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(LIVE THREAD) The Papal Conclave, Interregnum, Cardinals, Conclave Facts, Prayer and other links
EWTN.com ^ | 04-16-05 | EWTN.com

Posted on 04/16/2005 9:08:24 PM PDT by Salvation

Prayer for the Election of a Pope - Lord God, you are our eternal shepherd and guide. In your mercy grant your Church a shepherd who will walk in your ways and whose watchful care will bring us your blessing. We ask this through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever. Amen. (Collect, Mass for the Election of a Pope, Roman Missal)


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To: fatima

I will be watching EWTN online probably a lot tomorrow...If I can't watch it on computer, I don't normally get to watch it.


61 posted on 04/17/2005 9:07:14 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: anonymoussierra

That would only be two days. Hmmmm. Who do you think it will be?


62 posted on 04/17/2005 9:07:38 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Norman Bates

I think you are right. Mass in the morning. I posted it above. Then they start.


63 posted on 04/17/2005 9:08:22 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: fatima

I couldn't get my computer to work during the Pope's funeral, but you can get EWTN on your computer. Go to the programming link or multimedia link on the first posts. It should get you there.


64 posted on 04/17/2005 9:09:55 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

I do not know good friend Good G-D do know this person pray good friend I do feel time do come be strong!!!thank you


65 posted on 04/17/2005 9:10:35 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen."Totus Tuus!!!!)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Thanks for the time frame. I'm dizzy trying to figure out what actual time on the west coast that would be.

5:00 AM??
10:00 PM??


66 posted on 04/17/2005 9:12:52 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Thanks Beautiful -the problem is not hookup but time.


67 posted on 04/17/2005 9:13:17 PM PDT by fatima (Prayer's for our guy Texascowboy.)
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To: fatima

Thank you"fatima"


68 posted on 04/17/2005 9:14:45 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen."Totus Tuus!!!!)
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To: fatima

Boy do I understand that one. Tomorrow morning I need to go over to church to turn in a bunch of money. We are doing a Book Study on Scott Hahn's book, "The Lamb's Supper" and I'm carring around all the cash and check! Yikes.

And Tuesday night I will be leading the first book study group -- six weeks.


69 posted on 04/17/2005 9:15:35 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Could you say one really good Hail Mary for me tom.Thank you.


70 posted on 04/17/2005 9:16:21 PM PDT by fatima (Prayer's for our guy Texascowboy.)
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To: Salvation

Salvation, thanks so much for all of your hard work!


71 posted on 04/17/2005 9:23:18 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: Salvation; fatima; Knitting A Conundrum

Thanks everyone. I will be keeping an eye out probably starting after 10. Since it is the first day tomorrow should I expect one vote or two?


72 posted on 04/17/2005 9:23:22 PM PDT by Norman Bates (In memoriam: Pope John Paul II†, Theresa Marie Schindler†)
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To: Norman Bates
Before the Conclave


 

Before the Conclave

The days after the funeral and before the Conclave begins offers the cardinals an opportunity to discuss the state of the Church. They may not do so in a manner which constitutes politicking or electioneering for office or for votes.

"The Cardinal electors shall ... abstain from any form of pact, agreement, promise or other commitment of any kind which could oblige them to give or deny their vote to a person or persons" (UDG 81)

Nor may the Cardinals,

"enter into any stipulations, committing themselves of common accord to a certain course of action should one of them be elevated to the Pontificate" (UDG 82).

Such promises would, in fact, be null and void (ibid).

There may, however, be "during the period in which the See is vacant, the exchange of views concerning the election" (UDG 81)

If despite the solemn law of the Church, and the penalty of automatic excommunication for selling or trading votes, the validity of the election itself shall not be in doubt. Universi Dominici Gregis states,

79. If—God forbid—in the election of the Roman Pontiff the crime of simony were to be perpetrated, I decree and declare that all those guilty thereof shall incur excommunication latae sententiae. At the same time I remove the nullity or invalidity of the same simoniacal provision, in order that—as was already established by my Predecessors—the validity of the election of the Roman Pontiff may not for this reason be challenged.


