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Insanity.

What about ME? I want a church that does *guy* stuff for ladies!

1 posted on 04/08/2007 10:00:47 PM PDT by Terriergal
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ping!


2 posted on 04/08/2007 10:01:52 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

Sorry you will have to start your own. By the way what will you call it?


3 posted on 04/08/2007 10:06:09 PM PDT by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast? ("If God is your Father then I am your Brother" Larry Norman)
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To: Terriergal

Hey, woman have “The View” !! :-)


4 posted on 04/08/2007 10:11:29 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Terriergal

I think churches and Christianity have been far too feminized but that it’s men’s fault, on the whole. Abdicating their PRIEST OF THE HOME role and avoiding much spiritual involvement leaves a vacuum which the women ahve thankfully—for the kids’ sake—filled overwhelmingly productively and faithfully.

But that has to change if the church is going to accomplish all it needs to in our era—as well as be ready for Christ’s return.

I don’t know that this effort is the ideal effort. But a lot of thought and prayer needs to go into changing things so that men are eager to take their proper roles in congregations.

Thankfully, our pastor is very keenly sensitive to such issues and experimenting in a host of ways that seem to be working.

Thanks for the article.


5 posted on 04/08/2007 10:17:49 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD!)
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To: Terriergal
Organizers of the Church For Men say that guys are "bored stiff" in many churches today.

Stagehand approaches dressing room door with star on it...
Knock...Knock...Knock...
"Holy Spirit!? You're on in five...Remember to keep it short."
"Metallica takes the stage at 6:30 followed by NCAA Basketball...You know how the network execs hate it when we run late..."

6 posted on 04/08/2007 11:28:41 PM PDT by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: Terriergal
Well, that's what you Protestants get for casting aside Christ's Church Service (aka Mass) for something man-made.

Just having a little fun with fellow Christians - a blessed Easter to all brothers in Christ! (And come home, please)
7 posted on 04/08/2007 11:39:23 PM PDT by jobim
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To: Terriergal
Maybe it's just me, but most of what I see that's pitched specifically to men falls completely flat. I'm not interested in Harleys in church, or fishing gear or loud clangy "music". Give me the Word, in large amounts.
10 posted on 04/09/2007 5:51:48 AM PDT by Lee N. Field
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To: Terriergal

This is disgraceful, but typical, by-product of the man-centered church ‘growth’ movement.

Evangelical Christianity has been hijacked by touchy-feely drippy nonsense. The Christian giants of old would be ashamed of what we’ve allowed to happen to the church that they suffered and died for.

The men who want their comforts met on Sundays are not the men who will go to prison for the faith. The men who make conditional demands on their worship of God are not the men who will suffer the loss of finances, shelter, family, etc in order to worship God. They are creating a god in their own image, they are putting comforts ahead of the one true God, they are dishonoring the Sabbath, and they treat His name recklessly. The first 4 commandments habitually broken - all for rock music and jeans.

This fluffy bunny garbage needs to stop. This may sound defeatest - but I actually hope for Christian persecution in this country. By and large, Americans take their faith for granted, and it’s about time we’re put to some purging tests to remove the dross. The wheat needs to be separated from the tare in a big way.


12 posted on 04/09/2007 6:00:07 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("All that hath life and breath, come now with praises before Him.")
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To: Temple Owl

You’d appreciate this.


16 posted on 04/09/2007 6:30:33 AM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: Terriergal
The Founder of this Movement makes some legitimate points:

Lovey-dovey songs push erotic envelope

Some of the latest worship songs border on the erotic. I was standing in church a couple of weeks ago when these lyrics popped up on the screen:

Your love is extravagant

Your friendship, it is intimate

I feel I’m moving to the rhythm of Your grace

Your fragrance is intoxicating in our secret place

Your love is extravagant

Spread wide in the arms of Christ is the love that covers sin

No greater love have I ever known

You considered me a friend

Capture my heart again

When I saw the phrases “moving to the rhythm” and “spread wide” I just about fainted. Lyrics like these leave little doubt: today’s praise music targets love-starved women. (Gals buy about 75% of the praise and worship CDs) I don't know any man who follows Christ for his "intoxicating fragrance."

Meanwhile, the masculine hymns of a generation ago have been banned in most churches. We no longer sing of battle, blood or sacrifice. Onward, Christian Soldiers is forbidden. Rise Up O Men of God has been gender neutralized. We've retired the action songs and replaced them with relationship songs.

There's nothing wrong with worship songs that evoke strong emotion. I'm not afraid to admit that just last Sunday I was moved to tears by a worship song I heard in church. But we cross the line when we imagine Jesus as our lover rather than our leader.


17 posted on 04/09/2007 6:33:35 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Terriergal

Hmm, not much info in the story. I guess one could go here if they want to investigate whether there is any Word being taught there.

http://www.churchformen.com/


18 posted on 04/09/2007 6:53:30 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter-Thompson '08)
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To: Terriergal
What about ME?~snip!~

That's just the whole point. The whole concept is What about me, and not a thing to do with 'What about GOD?'

That said: With all due respect to your gender, sit back and quietly watch what happens when men in any particular congregation try to have some sort of men only event.

99 out of 100 times there will be some woman who just has to poke her nose into the matter. A couple of times, i've had to tell "Ms. Nosy Parker" to P!$$ off and go home. ...a single man can get away with that, not recommended for married men.

20 posted on 04/09/2007 8:20:18 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Terriergal

You would still have to attend another service in order to fulfill your weekly obligation. This is just a way to ensure that people sin (not attending a real mass). Terrible.


22 posted on 04/09/2007 8:26:10 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: Terriergal
a one-hour in-and-out guarantee.

For men who can't be bothered to devote more than one 168th of their lives to that whole 'God' business.

23 posted on 04/09/2007 8:32:31 AM PDT by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Terriergal

Florida ‘Church for Men’ Features Rock Band, One-Hour In-and-Out Guarantee

men only?

in and out?

Brokeback Mountain Church?

Not that there’s anything wrong with that......

No, not at all.


28 posted on 04/09/2007 9:22:38 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: Terriergal

...none of this ‘bread and juice’ stuff, WE do Beer and Pretzels for communion! ARRRRRRRGHH!!!


36 posted on 04/09/2007 12:17:52 PM PDT by KingRonnie9
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