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Sublime [Nearly 1,000 Attend Return of Traditional Latin Mass in Burlington]
the owl of the remove ^ | August 16, 2007 | the owl of the remove

Posted on 08/16/2007 8:40:20 PM PDT by Diago

Sublime


Once again, I should be writing my column, but I would much rather tell you about the wonderful celebration of the Rite of Blessed John XXIII last night at St. Joseph's Co-Cathedral. On an extremely humid night in Burlington, I thought we might have three or four hundred people at the Mass. St. Joseph's holds eleven hundred and I would guess that we had nearly one thousand people present. It was extraordinary: many young people, young families, a real cross-section. Bishop Matano really did well, preaching with great passion. His comment,"if this is what it takes to fill our Churches, so be it," has echoed around the Web, judging by a few sites I have visited. It was more than twenty years since I had last attended an Old Rite Mass, my first time as a priest in Choir. Apart from having extremely sore knees (good penance, as one of my priestly brethren pointed out) and sweating like a small suckling pig, I suddenly realized why the Holy Father has liberated this extraordinary rite from the artificial shackles imposed in the past. My insight is neither profound nor original, but it was powerfully experienced: the Old Rite is entirely TRANSCENDENT, "Sursum Corda - Lift up your hearts" - it is profoundly THEOCENTRIC, not anthropocentric. It is worship......I get the feeling things will never be the same!

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1 posted on 08/16/2007 8:40:23 PM PDT by Diago
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To: Diago

Burlington? where?


2 posted on 08/16/2007 8:47:27 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: Diago
I suddenly realized why the Holy Father has liberated this extraordinary rite from the artificial shackles imposed in the past

I like his wording!

3 posted on 08/16/2007 8:51:09 PM PDT by maryz
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To: mdittmar

Vermont. As I understand it, there wasn’t one indult in Vermont.


4 posted on 08/16/2007 8:53:08 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

Well,that puts a new wheel on the wagon,don’t it.


5 posted on 08/16/2007 8:56:50 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: Diago

Yea, I wake of every morning wishing that I could attend a religious service presented in a language I don’t understand.


6 posted on 08/16/2007 9:05:04 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: doc1019
It's an easy language to learn especially when it is printed in parallel form, Latin and English side by side. Easy to spot the cognates. Cheap education!

I have stood next to teenagers who could say the 'Gloria' as easily as I can. Latin is no barrier for anyone with reasonable intelligence.

7 posted on 08/16/2007 9:16:41 PM PDT by pbear8 (Padre Pio please pray for Tony Snow)
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To: pbear8

But, why? English is my language … preach to me in my native language. In my youth I suffered through Latin Masses, beautiful, but not understandable to the average citizen..


8 posted on 08/16/2007 9:27:41 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: doc1019

Funny, I understood the Latin mass perfectly. I also understood that the Priest was not addressing to me but to God. The missal made it possible for me to know what the words meant. But the actions could be interporeted by any child. The Epistle and Gospel were in English, as was the sermon. My problem was the sermon, but few priest were gifted preachers. The minister at the Presbyterian Church I formerly attended gave much better sermons.


9 posted on 08/16/2007 9:36:43 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: doc1019

Gee — Muslims everywhere use Arabic to worship Allah and Jews use Hebrew. I think that members of the Church can figure out a bit of Latin. My barbarian ancestors did it.


10 posted on 08/16/2007 9:52:26 PM PDT by Klondike
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To: Frank Sheed; Pyro7480

Ping!


11 posted on 08/16/2007 9:54:57 PM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: doc1019

Then don’t attend a Latin Mass. It isn’t all about you and what you want anyway, it is about Jesus.


12 posted on 08/16/2007 10:00:04 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki

thank you


13 posted on 08/16/2007 10:20:27 PM PDT by FreeRadical (Pray. Make Babies. Teach. Repeat.)
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To: Diago
Thanks for this.

Mary Alexander has a post up on her blo Against All Heresies about the Mass, Finally in Vermont: A Latin Mass. Her two boys served the Mass. Quoting:
WCAX has video and a story here. . . .

The Bishop's homily was phenomenal. The most riveting for me was when His Excellency declared:

"As the Shepherd of this Diocese, I will do whatever it takes, in union with the Holy Father, Pope Benedict, to fill the Churches of this diocese. This is your home. This is your home. THIS is your home!"

The Mass was said beautifully. The choir was amazing. The sermon was proclaimed with conviction.

But at the end of the day it is not the beauty of the liturgy, the transcendant nature of the worship, or the reverence shown by the Faithful but how all these elements combined bring about the salavation of souls. May God will it thus.
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14 posted on 08/16/2007 10:54:33 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: doc1019

The homily is always in the vernacular.


15 posted on 08/17/2007 7:11:08 AM PDT by pbear8 (Padre Pio please pray for Tony Snow)
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16 posted on 08/17/2007 8:31:58 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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17 posted on 08/17/2007 8:34:11 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Mike Fieschko

God’s will be done.

Blessed be the name of the Lord.


18 posted on 08/17/2007 8:39:59 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Holy Cow Scooter , you made it! Phil Rizzuto 1917-2007)
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To: Mike Fieschko; Diago; maryz; Frank Sheed
From Rocco Palmo .........


Summer of '07 = Spring of '62

"And if this is what it takes to fill our churches, so be it!"

That was Bishop Salvatore Matano of Burlington's line last night as St Joseph's Co-Cathedral was packed (with old and young... and many in mantillas) for the Vermont prelate's celebration of the "Extraordinary Rite" of the Eucharist. Local coverage -- with video -- here....

...but did he don the buskins?

Never to be outdone, while the Wedding of the Sea revellers were still drying off at the Shore, Assumption Night marked the annual return of the Mater Ecclesiae community to Camden's Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception for its annual Mass there. Founded in 2000 on what had been a schismatic compound, the South Jersey parish was the first in the US to offer exclusive use of the 1962 rites.

It's now less than a month until the provisions of Pope Benedict's motu proprio on the pre-Conciliar liturgical use go into effect. However, the definitive text of Summorum Pontificum still has yet to be released...

That won't happen until the next edition of the Acta Apostolicae Sedis -- the Vatican's official chronicle of papal acts -- drops in mid-September. Between the document's July release and the Acta's publication, sources say that the document's wording could well see a slight tweak here and there.

In the meantime, requests for authoritative clarification (known as dubia) on elements of the new norms are going to the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei by the ream from the dioceses and episcopal conferences. Entrusted with the final word in overseeing the Missal of Bl John XXIII and its celebration, the commission's responses will settle not a few points of contention that've come to light in the motu's wake.


19 posted on 08/17/2007 8:49:14 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: doc1019

My, me, my, my, I.


20 posted on 08/17/2007 8:53:30 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Holy Cow Scooter , you made it! Phil Rizzuto 1917-2007)
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