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Protestant Churches Disappearing; More Catholics Than Total of All 19 Prot. Denominations Listed
Analysis of National Council of Churches' data ^ | March 30, 2006 | Dangus

Posted on 03/30/2006 9:45:17 PM PST by dangus

The National Council of Churches' have just reported church membership for the 2006 yearbook. It's quite an interesting picture:

The Catholic Church is the largest and numerically fastest growing church in America, with 67.8 million members, a growth of about 563,000 members.

Many non-denominational churches, not listed in the report, have been growing rapidly in the recent past.

Proportionally, the fastest growing church in America is the Assemblies of God, (10th largest) growing at a 1.81% rate, by adding 50,000 members. That's over twice the growth rate of the Catholic church, but 1/10th of the increase in members of the Catholic Church, because the Assemblies of God is only 4% of the size of the Catholic Church, having 2.78 million members

The Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints, (4th largest) with nearly twice (6.0 million) members of the Assemblies of God had nearly the same growth rate, 1.74%.

Looking quickly, one might mistakenly think the Orthodox Church in America (24th largest) is growing amazingly quickly. The Council reports 6.4% more members than it reported last year, but this is the first update in many years. Previously, the Orthodox Church in America had reported simply the same rough estimate year after year: 1 million.

Meanwhile, the Council reported the Greek Orthodox Church (17th largest) as having 1.5 million members; the church doesn't report annually, but just a few years ago, it had nearly 2 million members. Of course, that report itself was quite old, so the decline isn't that amazingly fast. Still, unless there is rapid, unforeseen growth in the smaller Orthodox congregations, it means that overall, the Orthodox Church is likely declining, and what few Orthodox are remaining are switching to the more generic Orthodox church.

Many of the Protestant churches in decline are probably no surprise: United Methodist, 3rd largest, down 0.79% to 8.186 million; Evangelical Lutheran, 7th largest, down 1.09% to 4.93 million; Presbyterian Church (USA), 9th largest, down 1.6% to 3.19 million; Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, 14th, down 1.01% to 2.464 million; Episcopal, 15th, down 1.55% to 2.28 million*; American Baptist, down 0.57% to 1.433 million; and, with the fastest collapse of them all, the United Church of Christ, which has made a strong push to present itself as gay-friendly, dropped 2.48% to only 1.266 million.

What may be surprisin are some of the other denominations in decline. Southern Baptists (2nd) are down again, 1.05% to 16.3 million; and Jehovah's Witnesses, (25th) which were growing just last year, dropped a significant 1.07% to 1.03 million.

Five Baptist conventions, mostly black, (ranked 6th, 12th, 13th, 20th, and 22nd) report very old, and very suspect numbers. Totalled, they would be well over 16 million, but they are believed to actually have far, far fewer members, clinging for political purposes to very old, very rough estimates.

Amazingly, not one of the 25 largest denominations in America was a growing Protestant denomination, except for the Assemblies of God which are not always counted as Protestant.

Combined, the 13 reporting churches had a total membership of 118.7 million. The memberships claimed most recently by the 12 churches that did not issue new reports a combined membership of about 30 million, but is probably closer to 20 million. Even with the very possibly significantly exaggerated estimates of these churches included, however, there are now more members in America of the Catholic Church than in all of the 19 Protestant denominations in the top 25 denominations combined!

[*The National Council of Churches reports 2,463,747 members of the Episcopal Church. This is, however, exactly the same number of members reported by the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod, the next largest church, and it creates a data conflict with last years' numbers. The number used last years' numbers as a baseline, and subtracted this years' reported decline. Also, the Episcopal church is not counted among the 17 Protestant denominations, following the practice of the National Council of Churches, the Encyclopedia Britannica, the World Almanac, and many other references.]


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To: dangus

I just posted the following on the thread about Savage.:

I have no doubt, since the Episcopal church went down the toilet. After being raised as, and a life long Episcopalian, I left them over six years ago.

Here in Slovakia, the Catholic Church is very strong.
In Bratislava, I have a choice of over 10 different beautiful Catholic churches, all within a 5 minute walk of each other.


21 posted on 03/31/2006 12:15:38 AM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: dangus

Salvation is not about numbers.


22 posted on 03/31/2006 12:42:57 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: dangus

Isn't the RC church like the Mafia, once you are on the books, you never leave?


