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The Early Church Fathers
Stay Catholic ^ | Sebastian R. Fama

Posted on 01/27/2007 6:12:35 AM PST by NYer

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To: Kolokotronis
Both lines make much more sense in Greek than in English! :)

We're waiting ...

But the God does not exists line makes good sense in any language, I think.

141 posted on 01/27/2007 2:48:40 PM PST by Mad Dawg ("It's our humility which makes us great." -- Click and Clack, the Tappet Brothers)
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To: Gamecock; Religion Moderator
If, under the guise of a "Proddie Caucus," a series penned by a prominent Protestant convert from Catholicism were posted would you and the rest of our RC FRiends protest? What if that series was at times less than complementary towards Catholic Doctrine?

Bring it on! That would be truly interesting! (just so long as the Catholic Caucus may provide the historical background for said 'convert'), for example: Episcopal Bishop Katherine Jefferts Schori, who left the Catholic Church when she realized that it would never accede to the ordination of women. Fair enough?

142 posted on 01/27/2007 4:03:45 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer; nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Lady In Blue; american colleen; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ...
Catholic Discussion Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic Discussion Ping List.

How many times have we wanted to discuss the Early Church Fathers?

This is your chance!

143 posted on 01/27/2007 4:40:10 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Religion Moderator; NYer; Gamecock; P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg
Protestantism is based on the allegation that the Catholic Church became corrupt shortly after 312 AD

That is hardly accurate.

Protestantism is based on theological error. The corruption that opened eyes was Middle Age corruption. The indulgence controversy was shown to have legs by the RC deciding to change their ways. Apparently, once that rock was overturned and corruption was discovered, there were many who saw corruption elsewhere in church history.

But the crux of the indulgence controversy was not about corruption, it was about theological error. The very notion that one could buy and sell forgiveness was contrary to so much scriptural doctrine that it's hard to list it all.

It took Luther some 95 points. :>)

144 posted on 01/27/2007 4:40:39 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Gamecock
Christianity hinges on faith in Christ.

Neither I nor the Catholics disagree with this.

145 posted on 01/27/2007 4:46:42 PM PST by jude24
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


146 posted on 01/27/2007 5:50:57 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, insects)
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To: NYer
Naturally we would expect that those who were taught directly by the Apostles would themselves believe and teach correctly.

This is quite laughable when one considers the many admonitions Paul gave the early churches in the New Testament.

147 posted on 01/27/2007 6:33:54 PM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations. So should you.)
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To: NYer

Your qualifying statement as to why you posted this thread as a "Catholic Caucus" in keeping within the guidelines of the Religion Moderator, is most interesting. I applaud you for your tactful choice of words in your statement.


148 posted on 01/27/2007 6:55:53 PM PST by Ciexyz (In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:16)
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To: Between the Lines
Te truth is that God worked NO miracles thru ANY of the Reformers,Luther Calvin etc...
They were just intellectual men -Nothing more!
149 posted on 01/27/2007 7:02:19 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: sandyeggo

Reading the Early Church Fathers was what brought my husband into the Catholic Church, after he first kicked and screamed when I mentioned I was being drawn toward it. We converted several years ago.


150 posted on 01/27/2007 8:54:52 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: xzins

Tell me a bit about being a chaplain. You are talking about in the military?


151 posted on 01/27/2007 8:57:24 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bboop

Yes. I was an Army Chaplain. Retired at 20 years.


152 posted on 01/27/2007 9:00:32 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: bboop; sandyeggo

I am glad that you crossed the Tiber!

The early Church Fathers , as sandyeggo has posted regarding their influence, have had a significant meaning in my life, even though I became familiar with them much later after my own conversion to Catholicism. They have enriched my understanding of my faith.

I am always uplifted when I read them and have some favorites.


153 posted on 01/27/2007 10:09:32 PM PST by Running On Empty
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To: NYer
The Early Church Fathers

The Early Church Fathers on The Church (Catholic Caucus)

Early Church Fathers on (Oral) Tradition - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus

154 posted on 01/28/2007 6:08:03 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Running On Empty

We are glad we crossed the Tiber too. Funny that it took so long; we would not go back.


155 posted on 01/28/2007 7:42:19 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: cdcdawg

http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/


156 posted on 01/28/2007 12:19:55 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: Iscool
Columbia Encyclopedia....Foxe, John, 1516–87, English clergyman, author of the noted Book of Martyrs. He early became a Protestant and, when Mary Tudor became queen, he fled from England to Strasbourg. There was printed (1554), in Latin, the first part of his history of the persecution of Protestant reformers. Foxe moved to Basel and had published (1559) the first complete edition, in Latin, of his history. After Elizabeth's accession, an expanded English edition appeared (1563) entitled The Actes and Monuments of These Latter and Perilous Dayes. The work was commonly known as the Book of Martyrs, and its chief purpose was to praise the heroism and piety of the Protestant martyrs of Mary's reign. The book was widely read, and its influence was extensive, although as history it is highly prejudiced and not altogether trustworthy.
157 posted on 01/28/2007 12:23:43 PM PST by bornacatholic
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To: Gamecock
In my practice I have many RCs on oral contraceptives. So based on your statement there are maybe 323 RCs in the US?

So you prescribe oral contraceptives to your male Catholic patients? Wow...does FDA know you're marketing a male oral contraceptive?

158 posted on 01/28/2007 3:45:06 PM PST by AlaninSA ("Beware the fury of a patient man." - John Dryden)
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