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A friend no more: France has turned its back on America
Manchester Union Leader ^ | September 29, 2003 | Editorial

Posted on 09/29/2003 2:54:20 AM PDT by billorites

WHEN PENTAGON adviser Richard Perle said in February, “France is no longer the ally it once was,” he was roundly criticized by the big media elites. Now, most Americans — and even some of the big media elites — share Perle’s view.

A CNN/USA Today poll conducted last week found that only 24 percent of Americans view France as an ally. Roughly the same percentage, 25 percent, say France is “unfriendly” towards the United States. Fewer than half, 42 percent, say France is “friendly, not an ally,” and 6 percent call France an “enemy.”

Reality is finally setting in. France’s actions during this time of great international upheaval have proven her to be no longer America’s ally. We would go so far as to assert, as New York Times foreign affairs columnist Thomas Friedman did on September 18, that “It’s time we Americans came to terms with something: France is not just our annoying ally. It is not just our jealous rival. France is becoming our enemy.”

Though only 6 percent of Americans would agree with that characterization at the moment, time will bear it out. Desperate to repair the tattered remnants of its past glory, France sees in the war on terror an opportunity to restrain American power and influence while simultaneously inflating its own.

Americans already are sniffing out the foul air blowing from Europe’s Gallic region. More than half of Americans, 56 percent, think France was wrong to oppose the war in Iraq, and only 50 percent say France opposed the war because it thought the war was “the wrong approach to take with Iraq.” It is only September, and already 41 percent of Americans believe France opposed the war “in a deliberate attempt to reduce U.S. power and influence in the world.” As the French continue to display their contempt for America in the coming years, more Americans will come to see our one-time friend as the enemy it has become.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: france; nonallyfrance
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1 posted on 09/29/2003 2:54:20 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites
It is time to take a close look on the colonial behavior of France in present day Africa.

Perhaps we can start at post WWII:

http://www.acdis.uiuc.edu/homepage_docs/pubs_docs/PDF_Files/Peder%20OP%20Folder/dreamweaver/contents/sect4.html
2 posted on 09/29/2003 3:03:52 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: billorites
France has turned its back on America

Good, now it needs to bend over and grab it's ankles.

3 posted on 09/29/2003 3:06:44 AM PDT by putupon (Those who disagree w/ me need sense beaten into their hard heads with a Blunt Instrument of Truth.)
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To: billorites
I can't say enough to criticize france or the french.
Like a former wife who is jelous of your success.
The french someday again will turn to the U.S.A. to
pull their bacon out of the fire. Most likely when the muslims in the country become just too gauling. At that point I pray that the U.S. politely tells france to go scuk an egg.
4 posted on 09/29/2003 3:11:06 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: billorites
Chirac persoanlly benefitted financially in building Saddam's nuclear power plant when he knew that it would be used to produce weapons grade plutonium. That is why he was desperately opposed to the U.S. going into Iraq.

Bush now has proof of the criminal conspiracy but chooses not to expose the scandal for fear that it would de-stabilize France.


BUMP

5 posted on 09/29/2003 3:17:28 AM PDT by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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Bush now has proof of the criminal conspiracy but chooses not to expose the scandal for fear that it would de-stabilize France.

I am putting my name in for a chateau so that when France is de-stabilized and land reform goes through I will finally be one of the world's elite, even if it is only French.

6 posted on 09/29/2003 3:30:45 AM PDT by nygoose
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To: Joe Boucher
The french someday again will turn to the U.S.A. to pull their bacon out of the fire. Most likely when the muslims in the country become just too gauling. At that point I pray that the U.S. politely tells france to go scuk an egg.

Only problem with that is that it would leave another failed nation for muslims to use as a giant terrorist training camp.

7 posted on 09/29/2003 3:34:12 AM PDT by jaykay ("Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide" -- James Burnham)
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To: billorites
Since the end of WWII, when Charles DeGaulle claimed virtually all credit for the libertion of France and threw the Americans out of their bases on French soil, France has marched to its own drummer, becoming increasing anti-American and socialist.

During this latest scuffle with the French over Iraq, I cannot help but recall the words that some French anti-American grafitti artists wrote across memorials at American cemetaries in France, "Come get your garbage, it's polluting our land".

France, like California, has some beautiful scenery and a plethora of screwed up people. I have never been particularly fond of the French, particularly in the wake of DeGualle's odious treatment of his allies. For my two cents worth, as far as I am concerned, the next time France or Germany need someone to bail their butts out of trouble, I hope the Russians are available. The French deserve them.
8 posted on 09/29/2003 3:48:46 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: billorites
It sure would be nice if someone told Powell this wouldn't it.
9 posted on 09/29/2003 3:56:01 AM PDT by gulfcoast6 (My God is 100 proof.)
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To: billorites

France!

Your "One Stop Shop" for all you needs to confront the "Imperialist Americans"!

10 posted on 09/29/2003 4:09:28 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: DustyMoment
France - where "equality" is ONLY a slogan for the "little people".


