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What Happened When The Worlds Most Famous Atheist Had A Near Death Experience.
National Post
| March 3 2001
| William Cash
Posted on 02/04/2004 5:20:15 PM PST by catonsville
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There was another thread today about an athiest who had such a terrifying NDE that he later became a minister. I thought Freepers would be interested in the unusual experience of A. J. Ayers, the most famous atheist of the last half of the 20th century who also had such an experience and how it affected him. Ayers was a remarkable man ( the story hints at his unusual love life) in many ways. Philospher, developer of language theory, writer, poet and more. Even those who disagreed with him found him charming, kind and very likable. The debate still rages, did Ayers really change after his experience? I think so.
To: catonsville
Near-death is the key phrase. Nobody has returned from the dead since the resurrection of Christ. Unless you count ghosts who, technically, are still dead.
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posted on
02/04/2004 5:29:11 PM PST
by
luvbach1
(In the know on the border)
To: catonsville
Thanks for posting. I guess he never became a Christian after his near-death experience?
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To: luvbach1
Yes, there is such a thing as a near-death experience. Due to an accident in a hospital, I can vouch for the fact that the last human sense to fail, is hearing. I went into shock during a cat scan. My vision failed. My sense of touch failed. I heard the nurse say to the doctor, "BP 70 over 0." Those are not good numbers, LOL.
It is an interesting and remarkably detatched experience. I knew what was going on, and what the doctor was doing to snap me out of it. I thought it would work. Meanwhile, I was along for the ride. LOL.
Congressman Billybob
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posted on
02/04/2004 5:44:58 PM PST
by
Congressman Billybob
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To: catonsville
Descriptions of NDEs have been so widely published for so long that no 'testimony' of this sort can be regarded, on the basis of choosing the simplest explanation, as anything except a false memory induced by urban myth.
That said, accounts of NDEs from before they became so widely discussed do sound a lot like this.
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posted on
02/04/2004 5:46:07 PM PST
by
Grut
To: catonsville
Thank you for this thread, very interesting.
My favorite line, though, is, "Freddie became so much nicer after he died," said Dee."
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posted on
02/04/2004 5:49:53 PM PST
by
xJones
To: catonsville
"Freddie became so much nicer after he died,"PLEASE DON'T PRAY FOR ME!
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posted on
02/04/2004 5:53:04 PM PST
by
jaz.357
(Pacifism is the greatest tool in the hands of a faschist. - Mike Muir)
To: Congressman Billybob
While I have never had a NDE, I have had experiences in my life that have me absolutely convinced that there is someone watching out for me.
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posted on
02/04/2004 5:53:12 PM PST
by
Spruce
(Football changed when the Vikes moved indoors.)
To: luvbach1
Nobody has returned from the dead since the resurrection of Christ.Um, Lazarus?
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:00:41 PM PST
by
Aeronaut
(In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
To: luvbach1
Dunno...agree for the most part but I have seen folks with no pulse, not breathing and with proper emergency care from first responders bring them back to pulse and breathing mode. NDE ? Dead ? Just almost dead ?
They were as close as I can figure ........Stay safe !
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:01:12 PM PST
by
Squantos
(Salmon...the other pink meat !)
To: Squantos
I believe that's "Mostly Dead".
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:03:09 PM PST
by
Spruce
(Football changed when the Vikes moved indoors.)
To: Aeronaut
Lazarus was raised before the crucifixion, wasn't he?
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:13:14 PM PST
by
WinOne4TheGipper
(This tagline was made in a Colombian sweatshop.)
To: will1776
Lazarus was raised before the crucifixion, wasn't he?Oops, I stand corrected. Sorry.
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:14:57 PM PST
by
Aeronaut
(In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
To: Aeronaut
If I remember my Bible correctly Lazarus was resurrected from the dead by Christ before Christ died and came back.
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:15:15 PM PST
by
freemama
To: Aeronaut
Nobody has returned from the dead since the resurrection of Christ. Um, Lazarus?
Um, Lazarus was raised from the dead by Christ. I am assuming that Christ was alive at the time, hence "since" is correct.
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:20:10 PM PST
by
mc5cents
To: catonsville
I read a book by an agnostic Doctor who worked with terminally ill children.
She was converted to Christianity due to many of these children testifying that they had spiritual encounters with Christ before their deaths.
The book was wonderful and honest. Titled " A Window to Heaven".
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:25:30 PM PST
by
Jorge
To: Spruce
LOL.....Almost Almost !
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:26:03 PM PST
by
Squantos
(Salmon...the other pink meat !)
To: catonsville
Is this NDE day? I just got through reading another thread on FR on the same subject. Paging Art Bell.
To: Aeronaut
I'm not joining the crowd to correct your time-line...
but I'll take a second to point folks to the parable of the rich man and
"the other Lazarus" in the sixteenth chapter of Luke.
That's a good one for folks thinkin' 'bout NDEs and mortality/death.
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posted on
02/04/2004 6:38:17 PM PST
by
VOA
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