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Schwarzenegger Gets My Vote
Fox News ^ | September 27, 2003 | Dennis Miller

Posted on 09/27/2003 11:25:10 PM PDT by buzzyboop

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Hey, get this...I want to talk about this Wednesday’s debate for governor in the once great state of California. Lets take a quick look at the racing form.

Schmooze Bustamante. Schmooze is in more hip pockets than a watch on a chain. He didn’t really swallow his medicine, but he at least appeared to wash it around in his mouth at a couple of junctures when painted into a culpable corner, before spitting it out when the audience was being upbraided by the whiny moderator for the umpteenth time.


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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bustamante; bustamove; california; cruz; dennismiller; endorsement; green; mcclintock; schwarzenegger
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Sorry all you John Wayne (McLintock, McClintock, whatever) supporters.. If BustaMove wins this, it will be because of you folks. You will get what you deserve.
1 posted on 09/27/2003 11:25:10 PM PDT by buzzyboop
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To: buzzyboop
Miller is right on. Here we are just days away from the elections, McClintock is still at 15%, and his supporters are saying he still has a chance. A chance for what?
2 posted on 09/27/2003 11:29:57 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: DoctorZIn
ping
4 posted on 09/27/2003 11:34:13 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: buzzyboop
After months of these threads, I see too
much intelligence to believe there won't be
a high standard of Republican pride come
election day.

Schwarzenegger is a good man, and will make
an effective governor, no matter what picture the DNC tries to paint.

5 posted on 09/27/2003 11:39:46 PM PDT by b9
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To: buzzyboop
"Tom McClintock. Good man, but can’t win. And the sane people in California can’t afford to not win this time. McClintock can fall on his sword and enter the pantheon of selfless lore, or hang in there and become a pariah in the arid desert of post-nuclear Bustamanteville."

Too funny!

What I have noticed here though is the very people claiming Ahnold a RINO view 'W" as a "true conservative"!

6 posted on 09/27/2003 11:47:34 PM PDT by Kay Soze (If punch card voting is not legal than Davis is not the Gov and Gore did not win California!)
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To: buzzyboop
Join Us…Your One Thread To All The California Recall News Threads!

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7 posted on 09/27/2003 11:49:38 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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To: buzzyboop
I agree. Though I think that the numbers will likely move in favour of Swarzenegger simply because many of McClintock's supporters will not want to be responsible for cating a vote which essentially elects Bustamente. I think a lot of McClintock's supporters are going to end up making an agonizing choice at the ballot box.
8 posted on 09/27/2003 11:53:20 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: buzzyboop
I agree. Though I think that the numbers will likely move in favour of Swarzenegger simply because many of McClintock's supporters will not want to be responsible for cating a vote which essentially elects Bustamente. I think a lot of McClintock's supporters are going to end up making an agonizing choice at the ballot box.
9 posted on 09/27/2003 11:53:40 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: buzzyboop
>>>If BustaMove wins this, it will be because of you folks.

Totally disagree. If recall wins and then Bustamonte wins, it will be Arnie's fault, not McClintock's.

Arnie has had ample time and $14,000,000 to prepare a political campaign plan that would have appealed to the conservative Republicans of California. Arnie needed to prove he was a fiscal conservative, but to date that hasn't been achieved. Arnie hasn't convinced McClintock's supporters, those traditional conservatives and loyal Republicans, that he cares about their concerns on the issues of principle and conviction that matter to them.

While Arnie can't win merely by appealing to conservatives, he also can't win unless he does appeal to conservatives. The fault lies with Arnie.

10 posted on 09/27/2003 11:56:50 PM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Actually, I think McC's support will erode significantly on election day. He will be #3, but a distant #3, I suspect. His vote tally will be closer to Arianna than Cruz, I'll bet, probably around 8% or so.

In fact, he will have succeeded in marginalizing conservatives in California - rendering them impotent from a statewide perspective. That's a bad thing - he could position himself well and be a team player, and maybe a star in 2004, instead of an indignant, meaningless voice in the political landscape.
11 posted on 09/27/2003 11:57:45 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: McGavin999
A chance to screw conservative/Republicans of course.
12 posted on 09/27/2003 11:59:00 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Reagan Man
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Congressional/California_Recall3.html Excuse me? The problem with (some) conservatives is that we want all the pie, or none at all. Liberals, on the other hand, will accept partial victories if it contributes to their overall aims. Look at the polls. Arnie's fault? No way in Hades, sir!
13 posted on 09/28/2003 12:04:54 AM PDT by buzzyboop (no tags, no fuss)
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To: buzzyboop
Thanks for posting this. Dennis Miller has a creative, fertile mind.
14 posted on 09/28/2003 12:07:22 AM PDT by The Westerner
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To: buzzyboop
I thought the site would hyperlink. sorry, let's try this link to Summary of Recall Election Polls.
15 posted on 09/28/2003 12:08:34 AM PDT by buzzyboop (no tags, no fuss)
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To: buzzyboop
"The problem with (some) conservatives is that we want all the pie, or none at all. Liberals, on the other hand, will accept partial victories if it contributes to their overall aims."

