Posted on 06/11/2007 3:38:58 PM PDT by haole
You have got to be kidding.
I’m not flaming anyone; I’m just wondering.
As someone who spent 12 years in Catholic school and reads the Bible daily, I struggle with keeping respect for the current state of the Catholic Church.
Our being in Iraq is immoral? Yea, right.
I listen to Rush regularly. I heard something about Galileo but it didn’t seem nasty to me. Maybe you are just overly sensitive?
If I remember correctly, the Catholic Church didn’t forgive Galileo until 1983, which is a long time to hold a grudge.
Hey good question.
My dad was excommunicated for marrying my mom because she did not agree to catholic raising of their children.
I didn’t notice it, but I didn’t listen to Rush the entire time.
Maybe the USCCB position on illegal immigration, and their other namby-pamby stances? Maybe that so many homilies are big on pro-illegal stances, some even having pro-amnesty Masses?
I think I noticed that and found it off putting, but I didn’t take it as an “anti-Catholic rant,” just a bit of culturally inculcated ignorance no one’s corrected. Some time back Mark Levin had a caller who mentioned, as an aside, how before Columbus everyone thought the Earth was flat. Now, it’s a big myth that Columbus discovered the Earth was round. Educated people in the West knew that the Earth was round since the time of the ancient Greeks. The Medieval Ptolemaic cosmology was based around the fact! And yet this caller simply assumed that and Mark didn’t correct him. But it’s nothing more than widespread ignorance in our culture.
The Catholic Church goes after Galileo, Rush reports it, and RUSH is the problem?
In the words of a famous philosopher "Beam me up Scotty!"
Did you hear Rush criticized Obama, and therefore Rush is a racist?
Uh, OK... so the Catholic church was right in its approach to Galileo, or what?
I heard the exchange on the radio. Yes, the guy who was talking to Maharushy was trying to make a different point than Rush took from his call(like most calls there was a lot of steppin’on each other’s sentences, so maybe Rush’s hearing factored). But even most Catholics haven’t heard any of the pro-Church arguments concerning Galileo, and I betcha it was Rush’s first time hearing stuff like that.
Freegards
I’m very curious for some references to good resources that provide an apologetic of the Church in the Galileo controversy...Please offer your insights.
If a person knowingly goes against official Church teaching(supporting/accepting murder in the form of abortion) they have excommunicated themselves. However, the vast majority of Catholics are so badly catechized that they don’t know this — this is mainly the fault of the Church hierarchy in their failure to teach. One thing to keep in mind is that the Church hierarchy are sinners, just as we all are. There is no infallibility in enforcing Church doctrine, just in declaring it, at least to my understanding.
Freegards
Hey, I dig your screen name! I am definitely no expert on Catholic apologetics, and I don’t know if any argument for the Church’s position concerning Galileo is correct or not. However, I was aware that such arguments exist and that this cat on Rush’s show was trying to give one, but Rush missed the point —probably because the debate normally is so one-sided. It would not surprise me at all if there was something to a “pro-Church” side in the Galileo affair. Here is one thread I do remember right here on FR. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1678365/posts
Freegards
I noticed that you've expressed suspicion and criticism of Rush before now.
Rush has expressed respect for many prominent Catholics, including the previous pope. He has expressed disdain for many prominent Catholics - deservedly so, imo. To answer your question - no, Rush hasn't been on an anti-Catholic rant.
You might want to read the following (for kicks if nothing else):
1) Galileo’s Mistake, by Wade Rowland, and
2) Galileo was Wrong, by Robert Sungenis.
There’s a great book on that by Jeffrey Burton Russell called, The Myth of the Flat Earth. Here’s a summary by Russell: http://www.veritas-ucsb.org/library/russell/FlatEarth.html
Forgive Galileo? No, the Church had nothing to forgive him for. The pope apologized for how he was treated by members of the Church. There was no imputation of moral guilt to be forgiven.
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