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A Dark Conspiracy of Prophecy and Alien Technology
American Chronicle ^ | August 14, 2006 | Gary S. Bekkum

Posted on 08/16/2006 2:51:31 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

Starstream Research interviews author Terry James about his novel, and the truth behind the dark dimension of alien technology and otherworldly beings.

"So, believing God's Word as absolute Truth, I have to believe they are presently intertwining themselves with government and science in clandestine, dark project areas. How aware governmental officials --in the black, covert regions, or other--are in these things, I wouldn't conjecture. But, someone, somewhere, has to know something is beyond what we consider normal."

SSR: Beginning in August 2006, Starstream Research is examining the possibility that the human race is under the influence of otherworldly intelligence. The series will be titled, "Invasion: Earth?" One of the biggest questions that always seems to fire up the most controversy is about the nature of the kind of beings that might pose a threat to the human race. On the one hand there are those who say that UFOs represent EBEs, extraterrestrial biological entities, beings not unlike intelligent life here on Earth that have used advanced technology to visit our planet. Others refer to ultra-terrestrials, or UTs, that have god-like powers to shape and control space and time. In your novel you write about the return of the dark angelic forces, from a Biblical perspective. I am wondering what inspired you to write about UFOs and connect them to Biblical prophecy?

Terry James: First, and foremost, I believe that the Bible is literally the Word of God to His creation called man. Everything I do, therefore, grows from this belief matrix. Unless God's word tells us that the particular thing referred to is symbolic, allegorical, or to be spiritualized (i.e., a spiritual concept rather than physical or literal). I presume it to be literal. For example, in Rev. 8:8 "And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood?" There, John tells us "as it were". This means it is not an actual mountain, but "like" an actual mountain. Bible prophecy always lets us know if something is not to be considered in a literal sense. And, almost always, if something is used symbolically, it represents a matter that is even more literally existent than the thing symbolically presented. I.e., human language can't fully encompass its magnitude.

I say all that to say that in Genesis, Chapter 6, the Bible tells us that the sons of God (Benai Elohim in Hebrew --angels who rebelled) came into (had sexual intercourse with) the daughters of men (human beings).

This literally happened. I believe the Bible to be the absolute Word of God, remember?

So, The fallen angels (a number of them) saw and lusted after human women. They had sex with them, and from the unions were produced Nephilim, or "giants" (both physical and supernatural, apparently). This is most likely the source from which some of the legends of the Titans, such as Hercules, and the greater gods of Greek, Norse, and Roman mythologies came.

Now we come forward to Jesus' time on earth as the God-man come to earth to teach, perform miracles, and die on the cross as the one and only Sacrifice for the Sin of mankind --which came into the world at the fall in Eden.

Jesus said as recorded in Luke 17:26 "And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man."

Jesus --God, Himself--said things just like those that happened in those pre-flood times would recur at the time of His return to earth (which includes the entire "day" of His coming). This means from the time of the Rapture of the Church, through His Second Advent as presented in Rev. 19: 11.

Fallen angels --(Benai Elohim) will again interject themselves into human affairs in the same manner they did in those antediluvian days. This is what I believe we are seeing --and will see in greater profusion in the future--with the UFOs, the abduction reports, the visitations, etc.

SSR: Starstream Research maintains contact with several government insiders, and their proxies. I can tell you that there are some pretty strange ideas out there, and that the government has explored the paranormal for years. The most well known program was initiated by the CIA and later moved to the various services and the Defense Intelligence Agency. When the program was partially declassified it was known as STAR GATE. One of our contacts in the private sector, an eschatologist in close contact with government consultants and officers still interested in phenomenology, actually suggested that we tell you that Starstream Research was "an outreach front for an insider group connected with national security and phenomenology," and that "Terry should be interviewing us."

Terry James: Fascinating, as Mr. Spock might say. And, I really mean that. If I do a non-fiction on the subject, I will attempt to interview them. And, even with the fiction it would be a good idea.

SSR: How close to reality do you think things are in the novel?

