Posted on 01/24/2006 7:15:12 AM PST by Utah Binger
You win! I owe you one big whiskey or an Arizona beer or 6. We will meet in the parking lot at the MMM Memorial site down on Highway 18. My brother the bishop and his family live near there in Veyo. Possibly he will agree to preside over the sinning. For certain he will if he comes alone.
"Christianity is a religion hatched in hell." -Brigham Young
"The Christian's god is the Mormon's devil." - Brigham Young
Since when did the Mormon church become Christian?
My friend, I don't really care if the Mormons are Christians or not. They claim to be. Actually, though, in the line you quoted from an earlier post of mine, I was discussing some of the ugly things that have been done in the name of non-Mormon Christianity.
My point is that all religious groups are capable of, and have done, ugly things. When these things happen in the fairly distant past, we do not condemn the current followers of a religion for what happened over 100 years ago.
***Please, folks...no Mormon bashing.***
History in context is not bashing.
Hows about a long look at the MORRISITE MASSACRE in which dis-illusioned former mormons were murdered by B. Young's militia. They surrounded the Morrisite camp and bombarded it with cannon fire before attacking, shooting down men, women and children.
And there are several other massacres of other groups also, but none hit the nerve like the MMM.
It's not quite that simple. A number of the pioneers were openly bragging and taunting that they were parts of the mobs that had murdered, raped and pillaged Mormons back in Missouri and they they would do so again given the opportunity.
Isn't it interesting that films are made about the Mountain Meadows massacre, but none about Hans Mill.
Well, of course, it could just be because the church was NOT officially involved or sanctioned the actions and that it WAS a rogue group of Mormons reacting to the fact that some of these pioneers were bragging to the Mormons that they had proudly taken part in the mob murders, rape and pillaging of Mormons back in Missouri.
What would you do if a man came near your property, saw you and said:
Hey, Bill, I raped your wife and burned your home. I'm gonna do it again to you and all you devil Mormons.
Make one.
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Brigham Young was probably quoting Thomas Jefferson, who had similar views on the organized Christian religions of his day.
Since when did the Mormon church become Christian?
Since the Title Page of the Book of Mormon ...to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile, that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God...
Read it some time. And, oh, get quotes in context, not from some book by the Tanners.
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Why don't you?
Are there any mainline Christian churches that consider Mormon's to be Christian?
And that's relevant to this thread how?
You have no source or evidence for that. While I do not condone the acts of those in Missouri, it certainly is explainable.
Along comes a religion that has more in common with paganism, led by a tyrant who has a lust for multiple wives. His doctrines & proclamations, fly from the cuff and have little basis in biblical theology. He boasts of a religious war and a desire to overthrow the US and establish himself in control. He was martyred by a mob that was fed-up with his antics and the fact that he had disagreed with an anti-mormon (ex-Mormon) Press, to the extent that he had the printing press dragged into the street and busted up.
Well, maybe I do condone what the missourians did . . .
I have no interest in the subject.
You are quick to blame the Arkansas immigrants for stirring up ill feelings towards themselves. Do you think the Mormons might have also been instrumental in creating bad blood with their neighboring Missourians.
Best advice, my friend, is to just roll your eyes and ignore threads like these. They seem to just attract the same posters who seem to get their jollies off of re-hashing the same things over and over again despite the fact that they happened 150 years ago and have no relevance today.
So there's a new anti-mormon movie being made? What a surprise. ((yawn))
So when & why did Mormonism become a Christian religion, if it's second president suggested that christianity was a religion hatched in Hell?
Since the Title Page of the Book of Mormon ...to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile, that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God... Please explain to me where Brigham went astray, if LDS is a christian church. especially considering the bizarre doctrines of that church.
Could it be Mormon bashing? Or just general Christian fundamentalist bashing (Hollyweirdos don't know the difference between Mormons and Christian fundamentalists)?
Nope, but since that decision is up to God and not the Baptists, it's irrelevant.
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