Posted on 06/05/2007 10:53:58 AM PDT by Frank Sheed
To be frank, I think of Matthew 23:9. 8-|
LOL, you are saying that to me? You who wants me to start a thread for every question you want to avoid? I think that in your frenzy to reply and “debunk” Catholic belief that you forget that I replied to you in 423. Is it because you can not honestly answer?
You might have mentioned "Make a sort of curtsy while crossing self, knee never coming anywhere near the floor." I may be Catholic, but I'd never claim some of this stuff doesn't irritate me. But I will say that all of the things we do make us part of the Mass rather than passive listeners there to be entertained.
Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are Mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is Mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
As He created all would He not be the Father of all?
You have an uncommonly delightful sense of humor.
I think there's another part that's also been skipped. Don't y'all put your hand into the dealybob of holy water before y'all cross yourselves or is that too old school?
Parking lot leaving etiquette seems to have included blinding the driver to any small kids that live in the neighborhood. If the kids live in the area they either learn to avoid areas where cars are leaving the parking lot after Mass or the Darwin effect applies. I'm happy to report that a huge nondenominational church moved into my neighborhood & in the leaving parking lot etiquette, they're fully Catholic compliant.
You’re absolutely right! There’s a dip and a crossing upon entering the church, the curtsy comes before entering the pew.
I go to an old school parish, there’s a sign saying a genuflection is expected of all the faithful.
What a sweet thing to say. My friends at work find me so as well, but sometimes I can be annoying if not downright infuriating. My best friend at work was lamenting the age difference between she and her husband — she’s 37 and he’s 52, and I said, well she looks old for her age... She didn’t speak to me all day. I passed along a message through another friend that I would never in a million years have said that if I even remotely thought it was true.
Yooooohooooo, where ARE you?
I have failed in my attempt to fully capture the catholic experience. I am shamed.
The only question is whether it’s a venial sin I can pray away, or a mortal sin that must be burned off in purgatory. If it’s mortal, I’m having my the pockets of my funeral suit stuffed with hotdogs and marshmallows.
Bow to the altar, kneel to the Blessed Sacrament.
Once upon a time, the Blessed Sacrament (the consecrated altar bread, that is, Our Lord, Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity) was kept in a box, known as a Tabernacle, at the back of the main altar in the church. After Vatican II, they moved the Blessed Sacrament to a side chapel.
So now Catholics look around when they enter a church. If you see a red lamp burning, that indicates that the Blessed Sacrament is present, and you genuflect (”curtsey”) in that direction. If there’s no lamp and no tabernacle, then you bow to the altar, which is front and center in the church.
I don't know who said it but it reminds me of this quote, ""Everyone is crazy except me and thee and sometimes I suspect even thee"
Seriously though, I do feel that their presence is not from God. But we know that God can use their evil for good.
Can’t say I noticed it much after I became an adult, but I don’t think I ever went to a Mass that didn’t include a wedding as an adult & a portion of the congregation at a wedding wouldn’t be Catholic. Funerals include or are a Mass, right? Still, a portion of the congregation wouldn’t be Catholic. Like I said, I got the impression that the curtsy & holy water went the way of the doily on the head.
Wow! You probably should have sent that post as a private message. It doesn’t help your discourse if the one who you’re attempting to influence knows you consider him evil.
BTW, God can work with anyone alive under any circumstance. The fact that there are so many ex-catholics (such as myself) on these threads is proof. Don’t fret; there’s hope for you, too!
As you noted, Tiki gave the answer about 100 posts ago but is being studiously ignored.
That's the real problem with YOPIOS . . . not that individual interpretations vary widely, but that the first interpretation was necessary.
It's a street up behind us occupied by a few abandoned houses, one of which is a crack house, a couple of old folks who've been living there about 50 years, and a bunch of young thugs with pit bulls.
Periodically the police go in there and clean it all out, sixty days later they or their buddies are back.
I was just noticing again another tactic that is used. That of the false peace-maker. Those who walk into the room and say why would you reply such a thing to some non-Catholic? They take your words out of context because they haven’t followed the thread and read it in context. The funny thing is that 99% of them are non-Catholics. And if you engage them further than a few words it turns out that they hold the same disdain for Catholicism as those other non-Catholics.
You have invoked the invalid argument of YOPIOS. Any debate that may be occurring is officially ended. Your opponent is hereby declared victorious.
Thanks for playing. Better luck next time!
For twenty years I listened to my Mother-in-Law lament about the way her son, the former alter boy had fallen away from the Church & she reminded him more than yearly about the time the Monseigneur had washed his feet. Ex said that the Monseigneur would stop Mass to stare down any late arrivals. He was NOT a Priest to trifle with.
Since I'd never gone to a foot washing, I felt that I'd managed to miss one of the main events.
I think it's even better than Screwtape. And yes, I keep seeing myself . . . . < shudder >
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