Terry James: Very close. I base that on everything else that is happening eschatologically. Israel at the center of world-wide controversy (Zechariah 12: 1-3 in the making); the EU at the heart of the geographical area that made up the Roman Empire (Daniel 9: 26-27 Antichrist's power base?); A peace process involving Israel that will eventuate in the deadly, false peace of Daniel 9: 26-27, (forewarned about in Isaiah 28: 15, 18); Russia and all of the nations and geographical region mentioned in Ezekiel chapters 38-39 coalescing in opposition to Israel to the North (possibly Gog-Magog force?); China as the possible king of the "kings of the east" (Rev 9: 16 / Rev. 16: 12) --these and many other prophetic signals I believe are prevalent in this generation.

The things involving Jesus-- prophecy about things being like it was in the days of Noah --(the Benai Elohim) most certainly appear to be in the end of days mix. Their influence in the governmental, societal, and scientific/technological areas of our world are, in my view, well underway, and have been even since the Apostle Paul's day.

He wrote --under inspiration of God:

Ephesians 6:12 "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

Very close, indeed.

SSR: In your story, government officials are possessed by fallen angels in exchange for technical assistance, the reverse engineering of alien technology. Obviously the military is always looking for the next major technical advantage, and once found will tightly protect it. Do you think there is a conspiracy -- the government, or someone, covering up the truth about the UFO's, etc?

Terry James: At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy kook, I must answer yes -- to some extent. This based, again, on Ephesians 6: 12 above.

God's Word says this struggle is supernatural --and that is even more literal than simply a physical reality. These interlopers are eternal --according to God. They will never die, or be destroyed, even when cast in the lake of fire in their ultimate fate.

So, believing God's Word as absolute Truth, I have to believe they are presently intertwining themselves with government and science in clandestine, dark project areas. How aware governmental officials --in the black, covert regions, or other--are in these things, I wouldn' conjecture. But, someone, somewhere, has to know something is beyond what we consider normal.

SSR: One of the first things you learn from investigating the government's efforts in tracking strange phenomenology, like UFOs and ESP, is that the truth is almost always stranger than any fiction you can imagine. I am wondering if you had any personal experiences that inspired your story?

Terry James: No. Unless you consider my belief that God sparked the idea that it's time to do something on the topic. I don' mean that I was inspired in the same, miraculous way prophets or other writers/speakers of the Old and New Testaments were given inspiration (through visions, dreams, etc). But, God does give His children ideas from His Mind, and expects us to do something with them. In that sense, I guess one might say I had the experience of having been given visceral understanding that these things are here, and they are again moving among us as in the days of Noah. --i.e., literally wanting to again mix with the "seed" of mankind.

SSR: Starstream Research recently ran a story about Ingo Swann, a psychic consultant who worked with the military to train their psychic spies. Swann claims that he was taken by a black ops UFO group to observe a UFO in northern Alaska. He describes an object that appears as if from nowhere out of a fog illuminated by colored lightning bolts. Swann says the object appeared to grow in size and then began to shoot beams into the woods. Some of his description fits the classic nuts and bolts UFO alien hardware, but there is also the impression that the object emerged from another dimension before manifesting here in our world. If you don't think these UFO sightings, etc. involve extraterrestrials, what are they then?

Terry James: I've already answered this above, I think. They are interdimensionals -- specifically, angels that fell with Lucifer in his original rebellion in Heaven.

SSR: How can we distinguish between really advanced, amazingly advanced beings, biological or computer, and angels?

Terry James: That might be the satanic seduction most difficult to discern. That's why it is essential for humans to be close to God. He provides Spiritual Insight. He's the only One Who can. God, the Holy Spirit, the third Person of the Trinity.

One gets this ability to discern by accepting Jesus Christ --God's only Son, Who is the Second Person of the Trinity--as Savior from sin. Otherwise, discernment --understanding of such things --in my view (which I believe is the Bible's View) is not fully possible.

The scripture from 1 Corinthians tells us:

2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

SSR: Do you believe these beings -- whatever or whomever they are -- are about to invade Planet Earth?

