Posted on 11/19/2007 9:57:14 AM PST by topcat54
Wait a second (literally). Didn‘t you say earlier, "Observing the times, it is soon"?
What signs are you observing that it could be another 100 years away?
Could be a 1000 or 10,000 years?
I hear uber-dispie Jack Van Impe has a new date of 2012 based on the supposed end of the Incan calendar. One might legitimately wonder what "sign" that fits into?
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
"This book [The Final Act] is a relevant reminder for all believers to be ready for the soon return of Jesus Christ." -- Greg Laurie
"Soon" seems to be a throw-away word in that sentence.
I hear uber-dispie Jack Van Impe has a new date of 2012 based on the supposed end of the Incan calendar.
Maybe Jack's decided the BoM makes sense after all, which would mean the Incan calendar is really "Biblical," in a manner of speaking, since the Incans were really Israelites ... you get the picture.
The “Christian” attitude exhibited by non-dispensationalists on these threads is so underwhelming.
As is the use of straw men like Van Impe to prove points.
Thank you for your correction. I meant "immanent".
How is it a straw man? Van Impe’s a real dispensationalist with impeccable credentials among the faithful. He’s merely reading the signs of the times just as he has been taught to do by all the faithful dispensationalist fathers and coming up with a date. No other dispensationalist is really in a position to say he’s wrong, at least not until January 2013.
It worked for Hal Lindsey and Chuck Smith. And they are both out there still selling their trinkets to the masses.
That’s not a straw man. They use the same interpretive principles to arrive as their conclusions as you do. No?
Are you sure you're not referring to the Mayan calendar which says the world ends on 12-21-2012?
On June 25th, 2008 at 12:00 AM. That’s a problem.
Shavuot on June 9th, 2008 would be a better date.
The “Christian” attitude exhibited by non-dispensationalists on these threads is so underwhelming.
Kind of a one sided assessment, eh?
As is the use of straw men like Van Impe to prove points.
Van Impe is "low hanging fruit". In what way is he a straw man?
Or June 15th ,2008 depending how you reckon.shalom b'shem Yah'shua
Jack answers your question on YouTube. Doesn't mention the Mayans, only the Incas and Aztecs. Jack's offers a titillating response, just enough to get the juices of the faithful flowing.
Could it be? We report, you decide.
Better date for what and why?
Then Jack needs to do a little more research. The calendar in question is the Mayan calendar. Keep this in mind when deciding whether to take anything he says seriously.
Maybe they’ll find the Mayan calendar that starts in 2013. The stones are only so big.
Keep this in mind when deciding whether to take anything he says seriously.
Oh, don't worry. I doubt topcat takes JvI seriously as anything but a bad example.
***The “Christian” attitude exhibited by non-dispensationalists on these threads is so underwhelming.
As is the use of straw men like Van Impe to prove points.***
Did I miss where he was declared a heretic by Dispensationalists? I’m sorry that he is an obvious embarrassment to Dispensationalists.
JVI has nice hair.
I would call him a heretic, and I’m a dispensationalist.
Not a one-sided assessment. I have experienced nothing but the most hateful vitriol from non-dispensationalists on these threads as to rightfully put the quotations around “Christian.” It isn’t Christian. It is demonic. Even if we have missed it on our eschatology, which I do not believe we have, it is not an excuse for the level of rhetoric exhibited on these threads. I can only compare it to the CREVO threads, and frankly, I think some of the lost folks on those threads are more civil than some of the folks who no matter what you say want to demonize you on these threads.
As to Van Impe, he is not low hanging fruit any more than Charles Taze Russell would be. Van Impe has stepped well beyond where he should have scripturally and most well-informed dispensationalists would tell you that. Of course, that matters not to this crowd. But even Rapture Ready lists him as a bad apple.
http://raptureready.com/who/rap41.html
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