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1 posted on 09/14/2007 8:08:43 AM PDT by Balt
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To: Balt

Is there a proper Pontifical Commission to bring this up with?

I thought the Pope was planning to “quash” at least the worst excesses of the bishops conferences.


2 posted on 09/14/2007 8:12:59 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Balt

Very interesting points, particularly the last.


3 posted on 09/14/2007 8:14:19 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("My parrot thinks you're cute. I think so, too!")
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To: Balt

**. Do not, however, look for her appointment to be recinded.**

We can ask.

At the bottom of the USCCB page:

Email us at nabquestion@usccb.org
New American Bible | 3211 4th Street, N.E., Washington DC 20017-1194 | (202) 541-3000 © USCCB. All rights reserved.

(I know it is the email for the daily readings, nevertheless, we can snow them. Also phone contact.


4 posted on 09/14/2007 8:19:16 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Balt

I forgot to mention: links to the two web sites cited work on the original post at Priestly Pugilist. I just didn’t know how to make them work here.


5 posted on 09/14/2007 8:21:21 AM PDT by Balt
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To: Balt

remember today’s senior church leaders of all denominations formed their values in the late 60’s, early 70’s. Most church and university notables came from the “hippie” side of the fence whereas others from the more structured side.

I, too come from that era but was involved as a teacher/ coach and then law enforcement. I thought those guys were bad news then, and still do!!!


6 posted on 09/14/2007 8:53:46 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: NYer; Barney Gumble

Ping! Why is this woman being named to this post? Is she even Catholic, or Lutheran?


7 posted on 09/14/2007 9:43:07 AM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: Balt
Back in the late '80s, the future pope, Cardinal Ratzinger, who had not long been in Rome at that time, said in an interview that many bishops in the world are burying the faith under a mountain of programs and initiatives, thinking that this, somehow, furthers the cause of Christ. "What the Church needs," he said, "is holiness, not management."

Then as now, one word from the Pope, and everyone does exactly as he pleases! *sigh*

8 posted on 09/14/2007 10:42:05 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Balt
After a re-reading, I ammended the last paragraph as follows:

By the way, here's a PP prediction: once the word gets around that the bishops' new Director of Domestic Policy once lent her skills to a group dedicated to "empowering pro-choice women," look for the press release on her appointment to be pulled from the USCCB web site. Do not, however, look for her appointment to be recinded. Another prediction: look for Msgr. Malloy to explain to us that Ms. Saile's speaking engagement with a pro-abortion group doesn't prove she buys into their agenda. Correct. And, if that's the case, it merely proves her completely mind-boggling lack of good judgement. She ought to fit right in at the USCCB.

9 posted on 09/14/2007 10:42:17 AM PDT by Balt
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To: Balt; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; ...

Who nominates these people?!


10 posted on 09/14/2007 10:42:33 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Balt
My letter to the USCCCP:
To Whom It May Concern:

I'm confused. First, by your press release of 14 September, 2007:

"Kathy Saile, a church advocate with a decade of experience in Catholic social ministry and Washington policy work, has been named Director of Domestic Policy for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB). She starts her new position in October. Since August 2004, Saile has been Associate Director of Public Policy for Lutheran Services in America (USA), in Washington."

Adding to my confusion, USCCB General Secretary Msgr. David Malloy spoke to the press yesterday regarding Ms. Saile's appointment:

“Kathy Saile brings to this important position strong commitment to the Catholic Church and its social teaching,.. Her service in diocesan social ministry and here in the nation’s capital will be great assets in helping the bishops articulate and advance the Church’s principles and policies seeking economic and social justice in our nation.”

As I am certain you are aware, Ms Saile last year delivered a dinner address to WIN, which promotes itself as "Washington’s premier professional, political, and social network dedicated to empowering young, Democratic, pro-choice women."

With these perplexing statements in mind, I feel compelled to respectfully ask: How can a "young pro-choice woman" have a "strong commitment to the Catholic Church and its social teaching"? The Church teaches that abortion is a mortal sin under any circumstances. This would seem to conflict with Ms. Sailes' job of "helping the bishops articulate and advance the Church’s principles and policies seeking economic and social justice in our nation".

To sum up: WTF?

I eagerly await your announcement of Ms. Saile's' conversion to the pro-life cause. Barring that, I await your announcement of her dismissal.

Yours in Christian Fraternity,
[B-chan]

Their reply will take 4 to 6 weeks. I'm sure it will be hilarious.
14 posted on 09/14/2007 11:16:36 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Balt

The USCCB has plenty of contact addresses..personally, I’d contact them all. In fact, I will and I suggess that everyone do so.


