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What Really Happened at ''Easter''?
KOINONIA HOUSE ^ | March 2007 | Chuck Missler Ph.D.

Posted on 03/30/2007 4:41:10 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012

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To: vladimir998
You still have not answered my question. I asked, “Exactly how have I been taught?”

You have been taught incorrectly. It is very obvious to me. Why it isn't to you remains a mystery.

Now I have answered your question....more than once. If you continue to ask....it I will cause me some concern for you.

181 posted on 04/03/2007 6:12:43 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618

You wrote:

“You have been taught incorrectly.”

That would be your assessment of the quality of the content of what I was supposedly taught and would not answer my question. I asked nothing about what you thought of the supposed content and asked directly about HOW you think I was taught. Will you answer the question or will continue to evade?

“It is very obvious to me. Why it isn’t to you remains a mystery.”

The mystery here is why you won’t answer the question and keep evading. HOW was I taught?

“Now I have answered your question....more than once.”

No, you have never ONCE answered my question. HOW was I taught? Can you answer the question or not?

“If you continue to ask....it I will cause me some concern for you.”

Be concerned with yourself. After all, you are evading on this simple question. HOW was I taught? Can you answer the question or not?


182 posted on 04/03/2007 6:46:03 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Diego1618; XeniaSt
What do you make of Matthew 26:17 where it says that on the first day of the feast of unleavened bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked him: where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

How can it be the first day of unleavened bread and still Passover has not been eaten? Were the Jews starting the feast of Unleavened Bread a couple days earlier for some reason, and then celebrating the Passover in the middle of it? How does this jive with the Levitical instructions?

183 posted on 04/03/2007 7:19:07 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
What do you make of Matthew 26:17 where it says that on the first day of the feast of unleavened bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked him: where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

[Matthew 26:17] And on the first [day] of the unleavened food came the disciples near to Jesus, saying to him, 'Where wilt thou [that] we may prepare for thee to eat the passover. The word day is added. It is not in the original Greek.

There were actually two preparation days for unleavened bread and the term "On the First of Unleavened" could mean Monday (the 13th) as folks were busy ridding their homes of leavened and generally preparing for the observance. I believe the Last Supper was a meatless Seder celebrated with the Essene community (the upper room) and shall attempt here to convince you.

[John 13:26-29] Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. Now no man at the table knew for what intent he spake this unto him. For some of them thought, because Judas had the bag, that Jesus had said unto him, Buy those things that we have need of against the feast; or, that he should give something to the poor.

Now you have to ask yourself, why would they think he would be buying something for the feast....if they were currently eating the feast? This shows that the Apostles knew that they were not eating the Passover. The day or two before the Passover is called the days of preparation and they were obviously....still preparing.

[Matthew 26:26][Mark 14:22][Luke 22:19][I Corinthians 11:23-28]. All of these verses deal with the bread and wine served at the Last Supper. If you check the Peshitta Aramaic and the Hebrew version of the Aramaic and the Greek Manuscripts you will see that this is "lakhma"/Peshitta; halekhem/Hebrew; and arton/Greek....all leavened bread. Regular bread was not served at Passover.

The Holy Spirit did not inspire one of the Gospel writers to call this a Passover Seder. The upper room had been obtained to prepare for the Passover as Jesus said He desired to eat with his disciples [Luke 22:15], but knowing He was to be the sacrifice the next day....knew he would not.

[John 18:28] Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover. This is now the 14th....early in the morning and later that day the lambs would be slaughtered "between the evenings" (3:00 P.M.) as would Our Lord. He had eaten the previous evening with his disciples in the upper room.....a Last Supper....not a Passover Seder.

184 posted on 04/03/2007 9:02:01 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Uncle Chip
What do you make of Matthew 26:17 where it says that on the first day of the feast of unleavened bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked him: where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

There more clues at this link Jesus in the Talmud
b'shem Yah'shua
185 posted on 04/03/2007 9:17:40 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Diego1618; vladimir998
From:
    I'm not condemning anyone. I'm simply asking you to read your scriptures
To:
    The rest of your scriptures are in error much the same way.
Like those actors in Fiddler on the Roof say, as they're doing their best to pretend they are Jews: mazel tov.
186 posted on 04/04/2007 8:25:40 AM PDT by Titanites
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To: Ping-Pong
I'm glad you included the Protestants too. I'm afraid some take this as anti Catholic and it isn't.

Sorry about taking so long to get back. Busy.....busy.

I normally include the Protestants by calling the Subject "The Main Stream Church". They really are just as guilty of the same things the Romans are in most areas. There's really not that much difference in the Easter Celebration anyway...that's for sure!

Hope you had a good Passover.

187 posted on 04/04/2007 4:09:09 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Dog Gone

Oh No! No more fertility? What will Eostre say?


188 posted on 04/04/2007 4:12:12 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Diego1618

Diego1618,

Have you found the courage to answer this question yet:

“HOW was I taught?”

You made an assertion. I hope you have the courage to back it up.


189 posted on 04/05/2007 3:16:33 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Uncle Chip

Lol


190 posted on 04/05/2007 7:42:58 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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Note: this topic is from March 2007.
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