Why Is An Occult Revival Sweeping the Globe?

Cutting Edge Magazine ^ | Aug 22nd, 2004 | Thomas Horn

[pascendi]

"This religion forum has become a snake pit."

The preservation of the Catholic Faith is handled on a battlefield, sink. Now if your idea of the dynamiccs of salvation has something to do with whipping out a picnic on a battlefield, then clearly you and I won't see eye to eye in regards to the Faith.

But look, where's your tolerance? Reach out to your traditional brethren and show your ecumenical spirit.

[sinkspur]

Is Rome a bastard Church?

[thor76]

Yup.....looks like were in for a right fine spittin contest here!

[sinkspur]

Rome is the "bastard Church"?

[Mockingbird For Short]

I notice, as I always do, that anything related to paganism has a very strong gay sex slant to it.

I, too, have noticed this, biblewonk. In fact, I remember my homosexual, anti-God, brother once casually referring to himself and his partner as "pagans." I retained my self-control.

[pascendi]

"Is Rome a bastard Church?"

The answer is that in the Church, and in Rome, the wheat and the tares are tangled together.

So while Rome will always be the rightful head of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church, elements from within the Church can corrupt Rome to one degree or another, but never such that the gates of Hell prevail against her.

So it's merely a matter of making the proper distinctions.

[thor76]

I notice, as I always do, that anything related to paganism has a very strong gay sex slant to it.

You have no idea how "on the mark" that comment is!

Here is a part of the explanation for that: anything other then normal sex between man & wife is an inversion of the proper use/purpose of sex as ordained by God. Gay sex is an obvious inversion; and inversion bears the hoofmark of the devil.

Secondly, in the occult, as one advances in it, there is no "right or wrong". Aliester Crowley's mantra was: "do want thou wilt; that is the whole of the law". And the right of a person to sexual perversion would be protected and upheld in such circles. Of course, the occult is all about inversion of what is good, natural, and of God.

In initiation into certain levels of the occult, there is indulgence in pansexuality in both spontaneous and ritualized forms. This is to prove that the initiate has no resistance....morals, whichwould prevent his activities in the craft, or threaten the "rights" of other practicioners.

This was told me by persons who came out of the occult and were converted to Christianity.

[broadsword]

The cross is (rightly) seen as the enemy in a way that Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism is not.

In hoc signo vinces!

[ninenot]

No, Thor, it IS a strange way to look at it.

You state that "40 years" of poor instruction causes these problems, and ignore the rest of human history, which demonstrates clearly that sin has been around for a while.

While I agree with you that we've recently been in a VERY disappointing cycle, it's simply illogical in the extreme to state, as you do, that Satanism is the fault of the Church.

That viewpoint is myopic, at best. You're losing credibility.

[ninenot]

Since the fear of God is the beginning of all wisdom, thor is entirely correct to remind us of the need to fear God.

But he would do well to recall that Purgatory was flat-out eliminated for the 'good' thief.

The difficulty is in divining precisely how God will be at once all-just AND all-merciful.

[Desdemona]

save for later

[ninenot]

A battlefield it is--but the FIRST battlefield is within ourselves.

The mandate is to do what is right, and that's a personal charge which becomes corporate in the communion of saints.

The moaning and groaning about 'the Bishops' and 'the Pope' and 'the Curia' has been extant since, probably, 33.1 AD. So what? While some of it is more than amply justified, what does it do, aside from make YOU feel better?

Establishing a community of pissers and moaners was not the intent of Christ, but it does seem to be the intent of the editors of the Remnant.

[pascendi]

You're clearing using the phrase Satanism is the fault of the Church to render a meaning of it that wasn't the same point which thor76 was attempting to make. Correct me if I'm wrong, thor.

"That viewpoint is myopic, at best."

Now that it's twisted into something else, maybe it is myopic, but it might not be thor's myopia but yours instead. That's how these dialogues with neocatholicism generally work.

As for the solution for losing credibility? The most popular fix: copy and paste something from EWTN. Instant credibility.

[biblewonk]

I always try to circle around gay pride when it occurs in CR Iowa. It is very interesting to see how many of the cars owned by the 'people' there have pagan bumper stickers along with all the rainbows and "I kiss boys" and all that wonderful stuff. Actually I guess it becomes less and less amazing when you think about it.

[biblewonk]

It makes even more sense if you consider the verse that says "Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft". They are the same thing and as you stated, rebellion against what God has ordained as good and proper sex is, by definition, witchcraft. The pentagrams and other trappings are merely window dressings.

[ninenot]

The further one goes from Rome, the more daft their posts.

[hergus]

"Proably true, but that does not negate the fact that in other countries where people are leading Goldless lives, Paganism has had a massive growth....."

The ultimate Freudian slip...

[pascendi]

"The further one goes from Rome, the more daft their posts."

Of course, if you were to flesh out a statement like this, one would once again find that there's really no substance to it. There never is. It's just attitude stuff.

[P.O.E.]

Secular humanism cannot eradicate man's basic desires and the eternal questions. Something will fill that void. While some adherents may attempt to inculcate the State as that void-filler, the stuff of occultism may beat them to it.

[Mockingbird For Short]

Insightful point.