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Defiant female (Catholic) priest says Mass
Mercury News ^ | June 1, 2006 | Kim Vo

Posted on 06/01/2006 8:44:27 AM PDT by NYer

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To: FJ290

I hope she realizes the lie she lives BEFORE she faces God in the next life.


101 posted on 06/01/2006 9:16:17 PM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: NYer
``My name is Victoria Rue,'' she said. ``And I am a Roman Catholic woman priest.''

Not in this world, she is an abomination.

102 posted on 06/01/2006 9:17:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy


DITTO!


103 posted on 06/01/2006 9:19:13 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Petronski
I hope she realizes the lie she lives BEFORE she faces God in the next life.

Me too. She's definitely got trouble ahead if she doesn't.

104 posted on 06/01/2006 9:21:57 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Petronski

Ditto .. how revolting.


106 posted on 06/01/2006 10:05:46 PM PDT by STARWISE (((They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL autho)
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To: RobbyS

It is like practicing law without being admitted to the bar or maybe more like hearing legal cases and rendering judgements without proper authority. Another example would be dressing up like an officer and trying to command troops.


or dressing up like a man and dating women ?


107 posted on 06/01/2006 10:15:26 PM PDT by daku ("Behold this creature that walks like a man. It wants ketchup on its hot dog.")
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To: onyx; Petronski; All
Vatican disciplines Legionaries' founder after sex abuse review

" Pope Benedict XVI has asked the elderly founder of the conservative order Legionaries of Christ to stop celebrating public Masses and live a life of "prayer and penance" following a Vatican investigation into allegations he sexually abused seminarians decades ago.

The Vatican in its announcement Friday didn't say whether it had determined if the accusations against the 86-year-old Mexican priest, the Rev. Marcial Maciel, were true. But canon law experts said the Vatican wouldn't have imposed such a severe penalty unless it found at least some validity to the complaints.

The case is significant because Maciel is the most prominent Catholic Church official to be disciplined by the Vatican for alleged involvement in child sexual abuse. In addition, it marks the first major abuse penalty approved by Benedict since he became pope last year, and shows he isn't afraid to go after prelates who enjoyed particular favor with Pope John Paul II."

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Potential pedophiles are targeted

Today's seminaries aggressively screen candidates for the priesthood, subjecting them to rigorous testing intended to weed out not only potential pedophiles, but also men who would make bad priests. And seminary officials say that despite the shortage of priests, they turn away numerous applicants and throw others out after admission. Seminaries all include classes on ''human formation,'' at which sexuality and celibacy are discussed with varying degrees of candor.

''If we can't talk about it, we then start hiding things and that's how we got into trouble,'' said Russeau, who will soon leave his parish work in Arizona to become a recruiter of seminary candidates among high school and college students. ''We were hiding the way people were feeling and the way people were acting. We've learned that we need to screen differently. I've been told by my vocations director that one of my most important jobs will be to know who to say no to.''

108 posted on 06/01/2006 10:20:30 PM PDT by STARWISE (((They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL autho)
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To: daku

If these women want to dress up like priests, they should wait till Marti Gras.


109 posted on 06/01/2006 10:20:34 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: lastchance
I think the Bishops involved are not Bishops of the Catholic Church but Bishops of renegade, self established churches that call themselves " catholic " churches. But the Bishops have no standing with Rome.

I wouldn't make that assumption. There are a few bishops both in Europe and in this country who full well believe themselves smarter than 2,000 years of Magesterial teaching.

110 posted on 06/02/2006 2:30:47 AM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: lastchance
I think the Bishops involved are not Bishops of the Catholic Church but Bishops of renegade, self established churches that call themselves " catholic " churches. But the Bishops have no standing with Rome.

I wouldn't make that assumption. There are a few bishops both in Europe and in this country who full well believe themselves smarter than 2,000 years of Magesterial teaching.

111 posted on 06/02/2006 2:30:49 AM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: NYer

She claims to respect the authority of the Pope. Well, then, what I would recommend she do is declare herself to BE the Pope, speak infallibly from 'The Chair' of Peter and declare women as now candidates for Holy Orders.

Maybe, she ought not stop there. Perhaps she can name herself to be God and not leave any unanswered questions.

With all apologies to those who suffer with mental illness but the insane have taken over the asylum.