11 posted on 09/29/2003 4:16:56 AM PDT by Diogenesis (If you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us)
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To: billorites
When pray tell was France ever our Friend?
12 posted on 09/29/2003 4:18:29 AM PDT by .45MAN (I am what I am because of what I am!)
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To: billorites
It's wrong to be French.
13 posted on 09/29/2003 4:31:36 AM PDT by Drango (In splitting the Republican vote, McClintock is the new SoreLoserman.)
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To: AdmSmith
Thanks for the link, history, education.
14 posted on 09/29/2003 4:32:29 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Joe Boucher
"go suck an egg" = "allez sucent un oeuf!"
15 posted on 09/29/2003 5:16:03 AM PDT by albee
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To: billorites
I guess that 24% represents the number of Americans still living in caves.
16 posted on 09/29/2003 5:20:04 AM PDT by Redcoat LI
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To: billorites
Was in Paris a couple of weekends ago on a corporate deal (which I couldn't avoid). At a disco that night the security guards pulled an Arab guy out of the line at the entrance and pulled a Rodney King on him. Had German Shephards chewing up his clothes and everything.

I tried to stop them but you know French rent-a-cops don't speak English. In any case there were something like 50 Frenchies standing there in line and none of them seemed to notice anything wrong. One of my colleagues later said that the guy probably said something "that an Arab is not allowed to say to a Frenchman".

17 posted on 09/29/2003 5:30:45 AM PDT by 12B
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To: 12B; billorites; putupon; Diogenesis; All
There's an interesting interview with French writer Maurice Dantec posted at the webblog "Merde in France." Click on the link for the whole thing; this is just an excerpt:

Do you think we have just witnessed the start of a definitive break between Europe and the US?

Yes, it's obvious, but it must be understood that what has happened - as a result - is also, and foremost, the definitive BREAK within Europe itself. Between the newcomers to NATO, the ex-popular democracies of Eastern Europe having learned much from their experience with communism, and the neo-kollaboration Franco-Kraut which has learned absolutely nothing from the past, no 'historical compromise' is possible. There are those who will fight totalitarian Islamism on the side of the free world, and those who have already slipped under the control of the oil kingdoms and Islamic killers, represented by a 'French Council of Islam' whose direction is composed of leaders belonging to radical organisations favorable to charia law.

Let me quickly remind you of a few figures: in 2002 11% of the French population is Muslim. The middle term projections are: more than double the figure in 15 years, triple in less than 25. The combined effect of demographics and migratory flows (the competent French abandon ship, third world populations flow in, it's pure social Darwinism. The situation is Herzegovinian and Chiraq King of the Frenchies is riding the wave with 82% of the vote!

Do you believe that the French population is properly informed as to the differences that now separate the US and France?

The French population is brainwashed since at least 1981, the year that Mitterand rose to the throne of Francois-La-Francisque [Ed. Mitterand received the 'francisque' which was the Vichy regime's highest award], along with his 1968 style cultural revolution. A program of generalized delibilation, thanks to Propaganda Staffel of the leftists in control of the Press and the Television, stepped up to a decisive level with the second Intifada and 9-11 followed by the Taliban in Afghanistan and the Saddamites in Iraq.

From now on, for a Frenchy prick (a fucking frogman), the USA is more dangerous than the verminous Al-Qaeda (I refer you to this past Spring's polls). As you know, the response was immediate, and it was pronounced by Condoleeza Rice: we'll forgive the Russians, we'll forget the Germans, but the Frenchies will pay. Thomas Friedman's editorial in the New York Times, 'Our War with France' is the last nail in the coffin.

The French population is about as well informed as in 1940: at the time it was said that we didn't need to fight wars in order to win them. You know how that turned out.

The American public is not really aware of the hatred directed against the United States by the political and cultural casts in France. What advice would you give to American decision makers with regards to future relations with France?

On the political level: total isolation 'by all means necessary' of the Chiraq-Schroeder consortium. On the cultural level: let the national Titanic navigate among its icebergs: serial gang rapes, Islamic gangstahs, pedophile literature, bullshit rap music, anti-establishment culture. On the economic level: boycott EVERYTHING that can be BOYCOTTED, in both directions (imports and exports). Choking the life out of today's French economy with its all sacred 35 hour work week, sub-Sahara standard hospitals, and its civil servant-artist youths, would be as simple as pushing the pillow down on an dehydrated elderly person. Just choose the right color for the pillowcase.

18 posted on 09/29/2003 5:39:23 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Wow. Great post.
19 posted on 09/29/2003 7:15:52 AM PDT by Chewbacca (Stay out of debt. Pay cash. When you run out of cash, stop buying things.)
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To: billorites
No, France didn't merely turn it's back on us, it stabbed us in the back and turned the knife. France has every drop of blood spilt in this war on it's hands and should be made to pay.
20 posted on 09/29/2003 7:22:10 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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