Terry James: They have long ago invaded earth. They have never left since they left their "first estate" Heaven. Read Jude 6-7. But, they are scheduled to step up their demonic activity exponentially during the Tribulation era (last 7 years of human history before Christ's Second Advent).

SSR: One group of former and present government types interested in the UFO question is known as The AVIARY. Part of the legend involves what is called the "core story" about contact with otherworldly beings. One of the rumors surrounding the core story involves a "disturbing message" that was given to our government. I have seen emails that state that the former Director of Central Intelligence, Richard Helms, was familiar with the "core story" and confirmed to a well-placed government consultant that it was the same story heard by members of The AVIARY. There has been a lot of speculation about the content of the message, and I'm wondering if you have any thoughts about what might be so disturbing that the government keeps it away from those without a need to know, including heads of intelligence and the President?

Terry James: One never knows when such stories are factual, or if they are --to exactly what degree. I presume that if Satan, the most brilliant of all diabolist generals, is leading his forces amongst the clandestine operations within governments, he would delude the human element within the operations into believing they were privy to things that are above average citizens to know. And, they would have to kill us, if they told us.

SSR: You use some real, historical characters in your novel. For example, President Lyndon B. Johnson, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, Dr. Edward Teller, the famous physicist and inventor of the H-bomb. How did you determine to use them? Do you believe, or not, that some of these things really might have happened, regarding these historical personalities? Are there modern day figures that might play a part in your future efforts?

Terry James: I was quite familiar with the things going on --so far as the U.S. Air Force was concerned, during the period I used as the nucleus of my story in the novel. LBJ, McNamara, etc., were in the positions of power at the time. Teller was perhaps the key dark, Strangelovian figure of science within that era --Einstein, Oppenheimer, etc., having passed from the scene.

For example, I was stationed at Randolph AFB near San Antonio for more than 3 years during my enlistment. LBJ flew into that base in Air Force One at least once a month, to then take a smaller plane to Bergstrom AFB near the Johnson Ranch. A guy's mind can run wild with such memory fuel!

Yes, I believe that both Johnson and McNamara would want to know about these things. But General Lucifer would be quite clever in keeping them from full knowledge. And someone like Teller would almost certainly be used by the minions to operate in the physical world, as liaison between that realm, and whatever other.

Yes, I'm working on the second of the series now. I have already, and will use other real people of this late generation of government and scientific people in a fictional way. The next will be titled "The Rapture Imperative: Dark Sentences".

SSR: Recently the Air Force commissioned a research paper from Dr. Eric Davis to review the nascent scientific field of quantum teleportation and spacetime wormholes. We are a long way off from developing teleportation as a real technology, but you write about a similar technology in your book called RAPTURE. What is the acronym's meaning?

Terry James: R.A.P.T.U.R.E. This is Rapid Atomic Particle Trans-molecular Unification Reassembly Energizer. (Like on the Starship Enterprise, of course --the Tele-transporter).

Are you sure it's a long way off? --Maybe so?

But, of course, it's a particle physics technology idea in acronym form that is meant to make the linkage to the great Prophetic Event we believe the Apostle Paul wrote about in 1 Cor. 15: 50-55 and 1 Thes. 4: 13-18. This is the Rapture of the Church (The Church being defined as all born-again believers in Jesus Christ).

This was the key theme of my friend Tim LaHaye, and Jerry Jenkins series of novels -- "Left Behind."

SSR: In his paper Dr. Davis also discusses research in China using human paranormal teleportation. Do you believe that this kind of paranormal effect is real?

Terry James: That is in the area of astral projection, and remote viewing, etc. I believe these to be deluding mind-tricks by demonic activity, not something sanctioned by God. I do believe, however, that the nearer we come to Christ's Second Coming, Satan and his minions will have increasingly powerful influence to delude.

SSR: Nick Bostrom is a heavy-weight world-class philosopher at Oxford. In recent years Bostrom has stirred up quite a lot of controversy by arguing that human beings might be living in a 'simulated universe'; in other words, what we call reality is the creation of a higher intelligence, and we are the creations of that same intelligence.

