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Saint Malachy, Prophecies about 112 popes until the end of the world, the last five Popes
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Posted on 10/14/2007 8:25:58 PM PDT by Salvation

Saint Malachy 
Prophecies about 112 popes until the end of the world.

Note: The Church does not lean on private revelation for doctrinal matters, but it does not oppose to the faithful obtaining benefit from them so long as they don't go against our faith.  

This analysis focuses on the last five Popes in the context of the prophecies of Saint Malachy.

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Saint Malachy was born in Amagh Ireland in 1094, he lived a religious life as a monk, then he was ordained priest and finally Bishop. He was canonized in 1199 by Pope Clement III. His biography was compiled by Saint Bernard, a contemporaneous saint.

He made a pilgrimage to Rome and during the end of the year 1139 and the beginning of 1140 had a series of visions about 112 Popes from Celestine III, elected Pontiff in 1130 until the last Pope who is described in his list as Peter Romanus.

After the last Roman Pontiff, Saint Malachy predicts the end of the world.

The Benedictine historian Arnold Wion was the first person to mention these prophecies in his book Lignum Vitae, published in 1559.

These prophecies are short, but they have demonstrated to be very accurate, even though in the time of their publication they caused much controversy as some claimed that they were falsified.

The book of prophecies of Saint Malachy was published originally in 1969 by Colin Smythe Ltd. in England, with the title "Prophecies of St. Malachy and St. Columbkille."

Tan Books published the book in the United States in 1973 with the title "Prophecies of Saint Malachy" its author is Peter Bander.

The foreword reads like this:

In publishing THE PROPHECIES OF SAINT MALACHY, Colin Smythe Limited have produced an instructive and entertaining book.

There is great deal of instant information in Peter Bander's nutshell biographical accounts of the popes who occupied the Roman See since the year 1143 to our present time - and indeed of the antipopes as well. The remarkable way in which the visions St Malachy is alleged to have had, are shown to apply to the succesive individual popes is most amusing. Is it not the case to repeat: "Se non e vero, e ben trovato"? (If it is not true, it is well rhymed)

Whatever one may think of the genuineness of the prophecies attributed to Saint Malachy, here is a fascinating study which provides the curious reader with much profit and pleasure.

Archbishop H.E. Cardinale
Apostolic Nuncio to Belgium and Luxemburg, until recently Apostolic Delegate to Great Britain.

It is curious to think that whenever there is a Conclave, the Cardinals read these prophecies of the saint, and even though they are not ecclesiastic authority they give an idea of what has happen and of what is to occur.

Prophecies of Saint Malachy

This study is an analysis based on private revelation and observations of what is taking place now. It is not to be taken as an official position of the Church. It is good to remind us of the words of the Lord: "stay awake."

The last five popes are mentioned with the following titles: 
Flos Florum
De medietate Lunae
De Labore Solis
Gloria Olivae
Petrus Romanus


Flos Florum - Flower of flowers

Saint Malachy Prophecies, Popes, end of the worldPope Paul VI 
Pontiff from 1963 to 1978. 

Giovanni Battista Montini. In his coat of arms there are three "fleurs de lis"

With great success he concluded Vatican Council II, he made rigorous reforms to the Roman Curia, he traveled the five continents and was called peregrine pope .  In 1965 he was well received and accepted at his address to the UN. Author of the encyclicals
opulorum progressio (1967), Humanae vitae July 24, 1968. He died in August 6, 1978, feast of the Transfiguration.

De medietate Lunae - Of the half moon

Saint Malachy Prophecies,Popes, end of the worldPapa Juan Pablo I ' Abino Luciani
Pontiff for 33 days.

He was born on 17 of October 1912 in Forno di Canale, called now Canale de Agordo, he was baptized the same day by his midwife, for fear of his death, he was later baptized by a priest.

After a life dedicated to the Church as a priest, he was elected Pope during the second day of the Conclave in August 26, 1978. He died of cardiac attack in September 28 1978, thirty three days after the beginning of his papacy.

"De la media luna" Of the half moon is a very accurate description regarding his beginning and also his short pontificate. Even his name Abino Luciani means white light, it has been mentioned that the most important events of his life took place in dates of half moon.


