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Zahl alleges plan to stifle conservatives (Memo deals with debate on gay bishop)
The Birmingham News ^ | 10/03/03 | GREG GARRISON, News staff writer

Posted on 10/03/2003 7:10:26 PM PDT by EdReform

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A prominent Birmingham theologian said he was given documents that show a plan to stifle conservative dissent on homosexuality when the world's Anglican archbishops meet in London this month.

The Rev. Paul Zahl, dean of the 3,800-member Cathedral Church of the Advent, Birmingham's largest Episcopal church, has been an outspoken opponent of the U.S. Episcopal Church decision in August to approve its first gay bishop, the Rev. V. Gene Robinson.

Zahl said he was accidentally given an agenda and strategy memo by the staff of the Anglican Consultative Council of London that lays out a plan for dealing with conservatives who opposed approval of the U.S. Episcopal Church's first openly gay bishop.

"They are circumventing and pre-empting a genuine exchange of fair opinion," Zahl said.

Zahl said the two secret documents were a tightly scripted agenda for the meeting and a memo to Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, advising him how to avoid allowing conservatives to effectively voice their opinion about Robinson.

The memo to the archbishop of Canterbury argued that it was imperative to frustrate the will of archbishops from Third World countries who are generally conservative and strongly opposed to the U.S. church's stance on homosexuality, Zahl said.

The document expressed fear that conservatives would argue for a parallel jurisdiction set up for conservatives in the United States that would allow them to opt out of liberal dioceses. The memo urged that such an outcome would be disastrous and must be fought, according to Zahl.

Zahl said he was mistakenly handed the documents, intended for someone else, during a Sept. 8 meeting of the Inter-Anglican Theology and Doctrine Commission at Virginia Theological Seminary in Alexandria. The person who gave him the documents later asked for them back and he returned them, he said.

"It was like out of an Alfred Hitchcock movie," Zahl said.

Zahl, who has a doctorate in theology from the University of Tubingen in Germany, said he read the documents and was stunned at how measures were being taken to prevent archbishops from Third World countries from controlling the meeting.

Zahl said the documents were prepared by church bureaucrats who organize meetings for the archbishop of Canterbury, spiritual leader of the world's 70 million Anglican Christians.

"It included a blow by blow, down to the 15-minute schedule of the meeting of the primates," Zahl said. "It was set up so there would not be any decision made or time for deliberation."

Zahl, appointed to the Inter-Anglican Theology and Doctrine Commission by his close friend, the previous Archbishop of Canterbury George Carey, said he hoped Williams would be above such manipulation. "I feel that Archbishop Rowan Williams has the best interests of the whole Anglican communion at heart and I impute to him the highest motives," Zahl said.

Zahl will be in Dallas Oct. 7-9 attending a meeting of conservative Episcopalians who plan to forward recommendations to the international meeting in London, which will take place Oct. 15-16.

Zahl said he sent word to Archbishop Drexel Gomez of the West Indies that the meeting was being staged to prevent taking a stand on Robinson. Gomez, a leader of the Third World archbishops, will alert the others, he said.

"The Third world primates are alert to the tricks of this manipulation," Zahl said. "These documents have been seen for what they are."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alexandriava; catholiclist; episcopal; episcopalchurch; fallout; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; prisoners; schism
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Zahl seeks answer to gay bishop issue
1 posted on 10/03/2003 7:10:27 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: scripter
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2 posted on 10/03/2003 7:10:56 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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Lighten Up, Francis!
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3 posted on 10/03/2003 7:12:34 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: EdReform
He gave them back?
4 posted on 10/03/2003 7:12:58 PM PDT by TXBubba (Conservative Soccer Mom and proud of it!)
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To: EdReform
"It included a blow by blow

How appropriate

5 posted on 10/03/2003 7:18:18 PM PDT by JackDanielsOldNo7 (On guard until the seal is broken)
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To: TXBubba
"He gave them back?"


Yes, according to the article:

"Zahl said he was mistakenly handed the documents, intended for someone else, during a Sept. 8 meeting of the Inter-Anglican Theology and Doctrine Commission at Virginia Theological Seminary in Alexandria. The person who gave him the documents later asked for them back and he returned them, he said."


