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Vatican opposes female clergy anywhere, gives reasons from Bible
Associated Press ^ | Saturday, July 8, 2006 | Richard N. Ostling

Posted on 07/08/2006 9:23:38 AM PDT by WestTexasWend

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To: WestTexasWend

Peter Kreeft has a very convincing argument against priestesses. The hour long lecture is found at:
http://www.peterkreeft.com/audio/09_priestesses.htm


201 posted on 07/08/2006 4:54:27 PM PDT by RockDoc
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To: marajade
So, I shouldn't argue with the Pope?

Stop beating around the bush and answer the question posed to you concerning 1 Tim. 2:11-12.

Take the Pope out of the picture for a minute because we are talking about an entirely different subject matter in another chapter of Timothy that you claim to follow so zealously. This doesn't have to do with the Pope, or married or unmarried priests, this has to do with the role of women in the Church according to Timothy.

202 posted on 07/08/2006 4:55:17 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Petrosius

"Priestly celibacy is a matter of extra-biblical apostolic tradition."

That's right. Its a belief what those in Catholic Church practices. But its not Biblically based.


203 posted on 07/08/2006 4:55:49 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: RockDoc
Peter Kreeft has a very convincing argument against priestesses. The hour long lecture is found at:

Thanks, I'll bookmark this so I can listen to this tommorow afternoon.

204 posted on 07/08/2006 4:56:29 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Petrosius

"I have shown another interpretation of the verse you cited that is consistent with priestly celibacy."

What verse is that? Are you saying that the Book of Timothy which is about the structure of Church, is not the authority upon which it should base itself?


205 posted on 07/08/2006 4:57:07 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
That's right. Its a belief what those in Catholic Church practices. But its not Biblically based.

Balderdash! See post #24.

206 posted on 07/08/2006 4:58:38 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: marajade
That's right. Its a belief what those in Catholic Church practices. But its not Biblically based.

Bingo! But neither is the insistence that priest must be married biblically based, your private interpretation of Scripture to the contrary not withstanding.

207 posted on 07/08/2006 4:59:46 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: FJ290

So I guess I should just shut up?


208 posted on 07/08/2006 5:00:16 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
What verse is that? Are you saying that the Book of Timothy which is about the structure of Church, is not the authority upon which it should base itself?

I think everyone here should stop responding to you until you expound on your own beliefs about 1 Timothy 2:11-12 which also explains about how the Church should base itself by NOT allowing women clergy.

209 posted on 07/08/2006 5:01:46 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: marajade

Should I have my husband get on the thread and cite chapter and verse so a "man" can then teach those men on this thread who simply can't the read the Word of God for themselves and understand?

Whoa, do I feel for your husband. What a trip you must be for him. I'd hate to be him sitting at the dinner table participating in dinner conversation, which would end up being more like the Spanish Inquisition. Dear, can't you simply read Timothy for yourself and understand, DEAR!!!
Listen up here. DEAR!!!!!!!!!!


210 posted on 07/08/2006 5:04:49 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: marajade
So I guess I should just shut up?

No, that's exactly what I want you to not do. I want you to answer the question directly about 1 Timothy 2:11-12 but you won't do it. You evade it like the plague.

211 posted on 07/08/2006 5:05:03 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Petrosius

"Bingo! But neither is the insistence that priest must be married biblically based, your private interpretation of Scripture to the contrary not withstanding."

You need big time help from the Holy Spirit in your life if that's your complete understanding of the Book of Timothy.


212 posted on 07/08/2006 5:06:15 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: FJ290

Again, I read the ENTIRE book of Timothy, do you?


213 posted on 07/08/2006 5:07:20 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: flaglady47

My husband agrees with me completely on what the Book of Timothy says.


214 posted on 07/08/2006 5:09:35 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Again, I read the ENTIRE book of Timothy, do you?

Yeah sure do and I know it backwards and forwards. I also know something else backwards and forwards. You won't give a straight answer on 1 Timothy 2:11-12. What's the matter? Are you afraid to respond?

215 posted on 07/08/2006 5:11:11 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: marajade
"My husband agrees with me completely on what the Book of Timothy says.

....or he can just get his **s out!"
216 posted on 07/08/2006 5:11:54 PM PDT by dollars_for_dogma
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To: flaglady47

"What a trip you must be for him."

I'm feisty, and he married me because I have that trait.


217 posted on 07/08/2006 5:11:54 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: dollars_for_dogma

What?


218 posted on 07/08/2006 5:12:42 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: FJ290

"I also know something else backwards and forwards."

What is that?


219 posted on 07/08/2006 5:13:32 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
I'm feisty, and he married me because I have that trait.

As I watch paint drying on the wall, Marajade, once again evades 1 Timothy 2:11-12. Yeah, your feisty until it comes to answer that, then you turn into a meek little mouse.

220 posted on 07/08/2006 5:13:45 PM PDT by FJ290
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