Pinging...
pinging to the fray....
"And a jolly good day to you" ping.
OK, how about some background on this one?
pinging...
The cardinal is too liberal..............too conservative.......too homosexual friendly ........too anti-homosexual......??
What actually is their beef with him??
All I can gather from the letter is that they simply don't like the guy. I'm not defending Egan. It's just that the letter comes across as a whine.
If he's screwed up, document it. Points a), b) and c) etc.
This tells me nothing.
I'd vote "no confidence" in Egan. He was a bad appointment, IMO.
Thank you, Maeve, for posting this thread! The low morale of priests in this Archdiocese is pervasive, and felt around the entire state of NY.
is there a reader's digest version of this?
Can we fill out our own "Confidence" votes for other Bishops/Archbishops? I'll start the list:
Mahoney
Hubbard
Flynn
Brown
From his Letter to the Ephesians -
4. Hence it is fitting for you to set yourselves in harmony with the mind of the bishop, as indeed you do. For your noble presbytery, worthy of God, is attuned to the bishop, even as the strings to a lyre. And thus by means of your accord and harmonious love Jesus Christ is sung. Form yourselves one and all into a choir,[8] that blending in concord and taking the keynote of God, you may sing in unison with one voice through Jesus Christ to the Father, that he may hear you and recognize you through your good deeds to be members of His Son. Therefore it is profitable for you to live in blameless unity, that you may always enjoy communion with God....
Obviously this is not a divinely inspired text, however, the esteem due St. Ignatius should give us pause when there is open group rebellion against a bishop by the clergy.
If the bishop is financially minded, then he's financially minded. Whereas there may be legitimate concerns that his spiritual shepherding leaves something to be desired, as in any unit that demands cohesion (e.g., military), creating or deepening a fracture by further scandalizing the diocese with a no-confidence vote seems to be a bad idea for everyone.
I'm no huge fan of Cardinal Egan, but this letter is a bit unseemly in my view. A priest does owe obedience and respect to his bishop, and if Cardinal Egan is reaching the retirement age, the problem might resolve itself in time.
My 2 cents -- I think conservative (non-progressive) Priests aren't the type to send out "NO-Confidence" ballots. IMO, We have a TOP DOWN heirarchy, which conservatives "get", and progresives don't.
bumpus ad summum
Very interesting. I frankly have never thought much of Cardinal Egan. I didn't like listening to him; he sounded like such a weenie! Bishops should speak with confidence and sound like they have some authority!
I miss Cardinal O'Connor. He was a warrior.