De Labore Solis -
From the toil of the sun - or - Of the eclipse of the sun.

Pope  John Paul II 
Pontiff from 1978 to 2005

This description fits John Paul II perfectly, since he emerged as a especial light for the Catholic Church, promoting the faith from all angles. The works of John Paul II were truly the work of God, the labor of the sun.

The second meaning of "De labore solis" is a solar eclipse, in which the sun seems to struggle in order to give its light. Perhaps the fact that John Paul II, was a very Marian Pope who had a special devotion to the Virgin Mary, the woman clothed with the sun that appears in the Apocalypse, suggests that the sun (Our Lord) has been temporarily eclipsed by the moon (Our Lady). 

John Paul II was a great humanist and peacemaker, a traveler Pope, proclaimer of the gospel in more than 130 countries throughout the world, author of many apostolic letters, encyclicals and books. Canonizer of more saints in his pontificate than any other Pope in all history. During his last years as Pope he concluded his pontificate proclaiming the Holy Trinity, the Virgin Mary and the Eucharist.

Year 1997. God the Son
Year 1998. God the Holy Spirit

Year 1999. God the Father
Year 2000 
24 December 1999 - 6 January 2001Great Jubilee. 

Year 2002-2003. Year of the Holy Rosary, institution of the Luminous mysteries.16 October 2002 - 31 October 2003
Year 2005. The Holy Eucharist.
17 October 2004 - 29 October 2005

Gloria Olivae - The Glory of the olive

Benedict XVI 
Joseph Ratzinger
Starts Pontificate in April 2005

He chose his name in honor of Saint Benedict, author of the very strict rule of the Benedictines.

His motto is "Co-worker of the Truth."

He has been known even before becoming Pope as a conservative man, ready to defend the Catholic principles that represent the truth of the teachings of Christ.

Our new Pontiff is covered under the sign of the olive according to the prophecies of St. Malachy

The branches of the olive were symbols of peace and victory for Noah after the flood. Throughout history, we know that olive branches have made crowns for kings and athletes as symbols of power and glory. The olive tree thrives in silent areas, such as the garden of olives where Jesus suffered his agony before being arrested by the soldiers.

Olive oil has anointed kings, saints, popes and in a especial way all Christians.

The leaves and the oil of the olive tree have medicinal properties, derived from the oleic acid which is an anti cancer component. The good kitchen cannot exist without olive oil. The best paints have olive oil base, to give them luster and to increase their durability.

The olive is a symbol of peace, abundance, glory and purification.

The Church has been through a period of light, and now is the the time to celebrate and pick up the fruits of the previous pontificate of John Paul. It is quite possible that they will bring many conversions and an increase in the faith especially from the young people.

With the purifying properties of the olive, our new Pontiff comes to challenge error.  He presents himself exposing the truth of our faith with a special courage, he is prepared to heal the cancer of heresy, the infection of apostasy and to promote the health of our Catholic faith.

According to the prophecies of Saint Malachy, Pope Benedict XVI is the Pope before the last one, named "Gloria Olivae" which means the glory of the olive, it is to be a time of glory and rejoicing for the true Church.   

Due to the straightforwardness of our new Pontiff, great opposition is expected, but the Spirit of God is with him and we are in good hands.

Petrus Romanus - Peter Roman

The apostle Peter was the first Pope of the Church, elected directly by our Lord Jesus Christ:

You are Peter, the rock. On this rock I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the Kingdom, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in Heaven, whatever you loose on earth will be loose in Heaven. (Matthew 16:18-19)

Peter, the same as Christ, drank of the same chalice of suffering when he died as a martyr.

The body of Christ, the Church represents our Lord Jesus Christ.

The last two pontiffs will have to face the fury of the enemy who will make a violent persecution to Christianity. Faithful as Peter, the last Pontiff will take care of his flock in the midst of the attacks of the enemy. 

2 Thessalonians 3-4 speaks of the apostasy of the last times before the second coming of Christ, when evil will be defying everything that is sacred. The man of iniquity, or the anti-Christ will take his seat in the temple of God. 

