatic mess just to get a certified copy of his masters degree...etc...
well they got the resume which is huge and then read the bio...OOPPSS!
They called him and said..."you mean you are not a minority? You are not a hispanic? Oh well..we have a problem here. We are looking for minorities."
How sad is that! Not looking for who is best for the students....but for skin color and ethnicity.
They thought because of his surname he was hispanic - but no - he is from Italy. We had no interest or energy to make a fuss.
Now I feel like eating a bag of cookies.
12 posted on 09/26/2003 5:08:44 PM PDT by LibertyLight (The Light of God Surrounds You)
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To: chance33_98
"They were arguing that affirmative action was solely based on race. It's not based on race. It's based on blgnans mfryt migbrd typeivic exyrv."
13 posted on 09/26/2003 5:10:14 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: Inyokern
It's not based on race. It's based on blgnans mfryt migbrd typeivic exyrv."

That's easy for you to say

14 posted on 09/26/2003 6:13:42 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: LibertyLight
I always thought Italians were a minority in the USA?
15 posted on 09/26/2003 6:29:52 PM PDT by tarator
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To: Black Agnes; rmlew; cardinal4; LiteKeeper; Lizard_King; Sir_Ed; TLBSHOW; BigRedQuark; yendu bwam; ..

Leftism on Campus ping!

If you would like to be added to the Leftism on Campus ping list, please
notify me via FReep-mail.

Regards...
16 posted on 09/26/2003 6:55:53 PM PDT by Hobsonphile (Art should celebrate God's creation. Writers should love humanity in all its forms.)
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To: chance33_98
"This was not an issue about free speech,".....
"It was really an issue where we had a hostile environment being created that was potentially volatile."

So....Get some backbone and provide EQUAL protection to all students..

Our Universities are run by feckless imbeciles - with a leftist agenda...

Semper Fi

17 posted on 09/26/2003 7:25:38 PM PDT by river rat (War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
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To: chance33_98
Already posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/989200/posts
18 posted on 09/26/2003 7:31:21 PM PDT by Poseidon
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To: chance33_98
When liberals do "offensive" things it is free speech. When conservatives do it, it is fueling hatred and violence. The double standard marches on.
19 posted on 09/26/2003 7:35:37 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: mhking
Ping
20 posted on 09/26/2003 7:38:09 PM PDT by chance33_98 (This tagline made from recycled ideas, no animals were harmed during the typing of it)
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To: billorites
This whole thing is actually very close to the truth.

Living in Las Cruces, NM and working in El Paso for a while. My mother being full mexican and speeks it and looks it. Her sons being half breed chicanos and only knowing the parts of the mexican language to get a kid into trouble......It only takes one trip to a road side fruit stand in the area to show you that white men that dont converse in border mexican, get charged at least double. My mom does all the talking and we get away with murder.
21 posted on 09/26/2003 7:40:33 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Blindly posting without reading the entire article or even one post since 1998.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
That's easy for you to say

In case you are not familiar with that language, it is called liberal doubletalk.

22 posted on 09/26/2003 8:32:06 PM PDT by Inyokern
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To: LibertyLight
They called him and said..."you mean you are not a minority? You are not a hispanic? Oh well..we have a problem here. We are looking for minorities."

Imagine if a black or Hispanic was told:

"You mean you are a minority??? You're not white? Oh well..we have a problem here. We are looking for a white."

23 posted on 09/26/2003 8:44:21 PM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: LibertyLight
At the City University of New York, he would have qualified for affirmative action. I used to teach there, and it blew me away, when I saw the rule in some paperwork I had to fill out. The only local groups that were frozen out were Jewish and Asian men. (I'm not counting Irishmen, because they left town a long time ago.)
24 posted on 09/26/2003 9:35:06 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: tarator
They are in NYC -- see #24.
25 posted on 09/26/2003 9:35:52 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: Delta 21
J'accuse!

I charge you with posting to threads after having read not only posts, but entire articles.

26 posted on 09/26/2003 9:38:21 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: mrustow
It does happen occationally.

I was just wondering what kind of cookies they were selling......only hispanics bought them ?
27 posted on 09/26/2003 10:49:15 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Blindly posting without reading the entire article or even one post since 1998.)
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To: tarator
no - don't think Italian is official minority - except of course at the universities where only blacks and hispanics are hired...
he would never want to be hired because of that anyway.
28 posted on 09/27/2003 3:56:29 PM PDT by LibertyLight (The Light of God Surrounds You)
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To: Nea Wood
All hell would break loose....!!! plus we'd be sued.!~
29 posted on 09/27/2003 3:57:41 PM PDT by LibertyLight (The Light of God Surrounds You)
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To: mrustow
Regarding City University of New YOrk --
He would never ever allow himself to be hired because of affirmative action...he studied and trained for years to get hired legitimately.
We are now in NYC - guess we should check out CUNY?!
I hear the level of teaching is very questionable.
30 posted on 09/27/2003 4:01:17 PM PDT by LibertyLight (The Light of God Surrounds You)
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To: chance33_98
It's not based on race. It's based on bringing a diverse community to a certain organization

What is the difference?

31 posted on 09/27/2003 4:01:44 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat (Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
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To: chance33_98
A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive

Ok how about white males pay 25 cents for a cookie 50 cents for white women, 75 cents for Hispanics and $1 for blacks?

32 posted on 09/27/2003 4:05:39 PM PDT by tophat9000 (I guess it 's now Free Republicans vs Vichy Republicans currently under Democrat occupation)
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To: LibertyLight
guess we should check out CUNY?!

Am I the only one that always misread this schools initial?

I mean it sound like a school for Hillary

33 posted on 09/27/2003 4:13:19 PM PDT by tophat9000 (I guess it 's now Free Republicans vs Vichy Republicans currently under Democrat occupation)
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To: chance33_98
A black student filed a complaint with SMU, saying the sale was offensive.

It supposed to be! That's the point! Obviously you weren't admitted based on intellect.
34 posted on 09/27/2003 4:21:49 PM PDT by gitmo (Zero Tolerance = Intolerance)
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To: GOPcapitalist; MeeknMing; Flyer; PetroniDE; Gracey
Texas sized ping. FReepers in training.
35 posted on 09/27/2003 11:42:25 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: tophat9000
Ok how about white males pay 25 cents for a cookie 50 cents for white women, 75 cents for Hispanics and $1 for blacks?

That is a very clever solution. By reversing the price, they couldn't complain that it was insulting. Whoever is arranging these things needs to put that in their play list.
36 posted on 09/27/2003 11:50:13 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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To: Delta 21
I was just wondering what kind of cookies they were selling......only hispanics bought them ?

The whites couldn't afford the cookies, the blacks just wanted to complain about the good deal they got, the hispanics at least saw a good deal and took it.

37 posted on 09/28/2003 12:01:51 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: anymouse
bttt ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Cookie
38 posted on 09/28/2003 6:21:32 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: mrustow
They are in NYC

And everywhere else they are the majority? :-P

39 posted on 09/30/2003 3:58:28 PM PDT by tarator
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