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Thank God For the Magisterium
NCR ^ | June 10, 2007 | Mark Shea

Posted on 06/10/2007 3:02:20 PM PDT by NYer

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To: tiki
MAGICSTERICAL

I thought it was a bit of an overreach. MAGICSTERIUM would have been droll, and MAGISTERICAL would have been witty, but going for the two-for-one and saying MAGICSTERICAL is just sophmoric.

102 posted on 06/11/2007 8:05:52 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: trisham

Your kind words are a treasure to my heart and soul. Thanks precious saint.

I’m usually available at least some in the evenings. But have not bothered with a lot of things because they just didn’t seem very important to comment on. And, there are some things that have been round and round the same mountain for the several 100th thousandth time . . . seemingly . . . Wheee.

Trying to increasingly make my time count more for The Kingdom vs just venting my spleen! LOL.

LUB,
LUB,


103 posted on 06/11/2007 8:30:57 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

:)


104 posted on 06/11/2007 8:31:55 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Masterfully put, as usual.

Thx, Thx.


105 posted on 06/11/2007 8:33:10 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ichabod1

You are welcome to consider my PhD to be in . . .

sophmoric, if you wish.


106 posted on 06/11/2007 8:34:26 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ichabod1

BTW, I did use

magisterical several times initially . . . felt it lacked some element of the reality.


107 posted on 06/11/2007 8:35:37 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Thank you so much for your encouragements, dear brother in Christ!
108 posted on 06/11/2007 8:42:41 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix
One of the reasons one ought to pray for pastors is exactly what you say. I'll never forget visiting a couple who knew me in college but I hadn't seen them for, say 4 months, because I was in seminary.

It's the same me, not earing no fancy duds, and my friend Christine was WAITING ON ME!! I finally brought it to her attention and we laughed and that took care of that. But I can see how seductive that is. If everyone listens when you talk, after a while you start thinking you must have something cool to say. My second boss, in Mississippi, told me,"Don't take yourself too seriously. They're just being polite." ('IC'? Wuzza? Why am I so confused? always? Jeesh?)

109 posted on 06/11/2007 9:36:09 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: tiki
We have explained our belief thousands of times and they still insist that that is not what we believe and even if it isn't we're still wrong and they are right.

I've lived long enough to realize that not all explanations are even reasonable approximations of "objective reality" . . . sometimes . . . even my own explanations.

I do hope, however, that brittleness, sacred shoulder chips and thin skins do not become sacraments in any group.

110 posted on 06/11/2007 10:01:04 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Alamo-Girl

So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. When I say unto the wicked, O wicked [man], thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. - Eze 33:7-9

And not just them, but you and I and every other Christian have a duty to the Word of God (albeit to a lesser extent than they): keeping the lamp in plain view, loving one another, forgiving, being merciful, seeking His will, being and doing and speaking as He leads us to proclaim the Gospel.

So when the Great White Throne judgment comes, I will be held to account not only for myself but for everyone I have “touched” in this life. But my prayer is that, because I have eschewed all the doctrines and traditions of men across the board, then no one else will be held to account for me. And conversely, whenever I testify to another, I encourage them to look to God, not me.

To God be the glory, God alone.

= = =

INDEED, INDEED, INDEED!


111 posted on 06/11/2007 10:02:14 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Mad Dawg

It’s the same me, not earing no fancy duds, and my friend Christine was WAITING ON ME!! I finally brought it to her attention and we laughed and that took care of that. But I can see how seductive that is. If everyone listens when you talk, after a while you start thinking you must have something cool to say. My second boss, in Mississippi, told me,”Don’t take yourself too seriously. They’re just being polite.” (’IC’? Wuzza? Why am I so confused? always? Jeesh?)

= = =

I very strongly agree, Dear Bro.

My current pastor is reasonably humble for a 30 something year old. But even he seems to enjoy hearing himself talk.

On the other hand, he’s been persistently sharing a good exhortation and challenge recently—that we out honor one another—especially in our families.


112 posted on 06/11/2007 10:05:17 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Magicsterical

It just pulls me in difference directions. I don't know whether to pay attention to the "magic" part or the "hysterical" part. Nothing in a Ph.D. says you can't still be sophomoric. Take Mark Levin and all the little names he calls the politicians. I love the guy but it's sophomoric as all get out.

113 posted on 06/11/2007 10:25:13 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: tiki
"I really don't know what they think that they are accomplishing, I haven't heard of one Catholic who became Protestant because of their words. Yes, there are a lot of ex-Catholics who never understood the true teachings of the Church and have now "found" Jesus. They refuse to recognize that He was there all along but they didn't acknowledge Him and then they want to blame someone."

You don't suppose that you could switch the words Catholic and Protestant in the above paragraph?
114 posted on 06/11/2007 10:54:46 AM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: Quix

Thank you so much for your encouragements!


115 posted on 06/11/2007 11:05:50 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ichabod1

I meant it quite plainly.

You are welcome to consider my PhD to be in sophomoric.

Someone has to stand up for the sophomores.


116 posted on 06/11/2007 11:18:07 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: ichabod1

difference directions.

. . . perhaps the difference between sophomores and freshmen?


117 posted on 06/11/2007 11:18:52 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: tiki

They refuse to recognize that He was there all along but they didn’t acknowledge Him and then they want to blame someone.”

= = =

Actually, I’ve met a fair number who had no blame whatsoever . . . they just felt the RC edifice had taken them as far as it was able or going to . . . and that mercifully, Holy Spirit took them further outside the RC edifice than they were able to go within it.

I’d think authentic believers of every stripe could rejoice in that.

Either the goal is for people to get as close as possible to . . .

GOD

. . .

OR

. . .

to a human edifice, organization.

I’ll always choose God over a human anything.

You’d be wise, to, too.


118 posted on 06/11/2007 11:21:27 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
You wrote:I’m clueless about your . . .
What’s an IC ubergruppe?

You earlier wrote:

I thought you knew I wasn’t talking about IC oversight groups only

I also wrote a lengthy, thoughtful, profound revelatory, deep, insightful, able to solve all the problems of the world and then some, response -- and then lightning came and, praise God all I got was a parity error.

I think it all amounted to we all need to try a little harder.

119 posted on 06/11/2007 12:06:52 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Binghamton_native
Actually, no. You have to take into account that I am talking just about this forum. And I am talking about specific people. So again, no.

If you know better then let me know.

120 posted on 06/11/2007 12:29:21 PM PDT by tiki
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