23 posted on 03/31/2006 12:57:16 AM PST by Gamecock (I’m so thankful for the active obedience of Christ. No hope without it. (Machen on his deathbed.)
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To: dangus
Part of the problem with the LCMS is pure demographics. Many of the parishes were immigrant churches in rural areas. Now most of those have declining membership and few young people to replace those who are dying off. My own home church is probably going this way, since there just aren't enough farmers to support a rural church in that area.

The LCMS parish in town is growing rather fast. Partially because of the school, and partially because a lot of angry ELCA and medium church Episcopals are heading in.

Don't know about the reported numbers, they seem off to what I have seen internally. Kind of like inflation numbers, I am not sure what the criteria is to determine if someone remains on the roles or not.
24 posted on 03/31/2006 5:05:07 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: dangus; MineralMan

OK, but what about us non-religious? Are we growing? Am I still counted as "Catholic" by this unofficial religious census because I was registered at a Church as recently as five years ago?


25 posted on 03/31/2006 5:16:25 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

They have to go and get registered. If they don't they aren't in the count.


26 posted on 03/31/2006 5:34:33 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Gamecock

Same, I have heard, with the LDS and Episcopal.

Actually, those numbers are based on head counts of registered families in the parishes. And many, if not most, purge their records from time to time, based on whose contributing and who's known to attend. This has to do with things like baptisms and first communions.

I bet something like this is true for all groups who are claimed once in, always in.


27 posted on 03/31/2006 5:37:14 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Clemenza

No. YOu have to register yearly.


28 posted on 03/31/2006 5:54:28 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus
I'm happy to hear that. Don't want to have somebody including me where I shouldn't be. ;-)

I can tell you that Catholics have declined in terms of their share of the population in New York, as have Jews, while the non-religious have grown.

Of course, where I am writing these words (Washington State) the non-religious are at 28%, the largest "denomination" in the state and the highest proportion of non-religious in the world.

Methinks the Catholic Church growth in strongest in the South and the West, while declining (in terms of percentage of the population) in places like New York, Mass, and (possibly) New Jersey.

29 posted on 03/31/2006 5:58:26 AM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: dangus
"Many non-denominational churches, not listed in the report, have been growing rapidly in the recent past."
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Enough said.
30 posted on 03/31/2006 6:02:25 AM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Salvation is not about numbers.

Yep! Christ calls us all, even those who reject him on a daily basis. The health of a Church isn't so important. The overall hope is that the number of Christians tends to infinity. So, come on Protestants and non-denoms ... lets follow Christ and not look at the numbers as a gauge of which Church is doing better in a horse race. That is our fallen nature calling, not Christ's vision of the Kingdom.

I, as a practicing Catholic, don't see it that way. We all are the body of Christ, relying on His grace, full of faith, hope and love. This should not be seen as negative in a time of such relativism. It is good news that any Christian Church is growing! The growth of Christianity is good and should be hoped and prayed for. No?
31 posted on 03/31/2006 6:12:51 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: wmfights; dangus
"Many non-denominational churches, not listed in the report, have been growing rapidly in the recent past."
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Enough said.


How do one know? I mean outside of your own reality, is there a bean counter somewhere collecting the non-denominational people numbers? Do they distribute the numbers on a yearly basis or more often?
32 posted on 03/31/2006 6:19:42 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: Clemenza

"OK, but what about us non-religious? Are we growing?"

Who knows. Most non-religious folks aren't part of any organized group, so it's tough to count them. I'd say that the numbers are, and will remain, unknown.


33 posted on 03/31/2006 6:20:50 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Gamecock

Actually, the Catholic church does quite a lot to maintain an accurate, annual census.

Your perception isn't baseless: In many polls, people reply that they are Catholic even when they have left the Catholic church, as if to validate their position: "I'm a Catholic, and I think gays should get married; I'm a Catholic, and I think the schools should hand out condoms in the second grade," yadda yadda yadda... Then when they get asked how frequently they go to church, they tell the pollster how much they hate the Catholic church. So they don't go to church, they don't agree with any of the church's most basic teachings, they consider organized religion to be inherently corrupt, and they proudly worship pagan gods, but they tell pollsters that they are Catholic?

Further, there can be confusion as regards to baptism and Catholics in nations with established churches. Once baptized, a person remains forever a part of the church, according to Catholic faith. But that neither means that their salvation is assured, or they are considered Catholic: Baptism removes the stain of original sin, but can increase the judgment of committed sin. And nearly all Christians' rites of baptism are considered valid, so that hardly means they are members of the CATHOLIC Church (tm).