Very true.

Look how slowly and methodically the homsexual lobby inserts its agenda!

All or I take my toys and go home is not workable.

I would MUCH rather have McClintock as Gov than Ahnold but its unreasonable to belive a guy with 15% in third place can win.

And its not reasonable to beleive that most of the Rnold votes would go to a strong conservative should he withdraw.
16 posted on 09/28/2003 12:20:48 AM PDT by Kay Soze (If punch card voting is not legal than Davis is not the Gov and Gore did not win California!)
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To: Reagan Man
"Totally disagree. If recall wins and then Bustamonte wins, it will be Arnie's fault, not McClintock's.

"Arnie has had ample time and $14,000,000 to prepare a political campaign plan that would have appealed to the conservative Republicans of California. Arnie needed to prove he was a fiscal conservative, but to date that hasn't been achieved. Arnie hasn't convinced McClintock's supporters, those traditional conservatives and loyal Republicans, that he cares about their concerns on the issues of principle and conviction that matter to them.

"While Arnie can't win merely by appealing to conservatives, he also can't win unless he does appeal to conservatives. The fault lies with Arnie."

Wow -- I've read this several times now to see if I might have misunderstood. Are you saying that if Arnold doesn't do exactly what *you* want him to then he is somehow "not good enough" and because it in some way "bothers" you that he hasn't done or said exactly what you wanted him to -- he is therefore "100% responsible" for the outcome of the election? Are you saying that McClintock has no responsibility for his own impact?

I just can't get my mind to wrap around this. Are you saying that if a candidate does not "cater" to you -- then the very act of not catering to you makes them "100%" responsible for the outcome of the election? Are you saying that people in California should *get* who you are and how important you are and if they don't -- then to hell with everyone and everything? -- if people will not do and say what you have determined they must -- then everyone *deserves* to be punished and the candidate who was so remiss as to not cowtow to you, is totally to blame? McClintock has no "responsiblity" to make his candidacy appeal to the majority of Californians?

What "responsiblity" does McClintock have?

17 posted on 09/28/2003 12:30:41 AM PDT by Sunsong
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To: buzzyboop
As another poster indicated on another thread this morning, if the DNC's last ditch dirt bomb sticks to Arnold within a few days of the election, we may be glad Tom's still in the race. Place your bets- I'll guarantee there's a final shot fired at Arnold with significantly more sting than the Oui article or the allegations of marital infidelity have had.
18 posted on 09/28/2003 12:40:03 AM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: buzzyboop
Arnold gets my vote because he will be a huge benefit to Bush in 2004, assuming they campaign together (which I do). Arnold will draw a lot of his independent supporters to Bush, and will be able to raise a lot of money through huge fundraisers. Arnold's fame will be huge for people to look at the Republican party in California who otherwise might not.

If a primary were involved, I'd support McClintock. But there's not. Republicans need a victory in California badly, even in a liberal one; winning is all that should count now with the recent disasters for state-wide campaigns.

I think that Arnold will win in part due to the same thing that helped Jesse Venture win in Minnesota - the number of independents, unregistered, and first-time voters who'll vote for Arnold because of his movie career, and who are not counted anywhere by any pollsters. Ventura was in third place by pollsters going into the election because of this.

19 posted on 09/28/2003 12:40:08 AM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Rockitz
Place your bets- I'll guarantee there's a final shot fired at Arnold with significantly more sting than the Oui article or the allegations of marital infidelity have had.

If so, then it guarantees a BustaMove victory. You don't understand, McClintock has as much of a chance as I have of winning this race, and I'm one of the few not running.

GreatOne states: If a primary were involved, I'd support McClintock. But there's not. Republicans need a victory in California badly, even in a liberal one; winning is all that should count now with the recent disasters for state-wide campaigns. The equivalent of a Hertz commercial... Exactly!

20 posted on 09/28/2003 12:48:50 AM PDT by buzzyboop (no tags, no fuss)
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