In his popular paper at http://www.simulation-argument.com/matrix.html , Bostrom writes, "An afterlife would, of course, be a real possibility for a simulated creature (who could either be continued in a different simulation after her death or even be "uploaded" into the simulator's universe and perhaps be provided with an artificial body there). Your fate in that afterlife could be made to depend on how you behaved in your present simulated incarnation ... If we are in a simulation, is it possible that we could know that for certain? If the simulators don't want us to find out, we probably never will. But if they choose to reveal themselves, they could certainly do so. Maybe a window informing you of the fact would pop up in front of you, or maybe they would "upload" you into their world."

The Rapture is also a prophetic belief that you share with others who have written fiction recently. For example, Tim LaHaye, co-author of the 65 million selling "Left Behind" series, who has given a strong endorsement to "The Rapture Dialogues." How does the technology -- RAPTURE -- mesh with the 'Rapture,' the prophetic belief?

Terry James: When millions disappear in the Rapture (based upon the prophecy by Paul mentioned above,) the world will be frantic, searching for answers.

Another prophecy -- 2 Thes. 2: 11-12 foretells that God will allow a great delusion to fall upon the minds of those whom didn' believe in Christ for Salvation before this event (the Rapture). This will be during the Tribulation era --the Apocalypse found in Revelation, Chapters 6-19.

This "delusion" will be a great lie the Antichrist and his regime of horror will perpetrate upon the world (read Rev. Chapter 13).

The "delusion," many --including yours truly--believe will be part of the lie about what has happened to those whom disappeared by the millions.

Part of this lie will be that the catastrophe was due to the intervention of "space brothers," or some other such term. These people were removed --perhaps the story will go--because of their unbelief in the tenets of humanism --that Mankind can solve its own problems. Antichrist, of course, will have the answers, being the ultimately evolved man.

Later he (Antichrist) stands in the Temple, declaring Himself to be God, and demanding worship. This is found in 2 Thes chapter 2, and Rev. chapter 13.

The RAPTURE technology might be explained (in the sense of my fiction) as the instrument that removed these millions. Or, the disappearance might be explained as this technology causing some great particle physics accident -- creating a watershed event that produces --at long last-- a quantum leap into Aquarius, or some such nonsense.

As you see, my mind is still fuzzy on how I plan to use the fictional technology as the story continues?

SSR: Technology always seems to be a two-edged sword. In "The Book of Genesis," the fall of mankind comes about with the knowledge of good and evil. Technology has brought about many advances that have improved our lives, yet major scientists, like Sir Martin Rees, are warning that the negative side of technology may bring about the end of mankind. What are your thoughts about how to best use technology and avoid the consequences of the ever-growing potential for misuse?

Terry James: Again, the Bible has the appropriate answers --including the answer to avoiding the misuse of the technology God has allowed mankind to develop.

Pro 9:10: The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy [is] understanding.

If a person is tapped into God's Wisdom through a personal belief in His Son, Jesus Christ, understanding of how to avoid potentially deadly consequences are spiritually visceral.

SSR: "The Rapture Dialogues" moves quickly from scene to scene, and would be easily translated to film or television. I am wondering if there are any plans to adapt your novel for the big or small screen?

Terry James: I've been told it has the swift movement of film. That certainly would be something I would enjoy having done with the novel. I would love to talk with someone interested in such a project.

SSR: The novel ends in a cliffhanger that begs a sequel. Do you plan other novels or a series on this theme?

Terry James: As I answered above, I'm working on the second of what I hope will be 3 novels in the series. The second I give the tentative title: "The Rapture Imperative: Dark Sentences," and the third "The Rapture Protocols: Dark Days."

SSR: I wonder if there is anything else you might wish to add for the benefit of our readers?

Terry James: The most important things to watch, prophetically speaking, are developments surrounding the nation Israel. Therein lies the most profound signal of where this generation might stand on God's Prophetic Timeline. The Rapture Dialogues: Dark Dimension" deals with the same dark spiritual forces (of Ephesians 6: 11-12) that are involved in fomenting the hatred against that nation.

