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New York Catholics visit mosque, learn about Islam
CNS ^ | August 9, 2007 | Beth Griffin

Posted on 08/13/2007 4:37:16 PM PDT by NYer

WAPPINGERS FALLS, N.Y. (CNS) -- In late July, carloads of curious Catholics caravanned north from their church to a mosque in the next county.

Three dozen Catholics who regularly attend Mass at the Franciscan Friars of the Atonement's Graymoor Spiritual Life Center in Garrison accepted a Muslim visitor's invitation to attend services at Masjid Al-Noor, his mosque in Wappingers Falls.

Entering the two-story white frame building, the visitors placed their shoes alongside their host's on wire racks lining one wall of the foyer.

The women, already modestly covered from chin to ankle, pulled on scarves to cover their hair. The men were directed through double doors to a large simple, rug-covered room on the first floor and the women were invited upstairs to a balcony overlooking the same prayer room.

The walls of the prayer room were sparsely decorated with metal plaques proclaiming God's greatness in Arabic, a large clock and several bookshelves with various editions of the Quran and devotional books. The front of the room had a small, raised carpeted platform for the imam, the religious scholar who led the service.

People greeted one another quietly and lined up, shoulder to shoulder, in rows that stretched across the room. Everyone faced east, the direction of Mecca, Saudi Arabia, Islam's holy city. Folding chairs in the back of the two prayer areas were used by people who had difficulty sitting and kneeling on the floor, or accomplishing the deep bows that punctuated the prayers.

Muslims are required to pray five times a day and men are obliged to attend a communal service on Fridays. Women are not required to interrupt their routines to go to the mosque for Friday prayer. Three-quarters of the more than 200 people who attended one recent Friday service at Masjid Al-Noor were men.

The 45-minute service was conducted in spoken and intoned Arabic, with three portions in English: a short reflection on the reading from the Quran, intercessory prayers and communal announcements.

At one Friday service, Imam Mohammed Asil Khan chose to speak on a Scripture passage, or "sura," that described the "Miracles of Jesus and the Miracles of Mohammed." He later explained that Muslims consider Jesus to be a prophet, but not divine.

The Catholic visitors told Catholic News Service they were grateful for the opportunity to attend the services and speak with members of the congregation.

"Our hosts were very welcoming and it was insightful to have casual conversation about being Muslim and learning about the diversity within their own community," said Ruth Ann McAndrews.

She was particularly interested in the discussion of the "challenge of instilling each religion's traditions and faith in the youth through Sunday school and after-school programs."

"The thing that struck me," said Dan Donnelly, "was the commonality that pervades. We have significant doctrinal differences. They don't believe in the Trinity or in the divinity of Jesus, but we have a common father who created us and we should all love one another."

He was also intrigued by the lack of a hierarchy and came to a better understanding of the role of the imam.

"I thought of the imams as the priesthood," he said, "but I learned that they are religious scholars who are chosen by the community to be teachers. If an imam is not available, the people can choose another person to lead the service."

Joyce Evans said, "I left there knowing for certain that our faiths could make us closer to each other. Praying with the Muslims can't take anything away from Catholicism. In fact, it enhances my Catholicism to honor them and work with them."

She continued, "You can read about Islam in a book, but to see the fervor of their devotion really touched me and I came away being a better Catholic."

Most of the worshippers at Masjid Al-Noor are Sunni Muslims, although Shiites are welcome and constitute a small percentage of the congregation, according to Imam Khan. There is no official membership roll, he said, so it is hard to estimate the size of the congregation.

The worship community represents 26 different countries and includes a small number of converts. Imam Khan is a Pakistani who holds master's degrees in Arabic and Islamic studies. He has a full-time association with the mosque.

Atonement Father James J. Gardiner, director of the Graymoor Spiritual Life Center, organized the visits, which came out of a December 2006 event at the center.

"At our Advent vespers, we invited people from different traditions to speak. We had Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Christian Missionary Alliance and Muslim speakers," he said. "At the time, Umar H. Ahmad was the president of the Mid-Hudson Islamic Association, which worships at Masjid Al-Noor.

"Dr. Ahmad spoke 'In Praise of Mary' and at the end of his talk he invited the participants to visit his mosque, attend services and enjoy fellowship with the imam and other members of the congregation," the priest said. So two visits were scheduled in July.