112 posted on 06/02/2006 4:50:22 AM PDT by veritas2002
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To: TheCrusader
"A few Cardinals/Bishops tried to cover it up to protect the Church from calumniation and media assassination and the attornies of the abused boys,"

You must be referring to Cardinal Law.
And his reward for all his efforts?
A cushy job at the Vatican.
113 posted on 06/02/2006 5:15:44 AM PDT by JRochelle
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To: Petronski; ArrogantBustard
SACRAMENTORUM SANCTITATIS TUTELA

POPE JOHN PAUL II

APOSTOLIC LETTER

GIVEN MOTU PROPRIO

by which are promulgated Norms concerning the more grave delicts reserved to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

The Safeguarding of the Sanctity of the Sacraments, especially the Most Holy Eucharist and Penance, and the keeping of the faithful, called to communion with the Lord, in their observance of the sixth commandment of the Decalogue, demand that the Church itself, in her pastoral solicitude, intervene to avert dangers of violation, so as to provide for the salvation of souls “which must always be the supreme law in the Church” (Codex Iuris Canonici, can. 1752)...

.. . Finally, by the authority with which we are invested, in the Apostolic Constitution, Pastor Bonus, promulgated on June 28, 1988, we expressly established, “[The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith] examines delicts against the faith and more grave delicts whether against morals or committed in the celebration of the sacraments, which have been referred to it and, whenever necessary, proceeds to declare or impose canonical sanctions according to the norm of both common and proper law,”[4] thereby further confirming and determining the judicial competence of the same Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith as an Apostolic Tribunal.

.... SUBSTANTIVE NORMS Art. 1 § 1. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, according to the norm of art. 52 of the Apostolic Constitution Pastor Bonus,[6] judges more grave delicts whether against morals or committed in the celebration of the sacraments, and, whenever necessary, proceeds to declare or impose canonical sanctions according to the norm of both common and proper law, without prejudice to the competence of the Apostolic Penitentiary[7] and with Agendi ratio in doctrinarum examine[8] remaining in force.

§ 2. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith judges the delicts mentioned in § 1 according to the norms which follow.

Art. 2

§ 1. The delicts against the sanctity of the Most Holy Sacrifice and Sacrament of the Eucharist, reserved to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith for judgement are: 1º the taking or retaining for a sacrilegious purpose, or the throwing away of the consecrated species[9] mentioned in can. 1367 of the Code of Canon Law[10] and in can. 1442 of the Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches;[11]

the attempting of the liturgical offering of the Eucharistic Sacrifice mentioned in can. 1378, § 2, n. 1, of the Code of Canon Law,[12] or the simulation of the same, mentioned in can. 1379 of the Code of Canon Law[13] and in can. 1443 of the Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches;[14]

*I'm not a Canonist but it appears that if the local Bishop gave the info to the CDF then they could excomunicate the lady formally. Of course, the local Bishop could excommunicate her himself but that would bring unwelcome attention to her and these clowns are best ignored. Even Non-Catholics recognise these nitwits ain't priests

114 posted on 06/02/2006 5:29:33 AM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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To: dangus

The infamous 'Donor Number 401'?


115 posted on 06/02/2006 5:52:37 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: FJ290

Check out this line later on in that article:

"'No, I will not practice my faith with the real Church until they adopt basic human rights for women, gays, lesbians and others they currently marginalize,' Solsten said."

That has to be the most absurd line I have ever heard. If you know where "the real Church" was, wouldn't you want to practice your faith there? These people make no sense.


116 posted on 06/02/2006 8:11:04 AM PDT by tlRCta (St. Joseph, pray for us!)
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To: markomalley

No, I think I did read something about the Bishops having been given the boot, but it wasn't this particular incident.

I *do* have this vague notion that the bishops involved were *not* SSPX, however. Call it a hunch. :^D


117 posted on 06/02/2006 9:09:23 AM PDT by dangus
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To: veritas2002

Veritas, the woman is an active Lesbian, and you are going to treat her as if the problem is she doesn't know she's not valid?

>> With all apologies to those who suffer with mental illness but the insane have taken over the asylum. <<

COOL! Does this mean we now get ice cream EVERY Friday?


118 posted on 06/02/2006 9:11:17 AM PDT by dangus
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To: markomalley

Time to give Benedict a big broom and a big hickory switch.


119 posted on 06/02/2006 9:16:23 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: JRochelle

Cardinal Law was not given a cushy job at the Vatican. He is in Rome, but not the Vatican. He is working at a job which has been his since 1982 or thereabouts.

Ancient Catholic tradition was that the Cardinals were selected from among the priests and deacons of the diocese of Rome. To globalize the Cardinalate while maintaining the tradition, to this day, all Cardinals are made pastors of historical churches in Rome. Being from the informally mother archdiocese in the U.S. (Baltimore is technically the mother diocese, but is now quite small), and being that the United States had the most religious of any Catholic nation besides Italy, he cardinal of Boston had always been granted a very important parish, that of Margaret Major. When Cardinal Law was removed from his job as archbishop, he simply went to perform his "day job."


120 posted on 06/02/2006 9:18:33 AM PDT by dangus
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