This does not necessarily means the embodiment of the devil but if could mean the evil that is being accepted broadly when human beings who are temples of the spirit of God are being desecrated by their own wickedness. 

Just as the Lord lived, taught us, gave us spiritual food and saved us by his death on the cross, the Church being the mystical body of Christ has a similar task. Therefore the church is to be persecuted, insulted and finally crucified, in preparation for the coming of the Lord.

But just as the Lord rose after his death, the Church will also be resurrected for the Glory of God.

No one knows the day nor the hour, but the Lord tells us to be ready.

The prophecies of Saint Malachy end like this:

In the persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock among many tribulations after which the seven hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people.



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To: dangus; xzins
Incidentally, that final clause of Malachy’s prophecy is recorded in a different handwriting than the rest.

If that is so, then the current pope is the last pope. No?

241 posted on 10/16/2007 11:03:51 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: dangus

I don’t think landscaping is the issue. Jerusalem has 4 at most, and probably just 3. The issue is whether they can count hills that are outside of Jerusalem.

I’d think they cannot. But, it’s the only way to get to 7.

Rome, on the other hand, has at least 7 hills inside the 100 AD city boundaries.


242 posted on 10/16/2007 11:08:11 AM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: XeniaSt

No. Only the end-times nature of the description of Peter the Roman implies that there are no further popes. In fact, nothing suggests that there would be any limit to the number of popes between Gloria Olivae and Peter Romanus.


243 posted on 10/16/2007 11:26:12 AM PDT by dangus
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To: xzins

I wish I knew how to find the thread, but I was shown a topographical map of the current Jerusalem, with three hills, and the ancient Jerusalem, which had seven inside the ancient boundaries.


244 posted on 10/16/2007 11:28:01 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Missey_Lucy_Goosey

Any RC writer who looks at this prophecy and interprets it as “the Pope is the anti-Christ” needs a new pair of glasses.

“In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.”

Since the Holy Spirit protects the Church from teaching error, any notion that the anti-Christ will have Peter’s seat is outlandish at best. No sitting Pope can preside over a false Church. The prophecy as translated indicates that the Church will be in the midst of great persecution, but the pope will provide for the sheep during the tribulation, after which the persecutor will be destroyed and the world will be judged. At worst, if my take on the prophecy is correct, the seat of Peter becomes vacant during the tribulation - there is no more succession - and Christ Himself returns. The end.

My opinion is just an opinion. Pious speculation is just speculation. But this is what I based it on.

1. No pope has taken the name Peter (except to whom the name was given, Simon bar-Jonah)

2. Peter was the first pope; “Peter the Roman” is supposedly the last pope.

3. Peter is the representative of Christ on earth.

4. Jesus is “first” and “last” (alpha and omega) just as “Peter” is the first pope and the “last” pope.

5. Jesus will come again to render the Final Judgment.

6. The Church will never fall - therefore, when Jesus comes, He will be the visible head (the pope) of the still-existent Church.

7. Thus, the title “Peter the Roman” gives me the impression that Peter the Roman is Christ Himself. “Peter” and “Christ” are symbolically interchangeable since one purposely represents the other. The “Roman” obviously denotes the Church at Rome - the Catholic Church.

At any rate. It’s for amusement purposes only. I don’t know any more than the next person and the track record for successfully predicting things like this is close to 0%.


245 posted on 10/16/2007 11:34:23 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Glenmerle
I was at one time contemplating becoming Catholic, but I've changed my mind. (Partly as a result of what I've read in this forum.)

FYI, Christ is the institution of the Catholic Church. If Christ isn't our focus, then why do certain Protestants expend so much energy attacking the Holy Eucharist, which is Christ Himself? Our liturgy, our sacraments, our creed is entirely centered on Jesus Christ. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't done any serious investigation. And unfortunately, it does require serious investigation, if only because 500 years of disinformation has so poisoned even the academic pursuit of Catholic understanding, that a large portion of society thinks that Jesus Christ was shagging Mary Magdalene because, well, Dan Brown said so.

Plainly speaking, the only people focusing on the "institution" of the Church are the people attacking it. The title of this thread wasn't, "Catholics Rule, Protestants are Whores". It was about the alleged prophecies of St. Malachy.

