Posted on 11/21/2006 9:15:22 PM PST by southwilby
I wish our church would take an active role in that hope. I've seen so many abuses that I no longer attend the sacrament meetings. I also thought the Temples were special places; I no longer see them as such.
Freepmail me.
Wow. Are you always this late to a thread? I posted that three days ago, before the moderator even got here.
I agree that the Mormons on this thread have been very gracious.
Personally, I believe one's religion is between him/her and his/her maker.
I see no reason to bash a religion.
Well...radical Islam might be an exception. ;o)
However, my "beef", though that word is too strong, is with the poster of this thread.
He/she states in the body of his/her post...
"You can be prayed into heaven if you're not a mormon..."
Then, later in the thread states...
"Southern Baptist see the mormons as a cult. What can I say. I have to stand up for my beliefs."
It is utterly impossible for this poster to state that both of those posts are true.
Southern Baptists believe we can pray for someone's salvation.
The salvation option is open until the moment of death.
It is then taken off the table.
However, I believe that it's possible for the Lord to intervene at the time of death
to give that person one last chance to accept Him as his/her Lord and Savior.
However, we don't believe in purgatory.
Thus, we don't believe we can pray someone into heaven.
I think that southwilby isn't so concerned with salvation as he/she is with being provocative.
I, also, think that he/she is a posuer.
And, I think that the nic "southwilby" is an expendable screen name.
I just bet that being the Religion Mod is much harder than the other mod jobs. ;o)
What some here don't get is that the SBC isn't our Pope.
They dissed Freemasonry in the early '90s.
They've had to back off of that one big time.
Bumping your post...
The "cult" accusation gets thrown around a lot. Basically, if the accusers disagree with your doctrine, you are a cult.
Southern Baptists see them as a cult? Strange. I was raised in a SB church and I have never seen nor heard this from anyone. My long departed grandmother was as hard core Bible thumping Southern Baptist as there is, and I never heard her talk poorly of any religion.
One has every right to not believe in Mormonism. But why can't they not believe in Mormonism AND just leave it and its people alone? Reminds me of the persecution of the early Christians by the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin.
And when you consider that so much that's said against Mormons are outright lies and distortions of their real beliefs, you then have to question the motives of those who feel the need to lie in order to oppose a belief system and why it is they feel so threatened by it that they have to invent distortions out of whole cloth about what Mormons stand for. Frankly, much of the anti-Mormon stuff out there is about as accurate, substantive and truthful as a Michael Moore movie, which all seem to rely on the same tactics of fear and deceit to make whatever their point is.
We know a big part of this is the fact that Mitt Romney is likely going to run for president, so attacking his religion is apparently the means absence of any substance some conservatives are choosing to use in opposing his candidacy. I really had hoped America, and particularly Christianity, was more mature and enlightened than this.
Anyway, who are you to say who will and won't go to heaven? I daresay I see more said by way of condemnation against those who are judgmental and hateful than I see said against Mormons in the Bible. I certainly don't see anything that says "Only Southern Baptists go to heaven."
During the Christmas season all you can feel in your heart is to post hate and division rather than love and compassion which was the heart of Christ's teachings? You might think twice about pre-judging who the true Christians are if bigotry and hatred are what governs your view of other religions.
With all the evil and barbarity in the world, believers of all Christian faiths should band together to combat the forces that are attacking our children and our once commonly held set of moral beliefs, not combatting people of faith regardless of their differences.
One has every right to not believe in Mormonism. But why can't they not believe in Mormonism AND just leave it and its people alone? Reminds me of the persecution of the early Christians by the Pharisees and the Sanhedrin.
And when you consider that so much that's said against Mormons are outright lies and distortions of their real beliefs, you then have to question the motives of those who feel the need to lie in order to oppose a belief system and why it is they feel so threatened by it that they have to invent distortions out of whole cloth about what Mormons stand for. Frankly, much of the anti-Mormon stuff out there is about as accurate, substantive and truthful as a Michael Moore movie, which all seem to rely on the same tactics of fear and deceit to make whatever their point is.
We know a big part of this is the fact that Mitt Romney is likely going to run for president, so attacking his religion is apparently the means absence of any substance some conservatives are choosing to use in opposing his candidacy. I really had hoped America, and particularly Christianity, was more mature and enlightened than this.
Anyway, who are you to say who will and won't go to heaven? I daresay I see more said by way of condemnation against those who are judgmental and hateful than I see said against Mormons in the Bible. I certainly don't see anything that says "Only Southern Baptists go to heaven."
During the Christmas season all you can feel in your heart is to post hate and division rather than love and compassion which was the heart of Christ's teachings? You might think twice about pre-judging who the true Christians are if bigotry and hatred are what governs your view of other religions. I see nothing of bigotry in Christ's teachings.
With all the evil and barbarity in the world, believers of all Christian faiths should band together to combat the forces that are attacking our children and our once commonly held set of moral beliefs, not combatting people of faith regardless of their differences.
Let me guess, this murdering PASTOR below is "saved" in your warped religious viewpoint but Mormons living decent, clean, compassionate, generous and honest lives are all condemned to hell in your corrupted and mistaken view of the true meaning of faith and grace:
Ex-pastor held in 2004 murder
modbee.com ^ | November 28, 2006, 05:28:46 AM PST | By JEFF JARDINE
Posted on 11/28/2006 9:35:15 PM PST by Irisshlass
A former Hickman Community Church pastor has been arrested on a murder warrant linked to the death of an 85-year-old Hickman man in 2004. Doug Porter was detained by federal authorities Monday afternoon at a border checkpoint near San Diego while trying to return to the United States from Mexico.
Stanislaus County authorities said they believe Porter, 55, intended to kill Frank Craig in a pair of auto crashes two years apart in order to inherit Craig's reportedly multimillion-dollar trust. Craig died in the second crash in April 2004.
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