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Calling a Constitutional Convention
http://www.american-partisan.com ^ | October 6, 2003 | by Bruce Walker

Posted on 10/09/2003 7:54:55 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

Calling a Constitutional Convention

The shenanigans of federal courts have become so outrageous that a permanent change is essential if America is to continue as America. Judicial appointments, blocked by a Democrat minority in the Senate, will not undo the damage. Waiting decades to get a small majority on the Supreme Court to reverse a few decisions will not stop the trend toward indifferent, centralized and undemocratic elitist Leftist rule.

What can be done? Nothing illegal or extra-constitutional will work. This new American revolution must be constructed upon firm legal grounds or America will descend into the sort of banana republic that France became. Since our Constitution was adopted, France has had no less than five different republics (excluding Vichy) with the Fifth Republic imposed by DeGaulle in the late 1950s.

The resort to extra-legal means will only empower the Left, which believes all "law" is simply a means for those on the right side of history to impose their will, to throw the few remaining scraps of the Constitution into the trash bin. We must find a sure, clear and unmistakable way of properly changing the Constitution. The way - the only way actually prescribed in the Constitution - is by amending the Constitution.

There are two methods of proposing an amendment, but only one has ever been used: both houses of Congress propose a particular amendment by a two-thirds vote in each house. There are two methods of adopting an amendment, but only one has ever been used: the legislatures of three-quarters of the states approve the amendment.

The problems with this process are well known. Americans overwhelmingly support term limits, for example, and yet there are enough members of the House of Representatives who come from safe districts or enough members of the Senate who have just won re-election to a six year term to keep any genuine amendments from reforming our system of government.

Washington insiders can work wonders in dilatory and obfuscatory tactics. How many real reforms have been adopted during the last eighty years? None. Direct election of senators and the suffragette amendment were the last two amendments that really affected the national government.

The Constitution, however, retained great powers within states, particularly within that most important part of the entire federal system, the legislatures of the several states. How easy to forget that state legislatures not only held predominate power in state governments, which were the center of most government power until the Civil War, but that state legislatures chose both the members of the United States Senate and the electors who chose the President of the United States.

Recognizing that Congress might grow remote and isolated from the public will, the Constitution provides ways around Congress in amending the Constitution. Two-thirds of the legislatures of the several states may call a constitutional convention. Although this convention sounds as it is intended to address a particular issue, like term limits, nothing prevents the constitutional convention from doing precisely what the men in Philadelphia did - propose major reforms in the structure of government.

Is this possible? Public frustration with judicial usurpation of state elections is growing. Inane promotion of militant atheism as the dogma of American government offends millions. There are half a dozen issues which the people who change if they felt that they had the power. And easily the most responsive part of the federal governmental system are the state legislatures, whose members are elected for two or four year terms and whose districts often encompass an area not much bigger than a medium sized town.

Thirty-four states would need to pass resolutions to call a constitutional convention. Twenty-one states currently have state legislatures in which both houses are controlled by Republicans. Eight states in the Old Confederacy have at least one house controlled by Democrats, but have very conservative constituencies. Nebraska has a non-partisan, unicameral legislature, but it is a strongly Republican and conservative state. Five other states have Republican control of one house and a narrow Democrat majority or a tie in the other house.

A solid majority of states are moderately conservative and conservatives are highly connected with cyber-news systems. State legislators are extraordinarily susceptible to phone calls, letters and visits from constituents (who are their friends, neighbors, customers and parishioners.)

Moreover, once it appeared that conservative states were going to call a constitutional convention - with or without Leftist support - then there would be great pressure to agree to go involve (rather like the decision of Texas Democrats, once it was clear that the redistricting would proceed, to go ahead and show up.)

What then? Conservatives and Republicans have the numbers in any such convention, and the ground rules should be fair but firm. The Constitutional Convention could gain much heartland support by first agreeing to meet far from Washington. Wichita, Salt Lake City, Nashville, Omaha, Indianapolis - each might be good meeting places, or maybe rotation in the meetings would be wise.

Another option would be not to "meet" at any place at all. Governmental bodies do not need to physically get together with modern technology. Why not have the Arkansas delegation stay in Little Rock, the Iowa delegation stay in Des Moines and the Colorado delegation stay in Denver? Why not let these delegates stay with the people who they are intending to represent?

Once two-thirds of the states agreed on a rather innocuous amendment - term limits of twelve years for members of Congress - how should it be approved? Thirty-eight states, or four more than those needed to call a convention, could approve the amendment. Moreover, while past constitutional amendments provide that Congress shall have the power to enforce the amendment through appropriate legislation, nothing would prevent this power of legislation from being delegated, by constitutional amendment, to the state legislatures themselves.

The real beauty of a constitutional convention, however, is that it determines its own rules. Here is a thought: why not provide that it meets continuously, with new members of state delegations chosen after state legislative elections? This would make the constitutional convention - controlled exclusively by state legislatures - have the power to trump any federal judicial, legislative or executive action. If the Supreme Court tried to contort sensible amendments into nonsense, an amendment correcting the Supreme Court could be quickly passed.

Indeed, this constitutional convention could do more than that. It could allow amendments to also be referred to the people for a plebiscite. It could provide this or other mechanism for specifically overruling any federal judicial decision. Would it run rampant over our political and civil rights?

What political or civil rights remain unmolested by courts and by bureaucrats? These rights we cherish came from the governments of the states - those thirteen independent nations which combined to make up the United States - and these rights were protected at that level by the proximity of the governed to their governors. Why do Leftists sweat when plebiscites are placed on ballots or when elected officials are recalled or term limits are proposed?

There would be nothing to prevent the perpetual constitutional convention I have proposed from adding additional protections against hasty amendments, if that made people feel better. Why not, for example, add the additional condition that any proposed amendment must also be approved by a majority of the popular vote and by the majority of popular vote in the several states?

We, the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union established our Constitution for the United States of America. We, the People of the United States, can be trusted - through those officials closest to us, our state legislators - to preserve and protect that Constitution. We can and we should. ***

Bruce Walker has been a dyed in the wool conservative since, as a sixth grader, he campaigned door to door for Barry Goldwater. Bruce has had almost two hundred published articles have appeared in the Oklahoma Bar Journal, Common Conservative, Pragmatist, Law & Order, Legal Secretary Today, The Single Parent, Enter Stage Right, and several other professional and political periodicals.


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1 posted on 10/09/2003 7:54:55 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
A convention would throw open the Constitution to major overhaul. New rights to education, medical care, affordable housing, living wages, clean environment and abortion would be embraced by all those who see such things as rights. A convention would be a feast to the left. I vote NO to a convention. Could our current crop of representatives be relied upon to write a document as enduring as the current Constitution? If the answer is no, how could you expect them to improve upon it?
2 posted on 10/09/2003 8:08:37 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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3 posted on 10/09/2003 8:10:20 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Convening a constitutional convention would wind up swapping the perfectly good constitution we now have with the Communist Manifesto.

It would be three ring circus where the self-proclaimed victims who screamed the loudest would get the most goodies.
4 posted on 10/09/2003 8:12:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Recognizing that Congress might grow remote and isolated from the public will, the Constitution provides ways around Congress in amending the Constitution. Two-thirds of the legislatures of the several states may call a constitutional convention.

Why motivation would state legislators, many who aspire to become congressmen and senators, have to de-feather their future beds?

5 posted on 10/09/2003 8:20:31 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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There are two methods of adopting an amendment, but only one has ever been used: the legislatures of three-quarters of the states approve the amendment.

The 21st Amendment, which repealed federal alcohol Prohibition (the 18th Amendment) and permitted its being done by the states, was proposed to and adopted by "conventions in the several states," not by the legislatures. The author should have known this. (The chances for ratification were seen as far more likely by using a relatively more populist path.) It makes one wonder about his other constitutional arguments.

6 posted on 10/09/2003 8:20:56 PM PDT by Greybird (... that's g-r-E-y, by the way, not how that idiot in Sacramento spells it. T'row dat bum out!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze; ATOMIC_PUNK
A convention would throw open the Constitution to major overhaul.

And you can bet the FIRST Amendment would be to render the BOR 2nd amendment neutered with excessive clauses and exceptions to a simple RIGHT TO BE ARMED.

7 posted on 10/09/2003 8:21:27 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
The resort to extra-legal means will only empower the Left,

Extra-legal does not imply extra Constitutional. Many "laws" are themselves "unconstitutional. Nowhere in the Constitution are the courts given the power to "interpret" the Constitution, nor base any decisions on constitutionality of laws on anything other than the Constitution itself. They are not to use previous decisions if those decision conflicted with the plain meaning of the Constitution, nor with actions of courts or legislatures in other countries. They do both all the time of course.

So who is it that is acting "extra-legally". There is nothing wrong with the Constitution, save perhaps the 16th and 17th amendments (along with the 18th, but that one was repealed) passed just under 100 years ago. One Congress could, if the will could be found, repeal those two amendments and there is little doubt the states would ratify the repealing amendment (or amendments). Surely the examples of Clinton, Schummer, Fienstein, Boxer and others argue eloquently against popular election of Senators, and besides, how much worse could the state legislatures do anyway?

8 posted on 10/09/2003 8:33:03 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: randog
Why motivation would state legislators, many who aspire to become congressmen and senators, have to de-feather their future beds?

The prospect of getting plucked in their current "bed"? That and the "rooftop vote".

9 posted on 10/09/2003 8:36:50 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
If you want to limit liberal spending, an amendment would do that. A Convention will allow the leftists to overhaul the Constitution and make it into a Marxist documents
10 posted on 10/09/2003 8:37:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Please visit www.geocities.com/geronl)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
NEVER NEVER NEVER open the constitution to a convention.

Amend it maybe, rarely.

But NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER let em have a go at the original.

By the time that convention was finshed you might be better off moving somewhere like Russia where you would be, by comparison, free.......

11 posted on 10/09/2003 8:39:26 PM PDT by festus
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To: festus
The last time a convention of the states was called, the southern states went instead to Montgomery to commit treason.

In any case, Woodrow Wilson destroyed the Constitution.

12 posted on 10/09/2003 8:45:59 PM PDT by Held_to_Ransom
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To: Held_to_Ransom
One of my fav quotes is "The Constitution May Be Flawed But Its a Whole Lot Better Than What We Have Now" essentially meaning we have basically put the thing in the shredder and make it all up as we go now.........

As to the Montgomery bit........ One has to observe that the boys in Montgomery would not have let us descend into the huge overreaching federal goverment that we have today.

Every time you disagree with the big central federal goverment crowd you get accused of treason......
13 posted on 10/09/2003 9:05:00 PM PDT by festus
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To: Sgt_Schultze
You are right.

There is no way that the leftists wouldn't take advantage of such an opportunity and somehow much up the works.

We can amend without a new convention. If we so choose to, that's the way to go.
14 posted on 10/09/2003 9:06:49 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
To paraphrase Franklin, we have a Republic, if we can keep it. Let's keep it!

So, Denver is right up there with Des Moines and Little Rock -- how about that.
15 posted on 10/09/2003 9:28:48 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Didn't read the article, but I don't think modifying the constitution is needed. The uncomplicated, plainly worded document we have now seems fine to me. It's hard to imagine a mass revision done in more modern legalese being any clearer.

The problems would remain - the activist/statist judiciary imagining hidden intentions, and the electorate letting them get away with it.

16 posted on 10/09/2003 9:53:53 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (Keep forgetting to update this thing from thread-specific taglines. Am I the only one?)
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The catchphrase is: "It's the Liberal Judges, stupid."
17 posted on 10/09/2003 9:58:39 PM PDT by Consort
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
No way! You could kiss your gun rights goodbye as well as relgious freedom. If the liberals got a hold of our constitution, the end result would make Stalin, Kruschev and Lenin smile in their graves.
19 posted on 10/09/2003 10:01:49 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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