Posted on 04/04/2007 12:54:05 PM PDT by rrstar96
CISA: Libyan leader denies Christs Crucifixion, denounces Christianity
4/4/2007
Catholic Information Service for Africa (www.cisanewsafrica.org/)
TRIPOLI, Libya (CISA) Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi said that it was a mistake to believe that Jesus had been crucified and killed.
"It is not correct to say that. Another man resembling Jesus was crucified in his place," Gaddafi told a March 30 mass prayer meeting in Niger to mark the birth of the Prophet Mohammed. The meeting was aired live on Libyan state television.
The president, according to Reuters, also said Christianity was not a universal faith alongside Islam.
"There are serious mistakes - among them the one saying that Jesus came as a messenger for other people other than the sons of Israel," he said.
"Christianity is not a faith for people in Africa, Asia, Europe and the Americas. Other people who are not sons of Israel have nothing to do with that religion."
Gaddafi, who is seeking to expand his influence in Africa, said his arguments came from the Koran. He led similar prayers last year in Mali. His country is more than 95 percent Sunni Muslim.
"It is a mistake that another religion exists alongside Islam. There is only one religion which is Islam after Mohammed," Gaddafi said in his sermon.
"All those believers who do not follow Islam are losers," he added. "We are here to correct the mistakes in the light of the teachings of the Koran."
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Republished by Catholic Online with permission of the Catholic Information Service for Africa (CISA), based in Nairobi, Kenya (www.cisanewsafrica.org).
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Nothing good can come of this discussion. It only leads to hatred and anger against others in our hearts.
Why hate a blind man for bumping into you? Our response should be to pray for Gaddafi (which I just did, BTW).
He's completely right. The Koran states that Jesus didn't really die on the Cross.
Certainly, that may be true. And the Jews believe Jesus was a nobody. And the Asians go: "Jesus who?"
People all over the world believe different things. I am not tempted to hate them or denouce them.
Well that ol’ Libyan fart is just stating what Muslims believe in.They say that it was someone else(most probably our old friend Judas Iscariot) who was crucified & that Jesus was raised up by Allah,but will be sent back down to die & go back up again.
Yes, but the Koran is completely wrong.
This is not an issue of Islam vs. the West. There is no problem. Look the other way, move on, move on. lol
Yep. Why should someone who believes in another religion believe in mine? I appreciate the fact that at least Qua-Daffy has not watered down his religion to be "inclusive of other beliefs" like a lot of liberal moonbat so-called Christians have done.
“And the Asians go: “Jesus who?””
News update: There are now about 100 million Christians in China.
“The president, according to Reuters, also said Christianity was not a universal faith alongside Islam.”
Christianity adapts itself to THOUSANDS of different language groups around the world, while Islam is an ethnic Arab movement.
Really, there are about 16 million Christians in China, which is a lot. But, still, with a population of over one billion, it's not that many.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_China
As for "Islam is an ethnic Arab movement" -- it may have started that way, but they do match us in adherents, in nations throughout the world. Uncomfortable, but true:
Well, he is entitled to his opinion.
No surprise there.
Maybe he should negotiate a film deal with Ron Howard and Dan Brown.
Yes, he is entiled to say what he believes, and so are you. However, someone has to be right about the subject. As to the Asians, one of the notable thing about China is the growth of Christianity among the Han. It would be nothing new for God that as Europe abandons the faith that defines it, that China might accept Christ. But the two contestants for the souls of man are Christians and Muslims. Islam is certainly making more noise right now.
Actually, I didn't say he is entitled to say anything about Christians. Frankly, I think people should shut up about other people's religious beliefs. It's obnoxious.
But he’s NOT talking about Christianity, not really, except to say that he believes it is not the true faith. He is simply affirming his faith in Islam, that Islam is the only true faith. Again, what he says about Jesus is what the Koran says about Jesus, and he believes that the Koran—not Jesus—is the Word of God. His statements are simply true or they are not.
Let’s play Rush Limbaugh’s new game:
GUESS WHICH RELIGION?
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Our church sacrificially supports the Chinese home churches. Our missionaries tell us that the numbers are phenomenal and are increasing daily. Some people there-and here,apparently-are very threatened by the thought of a Christian China. But we are praying earnestly for it.
“As for “Islam is an ethnic Arab movement” — it may have started that way, but they do match us in adherents, in nations throughout the world.”
What I mean by that statement is that Islam keeps Muslims MUCH closer to Arabic culture and language than Christians keep their people to let’s say the languages of Greek, Hebrew, or even Latin in the case of the RCC.
In Christianity, we don’t impose a hierarchy of languages to read our holy book. That is, a Bible in English is just as much the Word of God as it is in, say, Quechua.
But for a Muslim, the Koran is really only the Koran if it is in the original Arabic.
Christianity will be received by at least one person in every single one of the thousands of languages on earth.
It has been written and predicted so.
A Muslim denounces Christianity?!?
You are very very mistaken. Qadaffi has done nothing original here. He has merely repeated word for word what Islam has to say about Jesus Christ. IOW this is the Islamic theology version of Jesus Christ and what Christians theology says is a irrelevant.
Mohamed is the only man who matters in the Koran. Jesus Christ and the Hebrew Prophets are only his stooges and Islam has a bowdlerized accounting for all of them. They don't respect any of them. They use them. Yes, Muzzies will claim how much they revere Jesus Christ but fact is they use&abuse him to further Muhammad and his awful cult
Islam always lies and inflates its numbers. Islam is very Arab-centric. They will always claim the Koran can only be understood in Arabic. Islam united the pagan Arabs and provided the theological justification for their wars of conquest conversion plunder and sex-slavery
Their Koran is memorized all over the world. In Pakistani madrassas young boys start memorizing this unholy book. They memorize it in Arabic exclusively!
yep....
"Two men say they're Jesus, one of 'em must be wrong...."
According to the Koran the young Jesus already announced his raising from the dead (sura 19, 33); however, here the Koran is possibly referring to the resurrection of the believers during the Day of Judgement often mentioned in the Koran (see below; Sure 4, 159). The Koran says that Jesus was taken up to God alive (sura 4, 157 - 159, sura 3, 55).
Moslems and Christians disagree on the question, whether Jesus was crucified, died and overcame death before his ascension to heaven as Christians say -, or if God has risen him alive into heaven - as Muslims believe. However, both believe, that he was not "dead" at that time when he was risen (the bible for instance states, he spoke to his disciples immediately before he went to heaven.)
In the suras 3:55 and 5:48 it is said, ...I will make him pure" and "...you all will come back to me, and I (God) will decide, what You were in disagreement about". So Christians and Moslems might wait for the solution of some remaining mysteries instead of quarreling.
As Rodney King would say: "Can't we all just get along?"
Let me tell you something. Islam is a thousand times more judgmental about Christianity than the other way around. Islam is a thousand times harsher about Christianity than the other way around
Go to http://www.jihadwatch.org/ sometime for a serious appraisal of Islam. Don’t make the mistake of “mirroring” where just because you are nice and easy going, where just because Christianity is nice and easygoing, that Islam must be approximately the same. It isn’t
Compare the life of Christ to that of Muhammad and you’ll see why we have a huge problem. All Muslims are commanded to emulate Mohammed’s life
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