Posted on 07/27/2007 11:23:09 AM PDT by NYer
Is the candidate worthy? intoned Bishop Patricia Fresen ceremonially, as lifelong Catholic Juanita Cordero stood before her in a pure white gown, about to be ordained as a priest. The question was asked three times during the ordination ceremony on Sunday, July 22, as one female priest and two female deacons were invested with the power to perform sacraments a function forbidden to women under canon law. They are part of a movement from within the Roman Catholic Church that has been ordaining female priests since 2002, though those involved say that the tradition of women priests and bishops dates as far back as Mary Magdalene, whom they consider an apostle of Jesus. The participants in this movement fervently hope to be embraced by the Vatican, as other splinter groups have been before them.
Sundays ordination, witnessed by more than 100 invited guests, took place at an interfaith center in Santa Barbara that reporters agreed not to name in exchange for an invitation to attend. (Reporters also agreed not to print the names or orders of the nuns in attendance.) The women ordained Sunday join 18 others in North America who belong to an international organization called Roman Catholic Women Priests, which counts among its number approximately 50 female priests and deacons worldwide, including a few whose identities remain undisclosed in an effort to protect their jobs within the church. Also secret are the identities of the male bishops who ordained Bishop Fresen. Film and documentary evidence of that ceremony is being kept by a notary public, not to be released until the deaths of the male bishops.
At least two Santa Barbara women are studying to be ordained, perhaps as early as next year. Besides their gender deviating from the Catholic priest norm, neither the priest nor the two deacons ordained on Sunday who are scheduled for re-ordination as priests on July 28 is celibate. Norma Coon, of San Diego, has been married for 40 years. Toni Tortorilla, of Portland, lives with her lesbian partner. Cordero, a newly anointed priest who lives in San Luis Obispo, is a former nun who has been married for 30 years to a former Jesuit priest.
The ceremony, which took place on the feast day of Mary Magdalene, also differed from the standard Catholic ordination in the names the presiding clergy used for God, who is ordinarily referred to as the Father. The female priests instead referred to Mother and Father and to God/de. (The latter is pronounced like God, with the silent, extra letters hinting at a goddess that those in the ceremony declined to refer to explicitly.) Jesus Christ retained his masculine identity, however.
The reason that the women are determined to remain Roman Catholics, instead of forming their own church or joining another such as the Episcopal Church, which ordains female clergy is that they consider the Roman Catholic Church to be their family, albeit a dysfunctional one, and they have no intention of abandoning it. Its in my bones, said Fresen. Its in my blood. There are a lot of things wrong within the church, but I love it, and the only way to change it is to stay. They added that excommunication, contrary to popular belief, does not remove one from the church; it only means that one cannot receive the sacraments. Nothing can put you out of the church once you have been baptized, said Fresen. However, after the first seven women priests ordained on the Danube in 2002 were promptly excommunicated, none of the other ordained females has been excommunicated.
The meaningfulness of the Catholic tradition to me is the long history of mysticism in the church, said priest Victoria Rue, who also teaches theology and theater at San Jose State University. She finds particular inspiration in the women mystics of the Middle Ages. Priesthood, added Rue, is about leadership within the community. There are many types of ministries to which people are called, she said, concluding, I feel called to the ministry of the liturgy, which she described as communal worship.
Sigh.
You just know that there was a meeting about this one too.
Hi.
My name is Napoleon.
I’m an emperor.
Maybe that's because they hide their names and the place where this goofyness took place. But God knows.
Correction — schism
Gaius Julius Caesar Germanicus
Caius Caesar Caligula
“...took place at an interfaith center in Santa Barbara that reporters agreed not to name in exchange for an invitation to attend...”
Hmmm.... Look at the picture. I see an obviously modern (as in ugly) building with permanent stations of the cross imbedded in the wall (and, from the looks of it, the AC duct). Looks like a Catholic church bldg to me. Anyone else think so? Why else would the location be so “secret.”
Anyone here from Santa Barbara and recognize the interior? Some “progressive” parish priest may have some ‘splaining to do....
For the conversion of sinners.
"We got bored with wearing Mommy's high-heels! Wearing Father's chasuble is ever so much more fun!"
I see only a red x!
Is it just me?
LOVE IT!
Them saying they are catholic is like me saying I’m a roman centurion. Saying it all they want does not make it so.
This is very much like those who practice polygamy, yet call themselves "Mormon". I can empathize with the annoyance it might cause.
>>This is very much like those who practice polygamy, yet call themselves “Mormon”.<<
Bugs me too.
If one is not listening to the actual rules of that denomination, they are no longer of that denomination.
Come on everyone. This is a logical extension of the doctrine of making it all up as you go along.
They are part of a movement from within the Roman Catholic Church
No, all of these women, the male bishop(s) that "ordained" the first ones, and (if my understanding is correct) all those who participate willingly in their ceremonies are excommunicated latae sententiae (which means they've excommunicated themselves and may or may not receive a formal notice of excommunication).
that has been ordaining female priests since 2002,
Attempting to ordain is more accurate. They could attempt to ordain a duck or a chair or anything else that is not considered valid matter for the Sacrament of Holy Orders and have the same result: bupkis. The only valid matter is a validly baptized man.
though those involved say that the tradition of women priests and bishops dates as far back as Mary Magdalene, whom they consider an apostle of Jesus.
Dubious scholarship at best. From all orthodox scholarship, there is no evidence that Mary Magdalene was considered an apostle on par with the Twelve and their successors.
The participants in this movement fervently hope to be embraced by the Vatican, as other splinter groups have been before them
Given the nature of the documents Inter Insignores (1976) and Ordinatio Sacerdotalis (1994), the latter of which a number of Catholic scholars considers to contain an infallible statement regarding the ordination of women, I think not.
uh.....no longer Catholic, let alone a Catholic PRIEST! Man, they are dancing on the trapdoor of hell.
She's trying. Nobody's that ugly unless they try to be.
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