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GOOD NEWS - BAD NEWS (Don't Say You Weren't Warned)
Self | 1-22-04 | Sidebar Moderator

Posted on 01/22/2004 6:34:29 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator

GOOD NEWS - BAD NEWS

(Don't Say You Weren't Warned)

The bad news is that I am the newly designated moderator of Free Republic's Religion Forum. The good news is that I am the newly designated moderator of Free Republic's Religion Forum.

First, let's discuss why this is bad news.

I have no doubt that everyone who participates in this forum is aware of the general posting guidelines of Free Republic; they've been in effect as long as Free Republic has been in existence. Just for clarity, here they are again: "NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts."

Having spent the better part of a week reading as much as I was able to get to on the Religion Forum, which includes virtually every currently posted thread, I can say that I've seen no profanity (should be a given on a forum devoted to religion), and only one or two posts which could be construed to contain violence. On that score I commend you all.

Unfortunately, however, personal attacks are rampant. Protestants attack Catholics, and vice versa. Within these two major Christian families, Calvinists attack Arminians, and tit-for-tat. Traditional Catholics attack New Age Catholics, and back it comes. Self-professed Christians of all flavors post gratuitous insults and jibes directed toward Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses frequently. Threads are posted for the obvious and sole purpose of flaming "the opposition", whoever that might be in any particular instance. I could go on and on with further examples, but from many of your posted comments it is clear that all of you are aware of these facts, and seemingly, accept them as the order of things.

It is not the order of things, and it will no longer be tolerated.

Sadly, a forum devoted to perhaps the highest endeavor of the human mind and soul, that of the religious expression of faith, has become an embarrassment to Free Republic. All too often the discourse appearing in the Religion Forum resembles that found in those threads devoted to the War on Drugs, less the profanity, of course. Consequently, the question whether the Religion Forum will remain much longer as a feature of Free Republic, at least in its present format, is very much up in the air. How that question is answered depends entirely on the response each and every one of you make to this announcement in the next few weeks.

Therefore, from this time forward, the Free Republic rule of " NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.", will be more strictly enforced. Furthermore, you are all reminded that this is a religion forum; that is, all practitioners of any recognized religion, provided they also follow the rules, are welcome. However, since a large majority of posters to this forum are self-professing Christians, of one flavor or another, some additional rules will be imposed. You should all be quite familiar with them, even though some of you seem to pay them no heed at present.

These rules are:

"The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself'." [Mark 12:31 (RSV)]

"But I say to you that hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you." [Luke 6:27 (RSV)]

"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; even as I have loved you, that you also love one another." [John 13:34 (RSV)]

"If you love me, you will keep my commandments." [John 14:15 (RSV)]

Or, if the commandments of our Lord Jesus are insufficient (paraphrasing Paul) speak the truth in love.

For now, enough of the harsh words. There really is good news.

First and foremost, all that has passed prior to today is forgiven. However, my forgiveness, unlike that of God, is continuing but not unlimited. After all, I'm a sinner, too. Transgressions of the rules will be met with three warnings, followed by three progressively lengthy suspensions, after which unrepentant posters will be, shall we say, cast into the outer darkness. Totally outrageous violations, of course, remain subject to the ultimate penalty immediately, as always.

However, I am also aware that love, in the Biblical sense, is not the Hollywood kind of love we hear about all around us these days. Spirited debate is a hallmark of Free Republic, and is welcome. Sometimes the truth (at least as we understand it, through a glass darkly) sounds rather harsh, but even harsh truth can be couched in terms that allow the Christian love of the speaker to come through.

Further, no matter how you read the tenor of this announcement, I am not a martinet. I can be persuaded to change my mind by reasoned discourse. On the other hand, sinful nature that I have, I do not suffer fools gladly. Directing complaints to me over some action I have taken is fine; doing so with insulting language will not achieve the results you desire, and in fact, will probably result in something far worse. And, as always, I am not the ultimate authority regarding any decision I make; anything I do can be appealed to one higher court - Jim Robinson, by whose direction I am here as moderator.

There are some things I will not do. I will not arbitrate theological disputes. I will not resolve questions of church polity. Nor will I render judgment on interpretations of Scripture. Those are all issues for legitimate debate, and I do not propose to take part as just another poster on this forum. Naturally, I have my own opinions on all these issues, but my opinions are my own and I will keep them to myself.

You should also know, I suppose, that I was selected as the moderator of the Religion Forum because no one else wanted to wade into the mess that this forum has become. All too often when abuse reports come into the moderators from the Religion Forum it is discovered that there are no clean hands in the dispute under complaint. More often than not removing the post complained about generates another abuse report asking "why was I punished when he said thus-and-so first". In many cases, removing all of the offending posts makes the thread unreadable. So, whatever you think of me now, or come to think of me in the next few weeks, I'm your last chance. After me comes the abyss.

And do yourself a favor; before you respond to this announcement remember the immortal advice of Jim Croce:

'You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim'

I'm not Jim, but I've got his ear.

One final word. I am not here 24/7. I actually have a life away from Free Republic; consequently your questions/complaints/comments may not be answered immediately. Be patient, they will be answered eventually. In the end, my goal is (our goal should be) that there will come the day when my presence here is unnoticed. That should be attainable if we all act like the Christian brothers and sisters we claim to be.

May God bless you all.


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To: sinkspur
As the only New Age Catholic on this forum, I'm screwed!

I assure you if you do get screwed that won't be the reason.