Imam Khan expressed interest in making a reciprocal visit to Graymoor. "Quran tells us that how you deal with your neighbors is very important," he said.


TOPICS: Catholic; Islam; Ministry/Outreach; Worship
KEYWORDS: apostacy; franciscan; heresy; islam; mosque; ny; sellouts; sheeruttermadness
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1 posted on 08/13/2007 4:37:19 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Speechless!


2 posted on 08/13/2007 4:38:00 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Why not just drive down to Ground Zero, that’s lesson enough.


3 posted on 08/13/2007 4:39:47 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer
Were there any Chemistry classes?

ML/NJ

4 posted on 08/13/2007 4:40:00 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: NYer

I read about a Dutch bishop urging Catholics to call God allah. We’re not far from that situation here. Muslims hi-5ing each other again for the umpteenth time. I never thought the west was that easy to conquer.


5 posted on 08/13/2007 4:45:24 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: NYer
She continued, "You can read about Islam in a book, but to see the fervor of their devotion really touched me and I came away being a better Catholic or you can wait until they knock on your door wanting to convert or kill you."
6 posted on 08/13/2007 4:46:31 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Democrats In Control! (Where's my friggin' free stuff?))
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I would imagine that hoards of Muslims couldn’t wait to attend Church and learn about Jesus Christ in the spirit of fairness........NOT


7 posted on 08/13/2007 4:46:32 PM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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To: wagglebee

I would not go.


8 posted on 08/13/2007 4:46:38 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

I thought we Catholics were discouraged from this kind of thing? Am I wrong?


9 posted on 08/13/2007 4:47:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Salvation

Me, either.


10 posted on 08/13/2007 4:49:04 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

One,
Holy,
Catholic,
Apostolic


11 posted on 08/13/2007 4:50:01 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

To Ground Zero or a mosque?


12 posted on 08/13/2007 4:50:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Can’t wait for the members of the Religion of Peace to go to a Catholic church, bless themselves with Holy Water, genuflect before the altar of God, and then sit in a pew. I don’t think that will ever happen. They’d sooner cut the head off the hapless stooge that followed them to the mosque to get some diversity training. Hogwash on the whole idea!


13 posted on 08/13/2007 4:50:14 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: NYer

do these loons not know the life of Saint Francis? Saint Francis wore the Crusader’s cross. Francis went to the Holy Land to convert the muslims or die trying. Do these people not know of Saint Clare and the Saracens?


14 posted on 08/13/2007 4:50:23 PM PDT by Nihil Obstat (Count your blessings)
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they were lucky to come back alive


15 posted on 08/13/2007 4:51:58 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: NYer
I lived in Saudi Arabia for five years.
I started attending Mass daily OVER THERE. Lol.
Whooda thunk I would have gotten the "spirit" over there? In fact, my Muslim boss paved the way.
16 posted on 08/13/2007 4:52:10 PM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: wagglebee
You are so right!

My polyglot, bi-ritual (Maronite and Roman Rite) pastor, who hails from Lebanon, attended a seminar not long ago, given by a convert to Islam. It was held at a local Catholic college. He listened to the spiel of the presenter on the pacifist nature of Islam and waited for the Q & A session. Dressed in his clericals, the moment she asked for questions, he shot his arm up in the air. When called upon, he opened the Q'uran, cited a particular sura and asked why Moslems were required to persecute christians. The members of the audience stared intently at the presenter, awaiting her response. She suggested that book from which he was reading was a poor translation from the original text. With that, he opened up the Q'uran in Arabic and reread the same sura. All those heads focused on him now turned towards the presenter. Her face turned a violent shade of red, she mumbled something in Arabic and moved on to the next question. Father patiently waited for the lull in questions to raise his hand again. She totally ignored him, at which point he handed his question to another Arabic speaking member of our community.

There is only one thing to understand about Islam. It is a heresy!.

17 posted on 08/13/2007 4:54:03 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Nihil Obstat

Or of the Miracle of Lepanto?


18 posted on 08/13/2007 4:55:27 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

Everything we need to know about islam can be learned from any one of their many beheading videos.


19 posted on 08/13/2007 4:56:08 PM PDT by LilAngel (No blood for quislings)
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To: wagglebee

I would not go to a mosque.

Would be more than happy to visit Ground Zero!


20 posted on 08/13/2007 4:56:23 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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