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Bye Bye, Southern Baptist Convention
The Slacktivist ^ | March 2004

Posted on 03/23/2004 5:36:21 PM PST by B-Chan

SBC (1845-2005)

The Southern Baptist Convention is considering changing its name.

The convention began in 1845, in a rift among American Baptists over the matter of slavery -- hence the "Southern."

But the SBC points out that their fellowship today is a global association, present and growing in the dozens of different countries to which it has spread from its base in the American South. The convention's name, they say, should therefore reflect this new, larger-than-regional reality:

"We are no longer a regional influence,'' the Rev. Jack Graham, Southern Baptist president, told the group's executive committee last month. ''We are a network of churches, which circle the planet.''

Graham said he was forming a committee to explore a name change. A report is expected at the denomination's 2005 annual meeting, which will be held in Nashville.

That's from this Tennessean report.

Reporter Brian Lewis notes that, while slavery may have ended within 20 years of the SBC's formation, it seems still to be on the mind of many of those who have written the newspaper in response to its story on the convention's proposed name change:

Robert McMullen, a member of an independent Baptist church in northwest Arkansas, recommended the name ''Scalawag Baptist Church.''

''They wouldn't even have to change their acronym, initials or stationery!'' McMullen wrote.

His e-mail signature also included the words ''Southern Patriots never forget'' and quotes from several leaders of the Confederacy including Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee.

Another respondent, K. Steven Monk of First Southern Baptist Church in Atlanta, said that Southern Baptists should call themselves ''Well, duh, I reckon Southern Baptists.'' He also identified himself as a member of the Eli P. Landers Camp 1724 of the Sons of Confederate Veterans and included a link to the ''Confederate State of America Project.''

We don't believe these e-mails represent the majority of our readers or members of the Southern Baptist Convention, but they are the majority of responses we received.

Seems like 1845 is still seen as the good old days by some of the good old boys in the SBC.

My own suggestion for a new name would be the NCC: the Nashville Catholic Church.

Keep in mind that there is no such thing as the Baptist Church -- only Baptist churches. That's due to one of the core beliefs of Baptists -- "soul freedom" -- which means, among other things, that you can't tell me what I'm supposed to believe and vice versa.

That's why there is no Baptist hierarchy, no bishops, archbishops or popes. And it's why Baptists do not insist on adherence to the traditional creeds of the Christian churches.

Yet the SBC has adopted an ever-growing series of "statements of faith" to which it demands an unquestioning loyalty. (These statements, by the way, tend to be far longer and farther-reaching than the simple, economical creeds.)

Enforcement of these statements of faith is conducted by rigidly hierarchical would-be Cardinals like Al Mohler -- guys who make Torquemada look like Roger Williams. All they're lacking are the robes and funny hats.


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; History; Humor; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Worship
KEYWORDS: antibaptist; baptist; bash; christianity; hate; religion; southern
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I thought this was sort of funny, especially the part about the “Nasville Catholic Church”.
1 posted on 03/23/2004 5:36:21 PM PST by B-Chan
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To: B-Chan
Guess "southern" not pc enough now either.
2 posted on 03/23/2004 5:40:57 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: B-Chan
Baptists do not insist on adherence to the traditional creeds of the Christian churches

The baptist church I grew up in had lots of creeds... And if the bible mention their rule, they made it up.

"No playing baseball on Sundays... But you can watch other play the sport on Sundays on TV."

"You cannot violate the Sabbath by mowing the grass on Sundays... so we will stay inside and clean the basement."

"Since there is to be no working on Sunday, we will take Mom out to eat so she will not violate the Sabbath commandment. So we will eat in a restaurant where OTHERS violate the Sabbath."

3 posted on 03/23/2004 5:51:36 PM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: B-Chan
I thought this was sort of funny, especially the part about the “Nasville Catholic Church”.

B-Chan, that was 'Nashville', not 'Nasville'.

Have you gone into Baptist bashing? I'm disappointed. I've defended you on a thread of yours where you were trying to promote Catholic monarchies as the best way of government. Oh well, what's one more disappointment...

4 posted on 03/23/2004 6:34:16 PM PST by xJones
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No bashing was intended. Sorry if I created that impression. I just thought this was a funny bit of satire.
5 posted on 03/23/2004 7:28:22 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
I'm baptist and I wasn't offended :')
6 posted on 03/23/2004 7:44:29 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: B-Chan
I just thought this was a funny bit of satire.

Okay, but I don't want to know what you'd call an hilarious bit of satire.:)

7 posted on 03/23/2004 7:47:23 PM PST by xJones (Somedays it doesn't pay to bite through the leather straps and get up in the morning - Emo Phillips)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Sounds like you were a fundamentalist being raised in a liberal baptist church. I'm a liberal baptist that worships at a fundamental baptist church . :')
8 posted on 03/23/2004 7:50:23 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: B-Chan
I'm a Baptist and I have a broad sense of humor. This article struck me as strange and neither funny nor satirical.

JWinNC
9 posted on 03/23/2004 8:12:14 PM PST by JWinNC
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To: JWinNC
The article is a hit piece.
10 posted on 03/23/2004 8:17:07 PM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej
Yes, that figures.
11 posted on 03/23/2004 8:29:44 PM PST by JWinNC
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To: CindyDawg
I'm a liberal baptist that worships at a fundamental baptist church . :')

What is a liberal baptist?

12 posted on 03/23/2004 8:32:24 PM PST by xJones
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To: B-Chan
Why didn't you post the comments that followed the article on this liberal blog? You really can't 'feel the love' without them.

Comments

I've always thought "Baptist polity" was an oxymoron ...

They should change their name so I don't confuse them with my phone company.

How about changing the name to "Enigma Babylon One World Faith"?

SSSHHHHHH!!! You are not supposed to mention the robes and the funny hats. Them there are kept at the Lodge.

The Southern Baptists didn't exactly distinguish themselves during the Civil Rights Movement either although there was a minority of progressives in the SBC that did help steer the denomination in a more moderate direction.
13 posted on 03/23/2004 8:35:58 PM PST by Between the Lines
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slavery, Southern, Scalawag, Southern Patriots, Confederacy, Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee, Well duh, Sons of Confederate Veterans, Confederate State of America Project, good old boys, robes and funny hats.

Seems the only words missing here are states rights, lynch and nigger.
14 posted on 03/23/2004 8:43:10 PM PST by Between the Lines
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To: xJones
Someone who stays in the Word but sets their own rules.
15 posted on 03/23/2004 8:44:02 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Between the Lines; B-Chan
I hadn't bothered to read the comments. You and others are right, this is a hit piece.

Bichon, I hardly knew ye. (Just a joke, of course, haha.)

16 posted on 03/23/2004 8:47:27 PM PST by xJones
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To: Between the Lines
The silly part of this article (to me) was that who are the people in the south that are predominately baptist?
17 posted on 03/23/2004 8:48:25 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
Someone who stays in the Word but sets their own rules.

So what are your rules?

18 posted on 03/23/2004 8:48:25 PM PST by xJones
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To: CindyDawg
The silly part of this article (to me) was that who are the people in the south that are predominately baptist?

Um, let me think hard,..... maybe that would be the ones that are members of Baptist churches.

19 posted on 03/23/2004 8:53:29 PM PST by xJones
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To: CindyDawg
Blacks of course.
20 posted on 03/23/2004 8:55:41 PM PST by Between the Lines
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