I'm quite gratified that the novel has received more than eighty-five, five star reviews on amazon.com. And those reviews come from all over the nation as well as a number of foreign nations.

My partner in the raptureready.com website (which is the most visited prophecy site on the net,) invite your readers to visit. There they will find a voluminous amount of free material dealing in depth with matters of Bible prophecy, as well as many other Christian resources.

The "Rapture Index" --part of the website-- has been written about in Time Magazine (cover story 2002), The Rolling Stone, The New York Times, The Chicago Tribune and many other national publication, It has also been presented in network TV on ABC, CBS, NBC, as well as cable TV forums like CNN, Discovery, The History Channel, and many others. In fact, Paula Zahn of CNN included the website and The Rapture Index in her July 28th broadcast, and on June 6, 2006, the website received more than 1 million hits. Have your readers check it out.

http://www.raptureready.com/

Copyright (c) 2006 Gary S. Bekkum and Starstream Research. All rights reserved.

www.starstreamresearch.com


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1 posted on 08/16/2006 2:51:33 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

bookmark to read later


2 posted on 08/16/2006 2:52:50 PM PDT by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Alex Murphy

bttt for later


3 posted on 08/16/2006 2:54:16 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Alex Murphy

Why would supernatural beings lust after mortal women? Why would they even lust?


4 posted on 08/16/2006 2:58:12 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
Why would supernatural beings lust after mortal women? Why would they even lust?

Why do we natural/mortal beings lust after (other) mortal women? IMO it's usually due to boredom.

5 posted on 08/16/2006 3:00:39 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Alex Murphy

And what do the Zetas have to say about this?


6 posted on 08/16/2006 3:01:32 PM PDT by Grut
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To: All
Just a quick comment to everyone before this thread gets out of hand...

To the best of my knowledge, this is not satire. You have been warned.


7 posted on 08/16/2006 3:19:02 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Alex Murphy

If they are supernatural, then why is a natural, human trait assigned to them? It seems very convenient for the story, to assign traits we want, to beings which we don't even know exist, much less understand.


8 posted on 08/16/2006 3:23:05 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

If they're supernatural and they can somehow interact with humans, why not use their technology or other powers to simply take over the Earth? They'll have all the wealth and power and there are a lot of hoochies who will gladly screw their whatever off to be part of it, just like with human despots.


9 posted on 08/16/2006 3:23:32 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: stuartcr
>Why would supernatural beings lust after mortal women?


10 posted on 08/16/2006 3:23:32 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

What, they want our shoes?


11 posted on 08/16/2006 3:24:28 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Alex Murphy
>What, they want our shoes?

Of course! That is why
the alien-run Apple
makes those Nike things!

12 posted on 08/16/2006 3:37:45 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Alex Murphy
"This "delusion" will be a great lie the Antichrist and his regime of horror will perpetrate upon the world (read Rev. Chapter 13).

The "delusion," many --including yours truly--believe will be part of the lie about what has happened to those whom disappeared by the millions.

Part of this lie will be that the catastrophe was due to the intervention of "space brothers," or some other such term. These people were removed --perhaps the story will go--because of their unbelief in the tenets of humanism --that Mankind can solve its own problems. Antichrist, of course, will have the answers, being the ultimately evolved man."

I have often said that after the Rapture, the Antichrist will explain the missing people as having been taken by aliens. Then he will explain that the virgin birth of Jesus was done by these same aliens by implanting their seed into Mary and even guided the wise men to the birth with one of their ships, (i.e. the star). Of course the Antichrist will have supernatural power (like Jesus) from these same aliens and deserves to also be worshiped... like Jesus.

Just the humble thoughts of a Bible thump'n hillbilly.

FReegards,
DocRock

13 posted on 08/16/2006 3:50:37 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: Grut
>what do the Zetas have to say about this?

