Chuck Smith’s Prophetic Pronouncements Under the Microscope

American Vision ^ | 11/19/2007 | Gary DeMar

[Lee N. Field]

I have experienced nothing but the most hateful vitriol from non-dispensationalists

And dispensationalists in recent threads are not guilty of same?

[Blogger]

I haven’t followed the recent threads, so I couldn’t say. But by the third post on this thread, nastiness had already started. The thread itself, judging from whom it was posted, was posted for the very reason of mocking dispensationalists. As such, I have chosen to say “no thanks” to the majority of such threads recently.

[Uri’el-2012]

I haven’t followed the recent threads, so I couldn’t say. But by the third post on this thread, nastiness had already started. The thread itself, judging from whom it was posted, was posted for the very reason of mocking dispensationalists. As such, I have chosen to say “no thanks” to the majority of such threads recently.

Join me in prayer that the preterists discover and acquire the lovingkindness of Yah'shua

[Lee N. Field]

But by the third post on this thread, nastiness had already started.

Probably because the current thread is following hard on the heels of this one. 1400 posts and climbing.

[irishtenor]

I am all the time offering burnt sacrifices of chicken and ribs to the family on my gas BBQ. Does that count?

[Alex Murphy]

I am all the time offering burnt sacrifices of chicken and ribs to the family on my gas BBQ. Does that count?

A gas BBQ? You heathen!

[Alex Murphy]

But by the third post on this thread, nastiness had already started.

That third post would be mine. Please ping me if you're going to talk about me.

The thread itself, judging from whom it was posted, was posted for the very reason of mocking dispensationalists. As such, I have chosen to say “no thanks” to the majority of such threads recently.

And ping topcat54 when you talk about him, too.

[HarleyD]

lol, can we all say in unison, “ker-ching ker-ching”, let the money roll on in

And we can all say "Amen" to that. People who make such statement and then prove to be wrong used to be stoned. Now they're simply allowed to re-edit their material and people continue to buy.

[irishtenor]

I would repent, but it makes the job so much easier :>) Just think how much more efficient the Hebrews would have been if THEY had gas!

[Blogger]

Ping. Happy?

[topcat54]

Join me in prayer that the preterists discover and acquire the lovingkindness of Yah'shua

"The dispensationalist stood and prayed thus with himself, 'God, I thank You that I am not like other men--extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this preterist. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess, and I know that you are coming back real soon now to rebuild the temple and offer sacrifices once again.'"

Amen.

[topcat54]

It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't drop in, make unsubstantiated remarks like this:

Soon isn’t an issue. It is soon. Observing the times, it is soon. Soon could be 100 years. Soon could be tomorrow. We should always be ready and watching.

On June 25th, 2008 at 12:00 AM. That’s a problem.

Shavuot on June 9th, 2008 would be a better date.

And then get all defensive when you ask for a little support for the comment from the Bible.

[1000 silverlings]

Well I like X, I see him around and he always brings a smile to my face. June 9, 2008 is Shavuot, the anniversary of the the day that God met the Israelis on the mountain and He gave them the Torah.

[Blogger]

I have given you biblical support before topcat. You weren't interested in hearing then and I won't bother with you now. Perhaps a dictionary will help though. soon 1. within a short period after this or that time, event, etc.: We shall know soon after he calls. 2. before long; in the near future; at an early date: Let's leave soon. 3. promptly or quickly: He came as soon as he could. 4. readily or willingly: I would as soon walk as ride. 5. early in a period of time; before the time specified is much advanced: soon at night; soon in the evening. 6. Obsolete. immediately; at once; forthwith. —Idioms 7. sooner or later, eventually: Sooner or later his luck will run out. 8. would sooner, to prefer to: I would sooner not go to their party. Compare rather (def. 8). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: bef. 900; ME; OE sōna; c. OHG sān, Goth suns]

[Campion]

Join me in prayer that the preterists discover and acquire the lovingkindness of Yah'shua

You think that erroneous eschatology cuts someone off from the "lovingkindness of Yah'shua"?

[Lee N. Field]

I have given you biblical support before topcat. You weren't interested in hearing then and I won't bother with you now.

Give a thought to this: advocates of other eschatological positions, to wit amilenarians, postmils, non-dispensationalist historic premils and orthodox preterists seem to be able to get along with each other just fine. Throw a consistent dispensationalist in the mix and the battle line gets drawn right there.

Why is that?

I have given you biblical support before topcat.

And we've given mountains of scripture right back to you-all (not saying you in particular, rather DPs in general). The assumptions we're using are different.

I weary of the discussion, but (as I've said elewhere) dispensationalism is in danger of getting the gospel wrong. It is important.

[Uri’el-2012]

Shavuot, the anniversary of the the day that God met the Israelis on the mountain and He gave them the Torah.

Shavuot in the Greek LXX is Pentecost, when the Ru'ach HaKodesh
breathed on the twelve and started the outreach to the Nations
with YHvH's salvation.

shalom b'shem Yah'shua

[Uri’el-2012]

You think that erroneous eschatology cuts someone off from the "lovingkindness of Yah'shua"?

No, I don't know.

But my discernment tells me that I don't see much chesed
demonstrated amongst that belief system.

[topcat54]

I have given you biblical support before topcat.

Sorry, I must have missed it. What I as looking for specifically from the Bible is what signs of the times leads you to conclude that Christ’s return may be 100 years or so in the future.

What I was referring to in the last post was the 2008 date, and the biblical support for such an idea.

Oh well, maybe I’m asking for too much.

[topcat54]

Well I like X, I see him around and he always brings a smile to my face. June 9, 2008 is Shavuot, the anniversary of the the day that God met the Israelis on the mountain and He gave them the Torah.

I like everyone here. Or, to quote Michael Corleone, "Nothing personal, strictly business."

"And the Word became flesh and tabernacle among us." The same Yahweh who spoke from Sinai has come down to dwell among His people. Jesus is the Torah of God. He is the perfect Temple and the new Israel wherein His people dwell with all the righteous from all ages. "You have come to Mount Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem."