Rush Limbaugh: Open Line Friday [Confirms Some Aspects of Drug Story, Checking In To Rehab]

[I Am Not A Mod]

A thread for those listening to today's show.

[Qwinn]

I can understand the contention that people with pain should do what they can to live with it without meds... (I suspect you'll want to ban aspirin next)...

And it may not be an "excuse" in the sense that it doesn't make being addicted acceptable...

But to call extreme pain "a -ridiculous- excuse" is just downright scary. I guess by your standards one should not feel ANY sympathy for a POW being tortured until they cracked and talked. Hell, cracking to a war enemy under physical torture would be a hell of a lot worse because the person being tortured would have sold out his friends, putting his own needs above those of his countrymen - but I'd -still- feel sympathy for him! Getting addicted to pain meds is like breaking to torture but without even the sin of turning in one's friends. He hurt no one but himself.

Your empathy is in the negatives. I've never heard even the most arch-conservative say they would feel -no- sympathy to someone who cracked while being subjected to torture. If you're the example that the pro-drug lobby around here is decrying as having no sympathy for addicts.... I'm sorry I defended you.

Qwinn

[Republican Red]

Rush has long condemned drug users, calling them "maggot-infested" and saying they should be sent to prison for violating the law

Link please.

I've listened to Rush for years and never heard him say these things.

In fact, as someone else wrote earlier in the thread, Rush has been an vocally against the prescription drug plan that would have tax payers paying for his drugs.

[Nov3]

They, as far as I know, have never cought him with anything, but we will see. I doubt they are going make an example of him. It may give Rush a different view of the drug problem if they took everything he owned

[Joe Hadenuf]

Thanks......

[Quilla]

PING!

[Consort]

Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Linda Chavez, Helen Thomas, Kelly Ann Conway, Susan Molinari, Star Parker, Phyllis Schlafly, Mona Charen,....

[honeygrl]

Wow i LOVE the wording of that poll! LOL

[stands2reason]

Foxtrot Oscar back at you.

[BlackbirdSST]

Your #701, Blunt, but to the point. Blackbird.

[stands2reason]

Pretty hateful post there, Wolfie.

Hateful?? The guy's telling people to eff off in his fricken tagline! Whaddaya expect from him?

[Joe Hadenuf]

How the hell can he kick it? If he's truly in as much pain as he says there is no other treatment. That's it baby.

He must know what he's doing, since he's going into detox....

[headsonpikes]

No distinctions.

Another great slogan for odedient proles to heed! Down with thinking! Who needs logical distinctions?

Those who think in slogans speak in bullets.

[Joe Hadenuf]

How the hell can he kick it? If he's truly in as much pain as he says there is no other treatment. That's it baby.

He must know what he's doing, since he's going into detox....

[WOSG]

Why do people assume that people that are in the public eye are perfect? Real conservatives don't. Real conservatives base their beliefs and views on history and experience ("Experience is the school of mankind, and he will learn at no other." - Edmund Burke). Experience says that no man is perfect. Come to think of it, real Christians assume that those in the public eye are imperfect. We are all sinners.

Yet, those who are idealists will run around, using the Rush story as yet another example of the hypocrisy of the right and of Christians. Just proves that it is easier to make sure to not understand someone, than to try to understand someone.

good points all. Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue. The ultimate hypocrisy are those who accuse others of hypocrisy while not supporting the underlying moral claim.

[Qwinn]

"No, you completely missed my point."

Uh, no I didn't. Or if I did, you certainly didn't say one thing to clear it up. This sounds exactly like what you said the first time.

"Bennett made a career of condemning other people's pleasures, such as drugs or sex, while indulging in his preferred pleasure."

A pleasure which his church says is not a sin. You seem to think the Church is against all forms of pleasure, that pleasure itself is a sin. I'm agnostic myself, but I'm not an idiot. How are you doing?

"I don't think gambling is a "sin"; I do think hypocrisy is, especially when it is so public."

Read my lips - he never condemned it. If it was something the Catholic Church opposed, then yes, I would agree that by virtue of claiming that Catholicism was "the way", that would make him a hypocrite. But given that he never condemned gambling, and the Church doesn't condemn the level of gambling he did........ he never condemned it IN ANY WAY, not even by inference.

"BTW, the Church doesn't condemn gambling because gambling has historically been very profitable for the church-ever heard of bingo games?"

What a ridiculous statement! Isn't it possible that they had no problem with it in the first place, and therefore bingo games began? You're basically stating "The egg came before the chicken!" like it's a self evident fact. I'd buy your statement if they had been against all gambling at some point in their past and then changed their minds... but only certain Protestants to my knowledge ever condemned gambling at any level as a sin. Guess who came first.

Qwinn

[headsonpikes]

No distinctions.

Another great slogan for odedient proles to heed! Down with thinking! Who needs logical distinctions?

Those who think in slogans speak in bullets.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

So I guess when he says "I accept full responsibility", he means it in a Janet Reno sort of way.

Well, let's see . . . Janet came on board immediately before Waco went down, really didn't know what she was doing, and fried 80 American civilians. She "took responsibility" for that, when nobody believed that it had been her doing--and no journalist ever considered asking if she was even thinking of resigning. Her "responsibility" was nothing but noise and smoke to distract the sheeple from the responsibility of the boss.

Beyond which, she let the boss lie to her publicly and, when the lie was revealed for what it was, made nothing at all of the betrayal.

Rush had a physical misery which, in consultation with a doctor, he parlayed into deafness and addiction. Nobody I am aware of was injured by that, aside from Rush and those whose compassion for him cause them to suffer with him. When he says he takes responsibility, he forgives the doctor who tried to help but made things worse--and does not blame God for the original misery which he still has. There does appear to be some difference between the two cases, IMHO.

[Dane]

Do you think the feds will confiscate his property soon?

Doing your tired contrarian bit, huh Fred.

Please tell me whose lives, Rush has ruined, other than his own and Marta's.

Did he break into a house with a gun, shoot an old lady, and steal money?

No, he didn't, but what the hey, you always got to bring your and best buddy's, who hangs out alone in an internet bar, "wisdom", into the picture.

Fred, you never cease to amaze.

[Old Sarge]

Wow, this thread got real big, real quick.

But I'd like everyone to think about one thing: For the next 30 days, Rush has been shut down. The greatest voice of conservative thought has been temporarily silenced. The Left will get a free ride, and ruthlessly attack him and the people who follow his show.

Or, will,they?

Rush is one voice, albeit a great one, but not the only one. There are 100K others here on FR that could help fill the void, and they can do it by:

Calling into EIB to voice support for Rush and for whoever takes the chair;

Maintaining the chat and news threads, both here on FR and on any other conservative forum;

Donating to FR, not just monetarily (of which I'm finally getting off my 4th point of contact, and doing tonight), but as a thread moderator or contributor;

And however many other ways we, as the conservative/GOP community of minds can.

I am not in Rush Limbaugh's league for broadcast ability, but in the words of a Medal of Honor winner of a century gone: "I'll Try, Sir!"

[WackyKat]

I have heard Rush say it myself.
Since I'm sure you don't believe me, search the Rush threads over the last week and you will find media citations of such comments drawn from his radio transcripts.
You know the truth don't you?
You're just fighting a harassing rearguard action now that you have lost the battle.