"...Humans have many states of consciousness. They are aware of the subconscious and conscious, and amnesiac states where the conscious is turned off and thus does not remember the time when it is absent. It is possible, in coming out of an amnesiac state, for the conscious to be updated by the subconscious, when the person is emotionally ready for this information. The Zetas likewise utiltize this chemical ability to turn the conscious off when making contact, to be recorded only in the subconscious during the Awakening period. This is a chemical process, one the body can switch on and off readily. Sleep walking is the body awake but recording only in the subconscious. Thus, the person seems awake and can even converse, but has no memory of the setting later, consciously. Sleep walking is used by the person when there are desires not acceptable to the conscious mind. Do I want to walk into the neighbors bedroom, and get close to his beautiful wife? Hey, it wasn't me, I was asleep at the time!

ZetaTalk: GodlikeProduction Live written Aug 5, 2006 on the live GodlikeProduction Radio show

14 posted on 08/16/2006 4:02:15 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

That's what happened to me...While I was an angel, I saw these fantastic looking shoes~~~~~~and couldn't keep my hands off 'em...(what are those white things?)


15 posted on 08/16/2006 4:22:07 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: theFIRMbss; Dr. Eckleburg
The Zetas likewise utiltize this chemical ability to turn the conscious off when making contact, to be recorded only in the subconscious during the Awakening period. This is a chemical process, one the body can switch on and off readily. Sleep walking is the body awake but recording only in the subconscious. Thus, the person seems awake and can even converse, but has no memory of the setting later, consciously.

Better get yourself a good pair of sunglasses...


16 posted on 08/16/2006 4:27:33 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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To: Alex Murphy
this is not satire. You have been warned.

Not the first time I've seen this kind of stuff. It should be, but never is, labeled Speculation. The kind of thing that's interesting to puzzle over, but you really can't do anything serious with.

I can tell you that there are some pretty strange ideas out there, and that the government has explored the paranormal for years. The most well known program was initiated by the CIA and later moved to the various services and the Defense Intelligence Agency. When the program was partially declassified it was known as STAR GATE. One of our contacts in the private sector, an eschatologist in close contact with government consultants and officers still interested in phenomenology, actually suggested that we tell you that Starstream Research was "an outreach front for an insider group connected with national security and phenomenology,"

What's an "eschatologist" -- something you can study in college, get a degree in and make a lot of money at? The feds got any on staff?

I'm guessing the guy's book is this. Kim Riddelbarger, one of this generation's purveyors of eschatological sanity, reviews it under "Just Plain Nutty".

(His other novel is about the Roswell incident. As a plug for something you'll probably find more interesting, I'll point you to Rex May, L. Neil Smith and Scott Beiser's Roswell, Texas.)

Jacques Vallee, an associate of J. Allen Hyneck (the original serious UFO researcher), and not any kind of believer to the best of my knowledge, eventually came to the conclusion that all this UFO related stuff was the result of a sinister conspiracy (of who, he could not say) -- someone messing with our heads.

17 posted on 08/16/2006 6:19:14 PM PDT by Lee N. Field
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To: Quix

ping


18 posted on 11/09/2006 8:40:30 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improvised this message.)
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To: Alex Murphy; Las Vegas Dave; KevinDavis

Very congruent with what I've believed for more than 45 years.


19 posted on 11/09/2006 12:02:14 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

Thanks.

I rather concur fairly wholesale with his perspective.


20 posted on 11/09/2006 12:03:37 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: stuartcr

Why would supernatural beings lust after mortal women? Why would they even lust?

= = = =

That does not compute. BEEP Insufficient data. BEEP.

Entities involved have not disclosed this data. Our sensors collect inadequate information to answer the question.

Historical records merely record that they did so without explanations about why.

Perhaps Brad Pit could explain? Tom Cruise? Dilldo Klintoon?


21 posted on 11/09/2006 12:06:43 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Alex Murphy

And, Warn we must.

Though we know most will not heed until they are being marched underground by the Morlocks.

or . . . perhaps . . . being 'invited' for dinner by the Dracos . . . or some such.


22 posted on 11/09/2006 12:08:02 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: stuartcr

Actually, quite a lot is known . . . depending on one's definition of known.

Bi-pedal folks seem to predominate . . .

But hey, even amongst our mammals . . . some folks think their dogs and cats are more human than their spouses!