41 posted on 01/22/2004 7:42:14 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator (I'm keeping a log; wouldn't want to shortchange anyone on their three chances.)
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To: P-Marlowe
I thought Pigs ate anything that they could get their snouts near (I was raised in the city though....)
42 posted on 01/22/2004 7:42:52 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Sidebar Moderator; .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Annie03; ...
Consequently, the question whether the Religion Forum will remain much longer as a feature of Free Republic, at least in its present format, is very much up in the air.

Ummmm....uh....I'll hold my tongue and simply add a ping...

Religion Forum Ghetto about to be totally liquidated ping!

43 posted on 01/22/2004 7:44:29 PM PST by Polycarp IV (Is this how the Jews felt after going into the ghetto but prior to Auschwitz?)
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To: CAtholic Family Association
See Post #33.
44 posted on 01/22/2004 7:46:46 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator (I'm keeping a log; wouldn't want to shortchange anyone on their three chances.)
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Not angry. Resolved.

In the words of that great theologian Foghorn Leghorn..."It's a joke, son!"

45 posted on 01/22/2004 7:47:22 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Deo gratias
46 posted on 01/22/2004 7:47:36 PM PST by Land of the Irish
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To: CARepubGal; Ex-Wretch
I thought Pigs ate anything that they could get their snouts near (I was raised in the city though....)

That is true, however when they are sucking gravy it is very difficult for them to manipulate the keys on their keyboards. Hence you shouldn't be able to find any gravy sucking pigs posting in the religion forum.

Most of the gravy sucking pigs that I know of are posting at DU and using voice recognition software.

47 posted on 01/22/2004 7:47:37 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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To: P-Marlowe
LOLOL! And the GSP (gravy sucking pigs) are unwashed and sort of resemble Michael Moore (ewwwww). :-)
48 posted on 01/22/2004 7:49:18 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: Alex Murphy
Of course it's a joke. However, I've noticed in the past week that jokes are a bit sparse around here; just didn't want anyone to get the wrong impression.

You suppose Jonathan Edwards would agree? Hard to tell from his writings.

49 posted on 01/22/2004 7:50:40 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator (I'm keeping a log; wouldn't want to shortchange anyone on their three chances.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Not sure, but didn't the Lord cast all the gravy out of them Shiley pigs before they ran off the cliff and drowned? Gravy bad.
50 posted on 01/22/2004 7:50:44 PM PST by Ex-Wretch
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To: Alex Murphy; Sidebar Moderator
Any of this gettin' thru to ya son?
51 posted on 01/22/2004 7:52:13 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Virginia Senator John ChaChingChester is TAXING my nerves.)
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To: Sidebar Moderator; Jim Robinson
Religion bashing is one of my pet peeves and handling the disruptive flamers is an idea past its due.

Kudos and my humble apologies if seemed to indicate otherwise. My typing doesn't always come out the way I would like.

52 posted on 01/22/2004 7:55:50 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; Sidebar Moderator
I know ig-pay atin-lay.

(NOTE: This post does not associate pigs with Latin and should not be construed as an attack on either hispanics or Catholics. Whew, this is gonna be tough!)
53 posted on 01/22/2004 7:56:31 PM PST by drstevej
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To: Corin Stormhands; Sidebar Moderator
Are you not understanding what the mod said Corin or do you simply pick fights for fun? Your motives are a bit unclear to me. Please explain without fingerpointing and accusing. Thanks!
54 posted on 01/22/2004 7:57:58 PM PST by CARepubGal
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To: sinkspur
LOL!

55 posted on 01/22/2004 7:59:51 PM PST by american colleen
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Thanks. As I'm sure you are aware, I've thought this Religion Forum Ghetto was a bad idea from day one, and its foregone conclusion would be this kind of internecine warfare you're trying to stop.

*****

Any "Conservative" political movement in America must be animated by a continual reference to, and analysis of, the intersection between faith and politics.

"Conservatism" needs definition on a forum like this:

Main Entry: con·ser·va·tism
Pronunciation: k&n-'s&r-v&-"ti-z&m
Function: noun
Date: 1835
1 capitalized a : the principles and policies of a Conservative party b : the Conservative party
2 a : disposition in politics to preserve what is established b : a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change
3 : the tendency to prefer an existing or traditional situation to change

Personally I believe that a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions in America is, by definition, based on Judeo-Christian tradition and social stability.

Therefore, I do not shy away from calling those self proclaimed conservatives here on FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum" back to the very roots of that "Conservatism, " namely Judeo-Christian principles and belief. Christianity is integral to the continuance of Conservatism in America and thus The Necessity for Christianity on Free Republic.

I would like to see an ongoing, charitable discussion and debate on the defintion of, and basis/roots of, the "Conservative" aspect of FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum."

*****

Oh well, I guess that old post from my profile page was just a pipe dream on this "conservative news forum."

56 posted on 01/22/2004 8:00:10 PM PST by Polycarp IV (Is this how the Jews felt after going into the ghetto but prior to Auschwitz?)
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To: CARepubGal; Alex Murphy; Sidebar Moderator
Perhaps you should read Alex's Post 45 and click my link before you say anything else.
57 posted on 01/22/2004 8:00:22 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (Virginia Senator John ChaChingChester is TAXING my nerves.)
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To: sinkspur
As the only New Age Catholic on this forum, I'm screwed!

Snicker, snicker.

58 posted on 01/22/2004 8:02:36 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: Corin Stormhands; CARepubGal

59 posted on 01/22/2004 8:04:23 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o* &AAGG)
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To: CAtholic Family Association; Jim Robinson
You should take your concerns in Post #56 to Jim Robinson.

By the way, your tag line isn't helping.

60 posted on 01/22/2004 8:04:51 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator (I'm keeping a log; wouldn't want to shortchange anyone on their three chances.)
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