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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop; kosta50
we are temples for the Spirit's indwelling

I stand by Kosta's remark to this. By and large, the Holy Spirit comes from the apostles. Any time the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is claimed while the Apostolic tradition is abandoned in favor of one or another modern interpretation of Christianity, such claim is a claim of vanity, not faith.

5,404 posted on 01/12/2007 11:55:43 AM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
By and large, the Holy Spirit comes from the apostles.

To the contrary, the Holy Spirit was sent by Jesus from the Father upon His ascension. (Gospel of John)

5,409 posted on 01/12/2007 12:01:32 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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By and large, the Holy Spirit comes from the apostles. Any time the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is claimed while the Apostolic tradition is abandoned in favor of one or another modern interpretation of Christianity, such claim is a claim of vanity, not faith.

Oh, dear! Goodness NO! No way.

Holy Spirit tolerates no gatekeepers on HIS operations . . . generally and over all particularly. All creation is held together by His operations and He doesn't bother the Apostles about permission or sanction or routing 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% in that.

Nor does He do so in the affairs of individuals on earth currently.

Oh, it's quite fashionable for the leaders of every little group to insist that God ONLY FLOWS AT ALL OR FULLEST THROUGH HIS PERSONAL PARTICULAR LEADERSHIP, OFFICE, BRILLIANCE, SKILLS, GIFTINGS etc. . . . that HE HAS A CORNER ON GOD'S TRULY TRUEST TRUTH AND TRULY MOST SANCTIFIED REQUIREMENTS FOR LIFE AND HEAVEN--for whatever list of reasons.

Maybe it's tradition, family lineage, miracle experiences, memorization of Scripture; worship skills; anointing in a flash of light on the road to San Francisco; laying on of hands back to Adam; graduation from Harvard school of Divine Hogwash; fasting for 40 days on the back side of Las Vegas . . . whatever.

But the wise saints run screaming from the building and group the minute such an attitude or mentality shows up.

Righteousness is not inherited from parents nor spiritual leaders.

Holy Spirit, God contracts individually moment by moment with each individual alive. GOD BROOKS NO INTERLOPERS NOR HINDRANCES IN SUCH FELLOWSHIP, CONTRACTING.

HE CREATED US FOR FELLOWSHIP. THEN HIS ONLY SON DIED THAT IT MIGHT BE RESTORED.

It's not REMOTELY LOGICAL NOR BIBLICAL that he would THEN submit the fellowship to the idiocies and whims of a tradition bound, fossilized, calcified, rigid, narrow, fleshly, HUMAN BUREAUCRACY!

. . . whether the bureaucracy was 3 years old 300 years old or 3,000 years old.

5,421 posted on 01/12/2007 12:28:51 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIShe ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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