30 posted on 09/15/2007 8:42:23 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: Balt

We’ve been discussing this appointment at “cafeteria is closed.” http://closedcafeteria.blogspot.com/...-director.html

I don’t know that Ms. Saile is a pro choicer but her appearance at WIN was much more insidious than the issue of her pro choice affiliation for she is nothing more than a lobbyist skilled in getting votes. The purpose of WIN, as stated in it mission, is to elect “pro-choice, Democratic women” and it supports a sordid menagerie of alternative life style and far left causes including its “Queer” group (their word not mine). What Ms. Saile did was to appear before WIN as an expert to strategize over how to get the “religious” vote to support them and their sordid causes. In other words, Ms. Saile uses her “religious” connections (she was formerly employed by the Phoenix Diocese and the Lutherans) to deceive to religious people and Catholics on why they should vote for pro abortionist, pro-”queer”, lefties and to win an election for the democratic party. This mind you at a time when the next Supreme Court appointee could end the hideous line of abortion decisions. Regardless of your political sentiments or affiliation, Ms. Saile is now the Domestic Policy Advisor for the Roman Catholic Church in America and she needs your vote. If you think that this is the sort of thing that the Church should be doing, then all this is probably fine with you, but if you are offended by the bishops engaging in this sort of nonsense regardless of your party, then you should contact the USCCB and tell them to behave like good shepherds instead of politicians.


31 posted on 09/16/2007 5:04:25 PM PDT by cthemfly25
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To: Balt
Did you catch this about Kathy Saile -- I found it at The Cafeteria Is Closed, but it's making the rounds!

"We've begun to regress to some pre-Vatican II activities, like singing Latin responses. I don't understand any of it!"

Kathy Saile of Phoenix, Arizona, newly appointed Domestic Policy boss for the USCCB. Miss Saile does however understand how to give a speech for a pro-abortion lobbying group.


32 posted on 09/17/2007 10:07:20 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Balt; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
US Conference of Catholic Bishops Appoints Woman with Pro-Abortion Ties as Policy Director

By Matthew Cullinan Hoffman

WASHINGTON, September 17, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) -- Kathy Saile, who once gave a speech on promoting liberalism at a conference held by a pro-abortion group, has been named
Director of Domestic Policy for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB).  Previous to the appointment, Saile was Associate Director of Public Policy for Lutheran Services in America (USA), an organization that serves the extremely liberal Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (ELCA), which recently declared that their "clergy" were free to participate in homosexual relationships. In her official capacity as Associate Director of Public Policy for the group, Saile gave a speech at a conference held by the organization "WIN", which describes itself as "Washington's premier professional, political, and social network dedicated to empowering young, Democratic, pro-choice women."  The topic of the discussion was "Did the Left Cede Heaven? The Intersection of Faith and Politics."

The summary of the conference given on WIN's website reads: "Throughout American history religion has shaped US politics. Recent history has focused on the efforts and effects of Conservative Christians in the Republican Party, but the Left continues to be a party of people of faith. This dinner will highlight the way liberal people of faith organize to further progressive causes."  LifeSiteNews has also confirmed that Lutheran Services in America has a policy of distributing birth control at clinics affiliated with the organization.  A request for a response from the USCCB's press spokesman, Sr. Mary Anne Walsh, was not answered at the time of publication.

Contact Information:

United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
3211 4th Street, N.E.
Washington DC 20017-1194
(202) 541-3000
commdept@usccb.org,mwalsh@usccb.org

Sr. Mary Ann Walsh, mwalsh@usccb.org (202) 541-3200.

It took me a while to find Sr. Walsh's e-mail address so let her have it and e mail her your complaint.

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33 posted on 09/18/2007 10:34:27 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Balt

Don’t want to throw cold water on the story, but is there any proof that the woman is pro-abortion? Just because she was a speaker at a liberal conference doesn’t make her so.


34 posted on 09/19/2007 3:34:13 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Balt
Maybe itÂ’s coincidence - maybe itÂ’s Providence - maybe itÂ’s just plain weird; but, hereÂ’s a bit of dovetailing - a wing nut, if you will, to link our two previous posts together.
It comes from The Free Library web site, and is apparently a reprint of an article from US Catholic Magazine entitled, “What do you get out of Mass,” authored by Mary Lynn Hendrickson. Of course, your Priestly Pugilist would love to expound on why the title of the article shows that the author has absolutely no concept of what Christian worship is about in general, nor the Mass in particular (it's not about "what we get out of it”); but that would distract from the revelation I want you to notice. The article included responses to a survey including, among others, the following question:

Compared to when I was young, one of the ways I think Mass has changed for the worse is:

Among the many less than lucid and insipid answers given by clue-less people who also have no idea what Christian worship is all about, was this gem:

"We've begun to regress to some pre-Vatican II activities, like singing Latin responses. I don't understand any of it!" Kathy Saile of Phoenix, Arizona.

My, my. What a small world. And it looks like your Priestly Pugilist was wrong. Ms. Saile's appointment as USCCB Director of Domestic Policy is still on the official web site, which means it's worse than I thought.

by Priestly Pugilist


Pope Benedict trying to sell Summorum Pontificum to the American bishops.
This is meant as a joke:




Unfortunately, this isn't:


47 posted on 09/20/2007 9:34:36 AM PDT by Balt
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