Catholics are obliged to defend their faith when it's attacked. Perhaps I'm more passionate than others. But when the powers that be come to your door and ask for your Bible, you'd better have the heart to say "no" - you'd better love your faith enough to suffer for it as Christ did. Maybe that means being a little unpopular on FR, but my faith was scandalized by certain "cheap shots" on this thread. At least the Church never backs down in the face of criticism, and neither should we. Read some of the writings of Justin Martyr and Athanasius and others. In the immortal words of Billy Joel, "we didn't start the fire".

I wish you well on your journey. The Church is a rock. You would do well to investigate it thoroughly. If not, so be it.

246 posted on 10/16/2007 12:38:28 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: dangus

I was looking at a topo map of ancient Jerusalem. It had 3 (possibly 4) hills inside the ancient boundaries.


247 posted on 10/16/2007 12:41:28 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: Missey_Lucy_Goosey
If memory serves me well, JPII put a lot of stock in the Malachy prophecy, and held that "Peter the Roman" would be the Antichrist who would lead the Roman church into apostasy.

By the way, where did you come up with this nugget?

248 posted on 10/16/2007 1:07:06 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Missey_Lucy_Goosey
If memory serves me well, JPII put a lot of stock in the Malachy prophecy, and held that "Peter the Roman" would be the Antichrist who would lead the Roman church into apostasy.

Like I said it is probably a fraud.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12473a.htm#malachy
249 posted on 10/16/2007 2:22:40 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Missey_Lucy_Goosey
If memory serves me well, JPII put a lot of stock in the Malachy prophecy, and held that "Peter the Roman" would be the Antichrist who would lead the Roman church into apostasy.

Like I said it is probably a fraud.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12473a.htm#malachy
250 posted on 10/16/2007 2:22:44 PM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: xzins; dangus
The Seven Hills of Jerusalem

But there's lots more seven-hilled cities to choose from. Which city was built on top of seven hills?

251 posted on 10/16/2007 2:39:29 PM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

I’ve read your article and seen similar.

The difference is the topographic map. There are not 7 hills inside the walls of ancient Jerusalem.

If folks wish to believe there were, that’s just fine with me. The fact remains, however, that there are not.


252 posted on 10/16/2007 3:14:40 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to murder your children, we can win the presidency)
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To: Religion Moderator
Thank you for your reply.

Do not use the word "damnable" as it encourages potty language.

Some English versions of the Bible use the term, "damnable heresies", and that was the idea I had when asking about the word. Certainly not in the vein of employing vulgarity or promoting vulgarity, but in the context of heresies being false beliefs that damn the soul to hell, which is the context used by the Apostles and early church.

Since it is objectionable, and personally I think is a tad PC, I do understand how on the internet it could be easily misunderstood, and will gladly use another term that cannot be misconstrued.

The other words are tolerable in religious debate providing the delivery is not hateful.

Thanks.

The main guideline is always this: discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

Which is always my goal, however, my experience of years on the net on boards like this one, shows me that no matter how much one strives to accomplish that goal, there are those who take things personally when nothing personal is said or intended and then take things to a personal level themselves.

253 posted on 10/16/2007 4:05:09 PM PDT by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: Salvation
Neither does Jerusalem.**

Neither does the Rome of today.

That does not change the fact that John was referring to Rome at the time it was written.

According to the Unam Sanctum and the "two swords" doctrine, Rome, or rather the Vatican does rule both the ecclesial and secular or "temporal" world as denoted in the following declaration from the "Unam Sanctum":

We are informed by the texts of the gospels that in this Church and in its power are two swords; namely, the spiritual and the temporal. For when the Apostles say: 'Behold, here are two swords' [Lk 22:38] that is to say, in the Church, since the Apostles were speaking, the Lord did not reply that there were too many, but sufficient. Certainly the one who denies that the temporal sword is in the power of Peter has not listened well to the word of the Lord commanding: 'Put up thy sword into thy scabbard' [Mt 26:52]. Both, therefore, are in the power of the Church, that is to say, the spiritual and the material sword, but the former is to be administered _for_ the Church but the latter by the Church; the former in the hands of the priest; the latter by the hands of kings and soldiers, but at the will and sufferance of the priest.