23 posted on 11/09/2006 12:09:21 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Enterprise

Once upon a time

GOD

said, let US make man in OUR image . . . Genesis.

The rest, as they say, is history.

But He does set limits and HIS OWN TIMING on what and when He allows the predicted future to unfold.


24 posted on 11/09/2006 12:10:38 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Alex Murphy
"Beginning in August 2006, Starstream Research is examining the possibility that the human race is under the influence of otherworldly intelligence."

If it could be proved & judging (solely) by what I've witnessed?
It'd have to have begun in January of 1993.
But it cannot.

So as things stand right now the United States of America must be concerned with *another* kind of unworldly influence, beginning real soon.

...Democrats.

25 posted on 11/09/2006 12:15:54 PM PST by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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To: Quix

Heh - thought you might. I don't know about "wholesale", but I do find a lot of dots there that could very plausibly connect, based on what I know and have experienced.


26 posted on 11/09/2006 12:41:49 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improvised this message.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

THANKS TONS.


27 posted on 11/09/2006 12:45:23 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

"Why would supernatural beings lust after mortal women? Why would they even lust?"

I think it is because they have mind-melded with Jimmy Carter.


28 posted on 11/09/2006 12:48:59 PM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Quix
"said, let US make man in OUR image . . . Genesis."

And sayeth the assembled host: "Uh, can you just make man in YOUR image and leave the rest of us out of it?"

29 posted on 11/09/2006 12:51:55 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Quix

I guess a lot of stuff is known or at least thought to be known, if one defines it the right way.


30 posted on 11/09/2006 1:05:49 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket; dashing doofus; Landru; Quix
"They are interdimensionals -- specifically, angels that fell with Lucifer in his original rebellion in Heaven."

Why would angels need ANY kind of vehicle to travel anywhere?

31 posted on 11/09/2006 1:08:24 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise
"Why would angels need ANY kind of vehicle to travel anywhere?"

*Clipped wings*?? :o)

Sorry, Enterprise.
But as much as I think sometimes there's a nugget of truth to this kind of stuff, I gotta have fun with it. Laugh.

If for one thing, only.

...it feels good. ;^)

32 posted on 11/09/2006 1:11:56 PM PST by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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To: Enterprise

"Why would angels need ANY kind of vehicle to travel anywhere?"

Come on! The answer to this is obvious: Their wings provide no aerodynamic lift in the vacuum of space.


33 posted on 11/09/2006 1:14:14 PM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: dashing doofus; Landru
"Their wings provide no aerodynamic lift in the vacuum of space."

DOH! How could I have missed the obvious.

34 posted on 11/09/2006 1:16:09 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise

Its cool. After Black Tuesday, I'm not thinking straight either. ;-)


35 posted on 11/09/2006 1:21:59 PM PST by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Enterprise
"DOH! How could I have missed the obvious."

Well it's the day after a terrible shock, Enterprise.
Anyone could've had an oversight such as yours.

Say given your traumatizing have you spoken with your government appointed crisis counselor, yet?

...gov's paying. {g}

36 posted on 11/09/2006 1:23:19 PM PST by Landru (That does it, no sleep number for you pal.)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

Pinging the list...


37 posted on 11/09/2006 1:36:49 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave (HDTV ping list, please FReepmail me if you would like your name added.)
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To: Enterprise

Hmmm. Did someone say they NEEDED a vehicle?


38 posted on 11/09/2006 1:43:11 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improvised this message.)
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To: Alex Murphy; All

Any advance civilization advanced enough would seem to have supernatural powers/magic to primative peoples [us to speak of] that does not stop the natural drive to reproduce ones self anywhere in the universe. The drive to sperad oneself everywhere is one of the oldest & strongest drives in all of nature!


39 posted on 11/09/2006 1:50:28 PM PST by TMSuchman (American by birth, Rebel by choice, Marine by act of GOD!)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
"Hmmm. Did someone say they NEEDED a vehicle?"

I don't know if they NEED a vehicle, but the article states that they USE some sort of transportation. If they are angels, and if they are interdimensional, why would they need anything to assist them in traveling? Hint: UFO refers to Unidentified FLYING Object.