73 posted on 04/17/2005 9:23:25 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Norman Bates
Entry into the Conclave


 

Entry into the Conclave

The day on which the Conclave begins is ordinarily to be the fifteenth day after the death of a Pope, the 16th day of the Interregnum. However, the College of Cardinals is given the faculty by Universi Dominici Gregis to defer its beginning "for serious reasons" up to the 20th day after death (21st day of the Vacancy). It must begin on or before that day.

On the morning of the first day on which the Conclave is to begin, the Cardinal Electors gather in St. Peter’s Basilica, or another place as may be determined by the College, to celebrate a Votive Mass for the Election of the Pope.

In the afternoon they gather in the Pauline Chapel of the Apostolic Palace. Invoking the assistance of the Holy Spirit with the Veni Creator Spiritu, they process to the Sistine Chapel. There they take a solemn oath to observe the prescriptions of the law governing the election, to observe the secrecy obliged, to not assist any secular power which may try to influence the election. They also swear that if elected they will faithfully carry out the Petrine Office, and protect the spiritual and temporal rights of the Holy See.

After the last Cardinal Elector has taken the oath, the Master of Papal Liturgical Ceremonies gives the order Extra omnes, commanding everyone not authorized to remain in the Conclave to leave the Chapel. Besides the Electors, only the Master of Papal Liturgical Ceremonies and the ecclesiastic chosen beforehand to give a meditation to the Cardinals on the seriousness of their duties, remains. When the meditation has been concluded, both of these men depart the Sistine Chapel.

After the Cardinals recite prayers provided in the proper Ordo for the Conclave, the Cardinal Dean inquiries if any Electors have questions concerning the norms and procedures. Once these have been clarified, by a majority decision of the Cardinals  the election can proceed.

Only the Cardinal Electors may remain in the Sistine Chapel during the actual voting, which by law is from after the ballots have been distributed until after they have been tabulated and checked. Outside of the time of actual voting, the Secretary of the College, the Master of Papal Liturgical Ceremonies and the 2 Masters of Ceremonies are present to assist the Conclave.

On this first day of the Conclave, only one ballot is permitted. On the other days of the Conclave, two ballots are permitted in the morning session and two are permitted in the afternoon session.


74 posted on 04/17/2005 9:25:27 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: All

**On this first day of the Conclave, only one ballot is permitted. On the other days of the Conclave, two ballots are permitted in the morning session and two are permitted in the afternoon session.**

So it looks like there can be four votes a day after the first day.


75 posted on 04/17/2005 9:28:20 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Aggie Mama

My pleasure. I think we will all enjoy this thread -- bouncing comments back and forth and checking on the facts at the same time.


76 posted on 04/17/2005 9:29:16 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Working for The Lord.It is hard but easy.Thy will be done Father and I will serve.We serve and our new Holy Father will serve and LEAD.


77 posted on 04/17/2005 9:30:21 PM PDT by fatima (Prayer's for our guy Texascowboy.)
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To: Salvation

Sorry, I'm being a pest aren't I? I can't seem to find the answers. You have made a great thread though, Salvation [Mrs. K ;-)].

Does anyone know the Veni Sancti Spiritus?


78 posted on 04/17/2005 9:31:31 PM PDT by Norman Bates (In memoriam: Pope John Paul II†, Theresa Marie Schindler†)
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To: Norman Bates

At least four but I think I have a clue.Night.


79 posted on 04/17/2005 9:32:25 PM PDT by fatima (Prayer's for our guy Texascowboy.)
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To: Salvation

I am officially an idiot. Obviously I am a terrifying researcher. Sorry Salvation. :-)


80 posted on 04/17/2005 9:33:02 PM PDT by Norman Bates (In memoriam: Pope John Paul II†, Theresa Marie Schindler†)
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