However, one sword ought to be subordinated to the other and temporal authority, subjected to spiritual power. For since the Apostle said: 'There is no power except from God and the things that are, are ordained of God' [Rom 13:1-2], but they would not be ordained if one sword were not subordinated to the other and if the inferior one, as it were, were not led upwards by the other.

It has been a long standing doctrine of Rome that the Roman church and pope of Rome are the supreme rulers of both the ecclesiastical realm as well as the temporal realm.

254 posted on 10/16/2007 4:44:21 PM PDT by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: Salvation
**There’s only one Truth **

The

One
Holy
Catholic
and
Apostolic
Church.

Which is not represented by the church of Rome.

255 posted on 10/16/2007 4:46:00 PM PDT by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: dangus

He now knows you wrote that :>)


256 posted on 10/16/2007 4:56:37 PM PDT by irishtenor (How much good could a Hindu do, if a Hindu could do good?)
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To: MarkBsnr
The Mass in its current form goes back to the 1st century.

Not hardly. The Eucharist was not seen as an onging sacrifice at all, that was a much later development in the western church after Theodosius I made Christianity the religion of the empire.

What sort of worship dost thou engage in?

The same as is described in the Didache.

Chapter 9. The Eucharist. Now concerning the Eucharist, give thanks this way. First, concerning the cup:

We thank thee, our Father, for the holy vine of David Thy servant, which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever..
Nothing there about the wine being the actual blood of Christ.

And concerning the broken bread:
We thank Thee, our Father, for the life and knowledge which You madest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever. Even as this broken bread was scattered over the hills, and was gathered together and became one, so let Thy Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into Thy kingdom; for Thine is the glory and the power through Jesus Christ for ever..

Nothing about the bread being the actual, literal flesh of Christ.

But let no one eat or drink of your Eucharist, unless they have been baptized into the name of the Lord; for concerning this also the Lord has said, "Give not that which is holy to the dogs."

Chapter 10. Prayer after Communion. But after you are filled, give thanks this way:

We thank Thee, holy Father, for Thy holy name which You didst cause to tabernacle in our hearts, and for the knowledge and faith and immortality, which You modest known to us through Jesus Thy Servant; to Thee be the glory for ever. Thou, Master almighty, didst create all things for Thy name's sake; You gavest food and drink to men for enjoyment, that they might give thanks to Thee; but to us You didst freely give SPIRITUAL food and drink and life eternal through Thy Servant. Before all things we thank Thee that You are mighty; to Thee be the glory for ever. Remember, Lord, Thy Church, to deliver it from all evil and to make it perfect in Thy love, and gather it from the four winds, sanctified for Thy kingdom which Thou have prepared for it; for Thine is the power and the glory for ever. Let grace come, and let this world pass away. Hosanna to the God (Son) of David! If any one is holy, let him come; if any one is not so, let him repent. Maranatha. Amen.

We agree with the Didache that the "cup and bread" are SPIRITUAL food, not the actual, literal blood and flesh of Jesus as Rome later came to believe.

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257 posted on 10/16/2007 5:00:36 PM PDT by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: dangus
If you read the actual statements of Petrine authority by the church

I have, which is precisely why the early church fathers did not have any concept of petrine primacy in any pro-Roman papal sense at all.

, instead of our short-hand recaps, you would see that the Church finds that Augustine’s and Eusebius’s comments to be fully consistent with papal infallibility

Of course Rome misrepresents the writings of Eusebius and Augustine, taking them out of context to imply a pro-Roman papal primacy when none was ever implied. Rome reads later papal doctrines back into them where they do not exist.

: it is not the MAN, but the DOCTRINE asserted BY the man, which is what the papal element of the magisterium consists of.

Wrong!

The rock was faith, but Peter was called, “rock” because he embodied that faith, and to he who embodied that faith was given the authority.