Finally, in many nations, C+P>T, or Catholics + Protestant > Total citizens. I believe... and may totally be wrong... that the reason why the number of Catholics remains higher in several largely apostate nations is that, having formerly had established religions, people continue registering with the Catholic church as they register with the state. I know the registration is not one and the same, but they can be very synchronized.

In Latin American countries, where there are very few priests per capita, there are probably very different registration rules; they'd be lucky to see a priest come to town once a year, let alone register each year! And I have heard that it is quite common for people to register with whoevere comes to town, accumulating several registrations in several sects.

I have a Philippino friend who is fairly ecumenical. She breaks me up. She remains the most devout of Catholics, but she'll never turn down the opportunity to reply affirmatively any time a friend invites her to go to a Protestant preacher. She believes, as the Catholic church teaches, in constant renewal of baptism, so she always goes along with any calls to be be baptized in the spirit, and would never pass up the chance to express her immense love for each member of the trinity, or to be prayed over.

So she'll enthusiastically sign up for any literature (probably inadvertantly registering at the same time); she'll respond to every altar call. The poor girl has probably become a member of 300 denominations just since I've known her!... But she is an everlast Catholic...


34 posted on 03/31/2006 6:27:03 AM PST by dangus
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
I n all honesty how many nondoms are there in this country, many who have left the traditional denominations for various reasons and have gone to the non denominationals churches are not being counted.

The fastest growing group I'm told.

35 posted on 03/31/2006 6:27:07 AM PST by Protagoras (The world is full of successful idiots and genius failures.)
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To: dangus
I don't think membership numbers are an accurate portrayal of actual Catholics. In my experience with people I am not related to, most people are baptized Catholics for cultural or practical reasons, not religious ones.

Naturally, I know many actual Catholics from my parish, but the self proclaimed Catholic people I've worked with, or live among in my neighborhood, will have their children baptized so they can get into the parish school, or because their parents are Catholic and it is just something one does when one has a baby.

I think Jewish people also have a cultural component to their self proclaimed religious affiliation, but you rarely hear that one is a Methodist or Lutheran for cultural reasons.

36 posted on 03/31/2006 6:29:49 AM PST by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: MineralMan
"tough to count them."

Since we have GPS we can have everyone embedded with a "belief chip." In order to change it, just pass through a church/mosque/temple/hut/tent door. There could be a side door for visitors.

We could find out what each herd is doing. Marketers would love this. Statisticians would love this.

Maybe this is happening now in the Catholic Church. I always feel a little itch on my right buttock when I go into church. Dooo Dooo Dooo Doooo...
37 posted on 03/31/2006 6:35:13 AM PST by klossg (GK - God is good!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I specifically added in the stuff about nondenominational churches and smaller, conservative, breakaway churches to the main article so as to not sound like I was saying to protestants, "haha, my church is growing; your church is shrinking!" I really have no news at all to report about how they are doing, but thought that silence about them might also communicate a message I don't mean to send.

But frankly, given the scandals the Catholic church has been through -- the corrupt leadership, the supposedly alienating style of church conservatives and Pope Benedict, and the blistering attacks against it from the left (MSM) and the right (incessant sermons against Catholic doctrines) -- I think the Catholic church is doing pretty good to be growing the way it is; and I think its growth says things about conservative values that support ALL conservative religions, in that a church with very large conservative and liberal factions is growing wherever it finds truth, and that ain't among the liberals!


38 posted on 03/31/2006 6:35:56 AM PST by dangus
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To: justshutupandtakeit; dangus

I think you pretty much covered it, dangus.

My own experience is that many of the illegals came here in pursuit of their own god, money, and to escape the confines of their own culture which includes the Church and the morality She teaches.


39 posted on 03/31/2006 6:39:09 AM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Gamecock
Isn't the RC church like the Mafia, once you are on the books, you never leave?

Not usually. If they don't know you, and you never put an envelope in the collection plate, and you don't have a child in the parish school, they usually try to purge you from the parish registry after 3-4 years.

People typically don't bother to notify the parish office when they (physically) move away, anyway, and there's no central database of parish registrations, so they have to do something like that.

40 posted on 03/31/2006 6:39:21 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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