Posted on 04/02/2007 12:18:53 PM PDT by Between the Lines
Or maybe one for year 1, the other for year 2 - like the Chambers’ devotions?
Thank you very much. I appreciate your help.
I will be happy to be involved with this sort of thing as well.
Count me in.
Let's see how it works in practice...
“I had no idea that the phrase “All o’ youse” was of Greek origin.
Fascinating.”
Yeah, as in “Taki got butted in the kolos by the goat. All o’ youse get in the karo and take him to the ‘spitali!”
It’s a Peloponnesian thing.
I had an experience here that made me very gun-shy about asking questions about Catholic doctrine and the Catholic church in general. Years ago, I asked why it is that so many people who call themselves Catholic and don't live by the doctrines of their church and who don't even AGREE with those doctrines (birth control and abortion, to name a few) continue to stay in the Catholic church. It was an honest question because it's never made sense to me. I couldn't imagine attending a church and disagreeing so strongly with its doctrine. Well, I got an angry private message from a Freeper who accused me of advocating a mass exodus from the Catholic church. I was stunned and hurt because that was *not* my intent. I was only asking a question based on what I have observed over the course of my life living amongst a large population of Catholics. I grew up in Ted Kennedy Land and have known many people just like him.
Now, I will also say that I've gotten some very kind replies from Catholics, too, when I've asked questions. But, that one incident really freaked me out and I tread very carefully with my questions now.
I am not singling out Catholics here, because I've seen Protestants attack Catholics, too. But, I'm just telling you what I've observed.
It's a matter of history. For centuries, the Catholic church was the center and fulcrum of life in a community. Everything revolved around that. To leave that would imply ostracising oneself from the community, not just a matter of going to the church on the next block.
Further, the Catholic Church teaches about the primacy of the conscience, when that conscience is properly formed. Unfortunately, a lot of Catholics understand fully the first part, but not the second part. When, in the mid 20th century, it became important to think for oneself and to be more "American" than "Catholic," it became very stylish to subscribe to current popular culture than the teachings of the church. People's consciences got perverted by the media and pop culture. They didn't consider the importance of guarding their consciences against those kinds of attacks.
Finally, the Catholic Church has not done a very good job of catechizing older youths and adults. Unfortunately, there are a number of clergy who do not do their job properly (there are also a lot of good and holy clergy members as well, but they are not universally present). So the poor catechesis is often reinforced.
Sorry that you got a disrespectful answer earlier. Hopefully this one helps you out.
Thank you for the cultural milieu. The Greek thing is still pretty alien to me.
” The Greek thing is still pretty alien to me.”
You really do have to talk to Pat about that. He’s liable to come to the conclusion that you’re some sort of stealth Methodist.
Uh, yes ... I had you in mind when commenting on "real, substantive" differences among professed Christians.
Christ Himself used satire and fierce mocking in some situations.
Yes, when dealing with hypocrites. That would be an interesting Scripture study: the Christ-like and Biblical use of satire. Perhaps I should look into that ...
He’s already pled beleageredness. And Knnitting A Conundrum has signed on to help so should be posting something today or this evening. Thanks tons for the suggestions and affirmations.
I’m hoping it can be a practicum sort of thread as well as group support sort of thread.
Prayers for all such anyway.
Would love to read such a study on your part.
Thx.
The "Six Degrees of Separation" thing really magnifies that ... One individual's behaviour affects the whole world.
"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee."
-John Donne
Just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we who are many form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.
-St. Paul (Romans 12:4-5)
OldTax-lady likes to say that I’m still a Calvinist, deep down.
I’ll see what I can come up with ...
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It's good to start them young. :)
I have no musical or culinary talent whatsoever, although I can make pretty good guacamole and cookies. Not together, of course. :)
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Good point. We don't know how what we say may be interpreted by others, or how it may wound them.
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