Wrong again, Peter was not given any sole authority at all, and the early church fathers did not teach that. Rather, Peter was a figure of the Church and every single believer was given the "keys", as the Peter is simply representative of all true believers and what was promised to Peter is given to all believers who truly follow Christ. They all become what Peter is. This is the view expressed in the following comments from Origin:

And if we too have said like Peter, ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God,’ not as if flesh and blood had revealed it unto us, but by the light from the Father in heaven having shone in our heart, we become a Peter, and to us there might be said by the Word, ‘Thou art Peter,’ etc. For a rock is every disciple of Christ of whom those drank who drank of the spiritual rock which followed them, and upon every such rock is built every word of the Church, and the polity in accordance with it; for in each of the perfect, who have the combination of words and deeds and thoughts which fill up the blessedness, is the church built by God.

But if you suppose that upon the one Peter only the whole church is built by God, what would you say about John the son of thunder or each one of the Apostles? Shall we otherwise dare to say, that against Peter in particular the gates of Hades shall not prevail, but that they shall prevail against the other Apostles and the perfect? Does not the saying previously made, ‘The gates of Hades shall not prevail against it,’ hold in regard to all and in the case of each of them? And also the saying, ‘Upon this rock I will build My Church?’ Are the keys of the kingdom of heaven given by the Lord to Peter only, and will no other of the blessed receive them? But if this promise, ‘I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven,’ be common to others, how shall not all things previously spoken of, and the things which are subjoined as having been addressed to Peter, be common to them?

‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ If any one says this to Him...he will obtain the things that were spoken according to the letter of the Gospel to that Peter, but, as the spirit of the Gospel teaches to every one who becomes such as that Peter was. For ALL(emphasis mine) bear the surname ‘rock’ who are the imitators of Christ, that is, of the spiritual rock which followed those who are being saved, that they may drink from it the spiritual draught. But these bear the surname of rock just as Christ does. But also as members of Christ deriving their surname from Him they are called Christians, and from the rock, Peters...And to all such the saying of the Savior might be spoken, ‘Thou art Peter’ etc., down to the words, ‘prevail against it.’ But what is the it? Is it the rock upon which Christ builds the Church, or is it the Church? For the phrase is ambiguous. Or is it as if the rock and the Church were one and the same? This I think to be true; for neither against the rock on which Christ builds His Church, nor against the Church will the gates of Hades prevail. Now, if the gates of Hades prevail against any one, such an one cannot be a rock upon which the Christ builds the Church, nor the Church built by Jesus upon the rock---(Allan Menzies, Ante–Nicene Fathers (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1951), Origen, Commentary on Matthew, Chapters 10-11).

I wonder why the authors of Jesus, Peter and the Keys left that quote out?

In reality, the early church fathers had no concept of any petrine primacy being bestowed on the bishops of Rome as any supreme rulers of the Church as the successors of Peter, as Rome came to attempt to claim.

Augustine wasn’t questionning papal authority; in fact, he appealed to it frequently.

Funny, Augustine told the Innocent I to back off during his indictments of Pelagius, whom Innocent I found to be "orthodox" and commanded Augustine to withdraw his indictments. Augustine told Innocent I in no uncertain terms to take a hike.

He was seperating the sins of a previous pope from the truth of the Catholic church.

LOL, thanks for the laugh.

258 posted on 10/16/2007 5:30:20 PM PDT by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: dangus
>> Every RC writer on this so called “prophecy” says that “Peter the Roman” is the Anti-Christ. <<

Really?

Every RC writer I've read, which is not a small number, do indeed say "Peter the Roman" is the Antichrist.

The anti-Christ would shepherd the flock through the end-times tribulations?

No, he shepherds the decieved into hell.

259 posted on 10/16/2007 5:33:22 PM PDT by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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To: Dominick
If memory serves me well, JPII put a lot of stock in the Malachy prophecy, and held that "Peter the Roman" would be the Antichrist who would lead the Roman church into apostasy.

Like I said it is probably a fraud.
That the prophecy is a fraud would not surprise me at all, particularly with Rome's long history of producing forgeries and fraudulent documents upon which it has based so many of it's claims.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12473a.htm#malachy

260 posted on 10/16/2007 6:00:43 PM PDT by Missey_Lucy_Goosey
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