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Two Cathedrals (Oakland Cathedral nears completion)
WITL ^ | November 10, 2007 | Rocco Palmo

Posted on 11/11/2007 3:50:19 PM PST by NYer

Oakland... the final frontier.

As the Cathedral of Christ the Light rises in the Bay Area see-city, one can be forgiven if "Star Trek" comes to mind.

Acclaimed for its "ambitious" design, the 1,500-seat mother church of the 500,000-member diocese -- price tag: $190 million -- will open its doors on 25 September 2008.
Father Paul Minnihan, provost of the cathedral, said the planning team selected the date to avoid conflicts with such weekend events as weddings and quincieneras. The group also considered an evening event, but decided an afternoon would allow for the possibility of a procession to the cathedral from another venue. “Safety was a concern,” he said.

He said the planning group also “seriously weighed the reality of the members of our diocese who work, but we placed our hope in their ability to take time away from work as we do when there are significant events in our lives.”

Two other dedication-related events have been planned.

On Sunday, Sept. 14 at 2 p.m. there will be a ceremony opening the cornerstone of St. Francis de Sales Church, which was set at 21st Street and San Pablo Avenue in Oakland on Sept. 13, 1891. The church became the first cathedral of the Oakland Diocese when it was established in 1962.

The 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake severely damaged the cathedral and it had to be torn down. The new cathedral at the corner of Grand Avenue and Harrison Street is its replacement.

On Sunday Nov. 2, the feast of All Souls, the mausoleum underneath the new cathedral will be dedicated at 2 p.m. At that time, the remains of Oakland’s first bishop, Floyd Begin, will be re-interred. He is currently buried at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery in Hayward.
...in related news, in the hometown of the Cardinal of the South, work's even further along on Houston's $61 million Co-Cathedral of the Sacred Heart, with dedication slated to take place next 2 April.
Built to provide a suitable hub for the South's largest local church, odds are that consecration duties for the 2,000-seater will likely fall to the project's visionary: the first archbishop of Texas' mother diocese, Joseph Fiorenza.

As a priest of Galveston-Houston in the '60s, Fiorenza served eight years as administrator of the new cathedral's nearby predecessor. With his successor's blessing, the retired prelate has kept principal oversight of the building effort since stepping down last year.

PHOTO 1:
John Blaustein/Oakland Catholic Voice
PHOTO 2: Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Prayer; Worship
KEYWORDS: architecture; cathedral; oakland
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To: Quix

That’s a very good point.

I think a building can look like a spaceport and still be inspirational :-). I even think the Taj Mahony is cool (but don’t tell anyone I said so.)


21 posted on 11/12/2007 7:21:58 AM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: Tax-chick

I agree, on all points.

Thx.


22 posted on 11/12/2007 8:40:09 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Tax-chick

Thanks for your kind words.

In a world racing toward hell in a hand basket . . . with the dark getting darker and the Light getting Lighter . . .

along with an increasing abundance of false angels of ‘light’

I say . . . let there be more edifices

THAT LIFT US SOARING IN OUR SPIRITS UP TO GOD

in as many authentic ways as possible.

This edifice is not finished.

It is an RC edifice with some features that gritch my spirit.

YET—IT’S SOARING LIGHT QUALITIES HAVE LIFTED MY SPIRIT UP TO GOD MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY.

Well done, I’d say.


23 posted on 11/12/2007 8:43:57 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: livius; CitizenM

God = Creation (Beauty, Truth, Order)

the enemy = Destruction (Chaos, Ugliness, Lies)

It’s really quite simple.


24 posted on 11/12/2007 8:46:04 AM PST by nanetteclaret ("I will sing praise to my God while I have my being." Psalm 104:33b)
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To: livius
there has been a positive rush in some quarters to get rid of anything from the past.

Certainly true in my parish -- the wreckovation of the lower church was complete just two weeks before the MP came out. Now, of course, they're working on the upper church, so Sunday Masses are in the lower church -- from which they removed the pews and replaced them with those auditorium-style chairs (some with movable kneelers in the back). So they had to fill in for Sunday Mass with gray metal folding chairs. To be reassuring, they told people they don't have to kneel! :(

25 posted on 11/12/2007 8:50:51 AM PST by maryz
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To: Quix

I’m sure the architect would be pleased to know that his building is such a blessing to you.

I’m more of a “cathedral of the outdoors” person, myself. Even listening to the trees while I watch my boys on the playground lifts my spirits.

With buildings, I tend to be thinking about how much it costs to air condition, and wondering how they clean it. The Cathedral in Tulsa had a Gothic-revival high altar, with ornate spires about 30 feet high, and I couldn’t stop thinking about spiders when I was in there.


26 posted on 11/12/2007 8:56:04 AM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: Quix
It is an RC edifice with some features that gritch my spirit.

You shouldn't let that bother you. You'll always be in a gritch, if you can't just accept that people believe different things ... just as people have different tastes in language, music, and architecture.

27 posted on 11/12/2007 8:57:41 AM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: maryz

Yes, this “you don’t have to kneel” thing is a big part of the Spirit of VatII liturgics. What really enrages me is when they say the Orthodox don’t kneel. The Orthodox do indeed kneel at certain points in the liturgy (in fact, they do more than kneel - they press their foreheads to the floor). What the Orthodox DON’T do, however, is sit.

By contast, sitting is really mostly what Vatican II liturgical practice prescribes. And then occasionally standing defiantly to show God that He’s no better than you are and you’re not impressed by Transubstantiation.


28 posted on 11/12/2007 9:00:52 AM PST by livius
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To: Salvation

I hope you’re right. And if Benedict is doing that, I wish he’d hurry up. We’re rapidly sliding back into paganism, even atheism. It’s appalling. But it just infuriates me to see so much money wasted on ugly buildings that depress the faithful. It’s like it’s intentional.


29 posted on 11/12/2007 9:10:49 AM PST by Argus
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To: Tax-chick

Agree about the outdoors.

I don’t go looking for the gritch differences and lay them aside when the arise in such situations.

CHRIST CRUCIFIED AND RISEN AND COMING AGAIN

certainly the PRIORITY.

BLESS YOU AND YOURS.


30 posted on 11/12/2007 9:19:29 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

And the same back atcha! I’ll pray for you while I’m getting my baby to bed, and then running. You’ve seemed rather down, lately.


31 posted on 11/12/2007 9:21:13 AM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: Tax-chick

Have been down lately.

Thanks tons for the prayers am now better.

Since last Monday evening, cleaning up my things at the end of class . . .

have been sicker than I’ve been in years and years.

Praise God for His mercies and the loving prayers of folks like you. Am now much better.

God’s richest abundance in all He would bless you most with to you and yours.

Thanks big.


32 posted on 11/12/2007 7:43:31 PM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Praise God that you are feeling better! It’s been a difficult fall for many, I think.


33 posted on 11/13/2007 4:17:12 AM PST by Tax-chick ("How inscrutable are His judgments and how unsearchable His ways!")
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To: Tax-chick

Yes, PTL.

Challenging times, it seems.

Thx.


34 posted on 11/13/2007 7:59:25 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: NYer

So for 1/3 the price of the Oakland monstrosity, Houston is getting a Cathedral that actually looks like a Church.

Confirming once again that traditional construction is less expensive than modernist architecture.


35 posted on 11/13/2007 9:12:18 AM PST by Andrew Byler
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