I would have made copies before returning them.

6 posted on 10/03/2003 7:18:21 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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Ping
7 posted on 10/03/2003 7:22:22 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: EdReform
The person who gave him the documents later asked for them back and he returned them, he said.

Without copies to be distributed over the internet we only have Rev. Zahl's word for this thread. Not a very smart move on the Reverend's part.
8 posted on 10/03/2003 7:26:27 PM PDT by Noachian (Liberalism belongs to the Fool, the Fraud, and the Vacuous)
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To: EdReform
Homosexuals corrupt everything they touch.
Gay was a good word but now it means something
sick, vile and insane.
They are in our churchs in order to defile
our children.
9 posted on 10/03/2003 7:31:30 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Illegal drug buyers and sellers support terrorisms !)
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Bump and ping.

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10 posted on 10/03/2003 7:47:15 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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Zahl said he was accidentally given an agenda and strategy memo by the staff of the Anglican Consultative Council of London that lays out a plan for dealing with conservatives who opposed approval of the U.S. Episcopal Church's first openly gay bishop.

No agenda here. Nothing to see. Move along. </sarcasm>

11 posted on 10/03/2003 7:48:36 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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Zahl said the two secret documents were a tightly scripted agenda for the meeting and a memo to Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, advising him how to avoid allowing conservatives to effectively voice their opinion about Robinson.

Whoops. There's that word agenda again. Here's a link documenting the homosexual agenda:

The Homosexual Propaganda and Media Manipulation Game...

12 posted on 10/03/2003 7:51:25 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: EdReform
Additional links on the homosexual agenda and manipulation:

13 posted on 10/03/2003 7:53:46 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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Bump
14 posted on 10/03/2003 8:08:16 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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Hee Hee Hee! How opportune that Zahl got the cheat sheets not meant for him! Looks like divine intervention to me.

If the good bishops can't do anything about the fag - I mean homo - bishop, they should LEAVE the Espicopal church. It isn't a church anymore, it's a homosexual whorehouse.
15 posted on 10/03/2003 9:29:35 PM PDT by First Amendment
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Wow ! I am speechless right now ...

A prominent Birmingham theologian said he was given documents that show a plan to stifle conservative dissent on homosexuality when the world's Anglican archbishops meet in London this month.

The Rev. Paul Zahl, dean of the 3,800-member Cathedral Church of the Advent, Birmingham's largest Episcopal church, has been an outspoken opponent of the U.S. Episcopal Church decision in August to approve its first gay bishop, the Rev. V. Gene Robinson.

Zahl said he was accidentally given an agenda and strategy memo by the staff of the Anglican Consultative Council of London that lays out a plan for dealing with conservatives who opposed approval of the U.S. Episcopal Church's first openly gay bishop.

"They are circumventing and pre-empting a genuine exchange of fair opinion," Zahl said.


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


16 posted on 10/04/2003 6:20:41 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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Thanks for the heads up!
17 posted on 10/04/2003 7:55:42 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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"How opportune that Zahl got the cheat sheets not meant for him! Looks like divine intervention to me."


Indeed. "The Third world primates are alert to the tricks of this manipulation," Zahl said. "These documents have been seen for what they are."

I just wish he would have kept a copy. Now that they've been caught with their pants down, you know the homosexual community will make changes and claim that the memo never existed. The upside is that the cat's out of the bag and the homosexual community will be forced to change their plan.

18 posted on 10/04/2003 10:17:27 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: pram
that is what the homosexuals want. The will tell people to leave but do not take the buildings and endowments and donations with you.

Sorry, but this is going to go to court. I know of some donors who feel they did not donate to a homosexual based church. If this was business they would have a real claim. I did not buy a ford expececting a chevy engine.
19 posted on 10/04/2003 11:01:33 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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But at least this makes it more difficult for the liberals to follow that particular P.O.A. when the troops gather in London.
20 posted on 10/04/2003 3:13:51 PM PDT by utahagen
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