"SSR: Starstream Research recently ran a story about Ingo Swann, a psychic consultant who worked with the military to train their psychic spies. Swann claims that he was taken by a black ops UFO group to observe a UFO in northern Alaska. He describes an object that appears as if from nowhere out of a fog illuminated by colored lightning bolts. Swann says the object appeared to grow in size and then began to shoot beams into the woods. Some of his description fits the classic nuts and bolts UFO alien hardware, but there is also the impression that the object emerged from another dimension before manifesting here in our world. If you don't think these UFO sightings, etc. involve extraterrestrials, what are they then?

Terry James: I've already answered this above, I think. They are interdimensionals -- specifically, angels that fell with Lucifer in his original rebellion in Heaven."

40 posted on 11/09/2006 1:55:29 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Enterprise

I guess my point in emphasizing NEED vs. USE is that everybody (and everything) USES things that they don't necessarily NEED.

I mean, one explanation is that the vehicles are merely theatrical props for the sake of the viewer.

Another might be some form of recreation, e.g. do you ever ride a bike or walk anywhere? Do you own a car? Why would you not take your car everywhere you ever go?

Of course there are numerous other possibilities. It's never a good idea to try to hammer the things you don't know into the mold of the things you do...


41 posted on 11/09/2006 2:06:18 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (I'm Hegemony Cricket, and I improvised this message.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
"I mean, one explanation is that the vehicles are merely theatrical props for the sake of the viewer."

Kind like the Wizard of Oz then. BFD.

"Another might be some form of recreation, e.g. do you ever ride a bike or walk anywhere? Do you own a car? Why would you not take your car everywhere you ever go?"

I am a physical being. I have to live by the laws of a physical existence. The means I choose for transportation must still conform to the laws of physicality. Again, if angels are inter dimensional, why do they need ANYTHING of a physical nature to move around? Why do they need to go anywhere anyway? What's here on Earth for them?

"It's never a good idea to try to hammer the things you don't know into the mold of the things you do..."

Fine, if you know so much about the subject, explain it clearly to me instead of asking dumb questions. If you can't, then don't lecture me about what I choose to hammer.

42 posted on 11/09/2006 2:21:03 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I've long felt that UFOs are not extraterrestrial, but actually manifestations from the spirit realm.


43 posted on 11/09/2006 2:26:24 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: Alex Murphy

bookmark for later reading


44 posted on 11/09/2006 2:55:59 PM PST by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: Alex Murphy

STARGATE???


45 posted on 11/09/2006 3:16:30 PM PST by NathanR (Apr├Ęs moi, le deluge.)
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To: My2Cents
I've long felt that UFOs are not extraterrestrial, but actually manifestations from the spirit realm.

I agree with that as well.

46 posted on 11/09/2006 4:12:14 PM PST by ladyinred (RIP my precious Lamb Chop)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

It's never a good idea to try to hammer the things you don't know into the mold of the things you do...
= = =

Especially with a brute force sledge hammer

in EVERY SINGLE CONTEXT AND CASE.


47 posted on 11/09/2006 4:40:19 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Enterprise

Scripture speaks of a HUGE GREAT DECEPTION in our end times era.

I've long felt it involved UFO's/ET's pretending to be benign or beneficial but helping force the world into one world government.

Sounds like there are some scenarios which could cast ET's as conquering horrid hoards AND/OR as saviors--either one or both coercing/forcing the scared planet's citizens into the tyrannical satanic government.

Vehicles certainly help sell the advanced beings from the stars scenarios.

Some vehicles may well themselves be spiritual and/or organic. But I do not believe all of them are. Too many nuts and bolts pieces captured possibly as early as the 1930's.

My relative worked around tangible vehicles.

Anyway--interesting times, indeed.


48 posted on 11/09/2006 4:45:16 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

AGreed.


49 posted on 11/09/2006 4:46:53 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Enterprise

The Trinity explains US sufficiently. I don't think the Heavenly Hosts were in on that decision.


50 posted on 11/09/2006 4:47:28 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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