Photo Report of Hindu Ritual at Fatima: Pictures of a Desecration

Catholic Family News Special Report ^ | John Vennari

[narses]

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[tet68]

I haven't read all the way through the thread and perhaps
you have explained some of the misinformation about the Gita
if you haven't as I understood it Arjuna was conflicted in his duty and was unable to act, Krishna in the guise of his charioteer, reveals himself to him and leads him to understand that only by being what he is, a warrior, can his life have meaning.

That life is an illusion is basic to all faiths or they would not recognize a godly existence beyond life.

So it was not that life is an illusion that ALLOWED Arjuna
to follow his duty but in spite of it.

"Many lives we have lived Arjuna, you remember none of them, I remember them all..."

I am a buddhist, and spin the prayer wheel, yet I walk with
krishna on the battlefield of life.

[SuziQ]

Those who permit these desecrations do not have the Catholic faith--and that includes many in the Holy See itself--and perhaps even the Pope.

Is there any evidence that the Pope even knew this was happening? Local Bishops don't clear everything with the Vatican, or ask for permission.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks for the ping - I had forgotten about this discussion from a couple of years ago! I just re-read some of my comments, if you read them get back to me and we discuss illusion! One of my favorite topics.

[little jeremiah]

That should be - we CAN discuss illusion.

[Aquinasfan]

That life is an illusion is basic to all faiths or they would not recognize a godly existence beyond life.

FYI, that's not the Christian position.

While Christians hope that heaven will be our ultimate home, we do not believe that our earthly existence is illusory. We believe that God created the world and that everything that He created is good. We believe that death entered the world because of sin. Death is not "natural," in the sense that it was not a part of Creation in the beginning. In the end, the universe will be perfected and heaven and the universe will be united:

Revelation 21:1-2

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.

[kstewskis]

Do we know if the Shrine ever got reconsecrated after all of this?

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Seems like an argument between two idolatrous religions. "My idol is better than your idol."

[Coleus]

Catholics do not worship idols. Before you make inane comments go to a catholic church and "listen", the prayers are from the bible and are directed towards God.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Catholics do not worship idols.

I have watched them with my own eyes at a quinceanera mass do that very thing with the nonexistent Virgin of Guadalupe, a figure invented to keep the indians faithful to catholicism in Mexico. YOU go and watch and do more homework.

[Old_Mil]

Hinduism is a monotheistic religion in the same way that modern Episcopalianism is a Christian religion.

[Petronski]

I recommend that you don't feed the Catholic-hating trolls.

[Old_Mil]

Vaishnavas never kill or eat any meat whatsoever. This is my tradition.

So odds are - especially if you're an American - you're a Hare Krishna.

[Coleus]

the FR is full of them and they all say the same thing.

[little jeremiah]

As a person who has studied the Vedic scriptures and practiced the religion taught therein for 35 years, I disagree with you. What is presented as Hinduism is often not. Think of it this way:

How many Christians (self professed) think abortion is okay? Pre or extra marital sex is okay? Homosexuality is okay? etcetcetc. Are such people representing or espousing what Jesus taught?

Every religion has those who understand the deep meaning therein and those who are shallow follwers, and those who are wolves in sheeps' clothing.

[little jeremiah]

Nope.

More and more Indians are eating meat due to malign influences, just as many Christians promote and/or practice vicious activities which entirely opposed to the teachings of the Bible, both OT and NT.

There are two main schools of Hinduism - Vaishnavites and Shaivites. Each has subsets. Followers of Shankaracharya - Shaivites - traditionally are strict vegetarians, as are Vaishnavas. Durga and Kali worshippers often eat meat but it is supposed to be done in certain rituals, not a daily affair. I don't have time at the moment to get in a big discussion about it; if you want to I will have time later.

People like to pin labels on others (and themselves); to me that is not only boring but very shallow. Most people would think I'm not a Christian, even though I accept Jesus' teachings as perfectly divine and inspired directly by God. And I try to follow them. So is someone a real Christian even if they don't accept his teachings or try to follow them but they just pledge allegiance and go to a church every Sunday?

[Nihil Obstat]

There is a difference between Veneration and Worship. Pious children know the difference very well, too bad you don't.

The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart.*

*Martin Luther's sermon of September 1, 1522

[Coleus]

you need to do the homework, as I said, attend a mass and listen to the prayers. If you are going to come on a catholic thread and bash catholics, at the very least, try to say something original. You are making yourself appear very little by the "same old" comments other catholic-bashing freepers have made. Now go think a little bit and "try" to answer my question regarding the Catholic Mass. Since you're such an expert. BTW, what religion are you?

[Religion Moderator]

Discuss the issues all you want but do not make it personal.

[Old_Mil]

How many Christians (self professed) think abortion is okay? Pre or extra marital sex is okay? Homosexuality is okay? etcetcetc. Are such people representing or espousing what Jesus taught?

People who do such things are not Christians. As Jesus said, if you love him, you will love his teachings. Hating what he taught clearly indicates their state of unbelief.